I disagree 100%. You guys are spending/have spent way more than them recently and I don't see where you all have progressed further than them to be fair. The implication that you need to break your club/company's wage structure to pay astronomical wages that doesn't GUARANTEE you anything is short-sighted. You're saying that they can afford to pay 2 players 2 million dollars per month but how do you know that exactly? Utd's revenue far exceeds theirs in the commercial department and it's not like the two players mentioned are paid pittance, they're both being paid over 100k/month. Moreover, the hyper inflation in football is all about agents/super agents trying to get one over on clubs. Most people (even you) know that Pogba isn't worth the money he was bought for. Where does it end? In 10 years should agents and players demand a standard 100 million?
(The Times) Arsenal's Alexis Sánchez and Mesut Özil want to leave
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I disagree 100%. You guys are spending/have spent way more than them recently and I don't see where you all have progressed further than them to be fair. The implication that you need to break your club/company's wage structure to pay astronomical wages that doesn't GUARANTEE you anything is short-sighted. You're saying that they can afford to pay 2 players 2 million dollars per month but how do you know that exactly? Utd's revenue far exceeds theirs in the commercial department and it's not like the two players mentioned are paid pittance, they're both being paid over 100k/month. Moreover, the hyper inflation in football is all about agents/super agents trying to get one over on clubs. Most people (even you) know that Pogba isn't worth the money he was bought for. Where does it end? In 10 years should agents and players demand a standard 100 million?
Yeah...sorry about that
He'd prefer to sell Mourinho the Ebola virus than sell him a player that wants to leave.
Arsenal's revenue is the fifth highest of any club in world football, though. What's the alternative? Don't pay star players money that they could easily get elsewhere? If they lose Sanchez and Ozil to direct competitors (very likely, considering the wage demands), then they're in trouble.
Yeah, but look at the contract situations. He wouldn't have much of a choice -- some of these players aren't far away from walking out the door on a Bosman.
You're missing the point but carry on. As long as Wenger's the manager of Arsenal and Mourinho's the manager of Utd I can't see any players being transferred between them.
I'm not sure what the point is. You say that Arsenal shouldn't break their wage structure, which is fair enough. My point is that if they don't break it eventually, they're going to struggle to keep their best players and to attract new players. Especially when we're talking about foreign players who don't really have much allegiance to a specific club. Even then, the likes of Ashley Cole and Sol Campbell prove that tribalism only goes so far.
Sanchez and Ozil could easily earn 250k a week at top Premier League clubs. That's why Arsenal need to negotiate with them and find some sort of compromise if they want to keep them in the team.
As for selling to Mourinho -- it wouldn't be Wenger's decision if it came down to it. If one of those players wanted to go to United and United only -- and was within months of being able to leave on a free -- there wouldn't be anything Arsenal could do. Wenger would be overruled if the club failed to meet wage demands.
There are only 2 clubs who are capable of paying 250k/week and they both reside in Manchester. But as I said, as long a Wenger is at Arsenal he won't sell to Utd/Mourinho unless the player leaves on a free or a bosman. Negotiating a contract isn't DEMANDING 250k, it's wanting better than what you currently have and IMHO if any player doesn't want to negotiate from that astronomical wage, you can't hold ANY club at fault for saying no.
Cocks out. I was wondering who we could make rubbish next.
A bit of talk in the German media, that Bayern is aware that Özil's contract extension is stalling and are interested in him. No reliable sources though in my opinion.
Be a pointless signing for them. Probably wouldn't start.
Not in their current setup with Lewy and Müller plus wingers, no. But Ancelotti knows Özil and there's talk that Bayern won't use their option on Coman(which would be stupid).
how?
Ignore me. I thought they overlapped for a year at Real.
Don't see how Coman would affect Ozil situation.
If they don't sign Coman, and with the age of Ribery/Robben they'll most likely splash on a winger.
If(!) they don't sign Coman they could play Müller out wide again and thereby create room for a "10" in their setup. With Lewy, Müller and two wingers there is no "10". And IMHO Özil is best as a 10.
If Zlatan was to only stay a year, I'd be all for Ozil coming in.
Would personally prefer Sanchez and then play Miki as a CAM. Or perhaps even Isco, who I rate almost as highly as Ozil, and is considerably younger.
Wonder what's next for both of them, highly unlikely they both stay for the Europa League.
Not that Arsenal can afford to lose their best players right now, but if I was them I would want both of them out of the door. This contract saga had a massive impact on their season.
They would be glad to see the back of Ozil more than Sanchez, but still the guy just doesn't want to be there.
They would be glad to see the back of Ozil more than Sanchez, but still the guy just doesn't want to be there.
Juve could go for Sanchez to play on the left or right of their 4-2-3-1. Could take the place of either Cuadrado or Mandzukic. PSG could go for Özil as their #10, with Draxler and Di Maria flanking him. With Cavani up top I suspect Özil would rack up big numbers in terms of assists.
Not sure where Özil would go though. Perhaps PSG?
No champions league and no loyalty. Going to be interesting next couple of months watching what happens with these two.
Ozil is at the best club he can get in my opinion, he'd be well advised to sign the deal. Nothing player in my opinion.
Sanchez should go.
Sanchez should go.
Either there or maybe Turkey. He's been on record as saying he'd like to play there, although I'd imagine he could wait 3/4 years first. Will be interesting to see who they'll bring in as replacements. They'll need to make the sum greater than the parts.
I'd happily have either. Sanchez definitely and Ozil if we could afford it on top of the summer buisness. No chance of either though.
Özil should go to Bayern if he can
If they are paid enough they will stay for Europa, see us this season.
Hopefully they stay in the PL.
Why would Bayern want him? Serious question. He's barely manage to stand out in the worst Arsenal team of the past 20 years.
Bayern always like to buy the best German players and maybe they think they should improve their creativity a bit
Still think they can do better. Would be hilarious if they launched a double bid for Ozil/Sanchez & somehow managed to figure 5-1 into the fee
They don't really have his position to fill. Özil is not a winger and it's either Thiago or Müller in the 10 spot for Bayern. Both of which are better.
Would need a massive change in playing style/setup to include Özil.
I've said many times that I'd much rather sign Sanchez than Griezmann and I'll stick by that, Sanchez over the past two seasons has consistently been one of the top 5 players in the league so is proven and plays in a position that we need to improve in which is left sided forward.
Ouch. Without those 2 Arsenal is awful.
We should actually sign Ozil if we can get him on a knock down fee
Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but they did well together at Madrid.