(The Times) Arsenal's Alexis Sánchez and Mesut Özil want to leave

What makes people think that Wenger would be selling his best players to Mourinho!
 
I'm sure PSG will try to acquire Alexis Sanchez next summer :smirk:

And Arsenal would prefer to sell his player to PSG for obvious reasons.

It just makes so much sense. Why not go for Ozil too? It's clear the heirarchy at PSG currently don't see Pastore as good enough to start consistently in the AM position.

Just take both Ozil and Sanchez and play them alongside Di Maria, behind Cavani and ahead of Krychowiak-Verrati. Pastore, Lucas Moura and Ben Arfa as back-up.

Do it and get them out of Arsenal!
 
It just makes so much sense. Why not go for Ozil too? It's clear the heirarchy at PSG currently don't see Pastore as good enough to start consistently in the AM position.

Just take both Ozil and Sanchez and play them alongside Di Maria, behind Cavani and ahead of Krychowiak-Verrati. Pastore, Lucas Moura and Ben Arfa as back-up.

Do it and get them out of Arsenal!

And De Bruyne, Aguero and Silva too.
 
They're a bit weird.

Mathieu Debuchy 2018
Kieran Gibbs 2018
Per Mertesacker (captain) 2017
Alexis Sánchez 2018
Mesut Özil 2018
Olivier Giroud 2018
David Ospina 2018
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain 2018
Nacho Monreal 2018
Santi Cazorla 2017
Yaya Sanogo 2018
Carl Jenkinson 2018
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Jack Wilshere 2018
Joel Campbell 2018

Arsenal seem to do this a lot - on the face of it they're a well run club in terms of the profits they make but when it comes to contract renewals for key players, they often leave it late which sometimes ends up with their better players leaving for modest fees. I appreciate they have a strict wage structure but so do their neighbours yet Spurs are far better at tying down their best players on long-term contracts, which means if someone does come calling then they have to pay top whack. In today's market Ozil and Sanchez are £50-£60 million players - possibly more - but if Arsenal let this situation drag on for too long and play hardball too much during the contract negotiations then they could end up leaving for half that.
 
:lol: Oh do let them go on...it's been a funny 3 pages.
Being hypothetical is one thing, but nearly every thread becomes wildly imaginative and we set ourselves for some serious disappointment
 
What makes people think that Wenger would be selling his best players to Mourinho!

He really didnt wanna sell RVP to us either but the player pushed and the money men thought it was a better deal to sell him.Jose hates Wenger and didnt want to sell Cech to him eiher but that still happened.

If Ozil/Sanchez want to move...its happening. This is is the last big contract for both of them too, unless they move to china etc.
 
I'm sure PSG will try to acquire Alexis Sanchez next summer :smirk:

And Arsenal would prefer to sell his player to PSG for obvious reasons.
We'll take ozil then.

On of the few players I was genuinely muppety for at one point.
 
He really didnt wanna sell RVP to us either but the player pushed and the money men thought it was a better deal to sell him.Jose hates Wenger and didnt want to sell Cech to him eiher but that still happened.

If Ozil/Sanchez want to move...its happening. This is is the last big contract for both of them too, unless they move to china etc.

You do realise United were way stronger then than they are now. Rejecting Utd that year was basically rejecting a definite PL title.
Would you say that about us right now? Arsenal are more stable than us, and arguably in a better position than us to win the PL. Wenger may love money but I'm pretty sure he'd offer them those contracts or sell them abroad than sell them to any PL side
 
He really didnt wanna sell RVP to us either but the player pushed and the money men thought it was a better deal to sell him.Jose hates Wenger and didnt want to sell Cech to him eiher but that still happened.

If Ozil/Sanchez want to move...its happening. This is is the last big contract for both of them too, unless they move to china etc.
The reason is that their stadium debt was a lot bigger back then. Arsenal have turned the corner and their big players won't move.
 
I could see Bayern coming for Sanchez since they are in need of world class wingers and possibly PSG for Ozil. Arsenal will probably pay them anyway, at least it's what they should do, those two are carrying arsenal on their own at times and their demands aren't unreasonable in the context of the recent transfer and wages inflation.
 
Arsenal should just cough up the 250k. They aren't good enough or rich enough to attract players of either Ozil's or Sanchez's quality, and certainly won't get their hands on another if these two leave. Arsenal is about to begin to look like the real deal, and letting those two go at the same time would amount to giving up the quest to be one of the big boys in the PL.

Surreal to see people claim Ozil failed at Real.
 
It just makes so much sense. Why not go for Ozil too? It's clear the heirarchy at PSG currently don't see Pastore as good enough to start consistently in the AM position.

Just take both Ozil and Sanchez and play them alongside Di Maria, behind Cavani and ahead of Krychowiak-Verrati. Pastore, Lucas Moura and Ben Arfa as back-up.

Do it and get them out of Arsenal!

Unai Emery is a big fan of the players with high work-rate who are versatile.

I'm sure he would be happy to join our South-American players!

Pastore is a prone-injury player, not really reliable in the last 18 months.

We'll take ozil then.

On of the few players I was genuinely muppety for at one point.

Ozil was superb with Real Madrid under Mourinho but I'm not sure Arsenal is ready to sell both players at the same time
 
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Sanchez has always been one of my dream muppet signing. Even when at Barca. Love watching him play and think he's up there with Aguero/Hazard/De Bruyne as the best players in the league when at his best (pogba has to prove it still, though he's class.. Ibra can probably go in that rank though).
 
You do realise United were way stronger then than they are now. Rejecting Utd that year was basically rejecting a definite PL title.
Would you say that about us right now? Arsenal are more stable than us, and arguably in a better position than us to win the PL. Wenger may love money but I'm pretty sure he'd offer them those contracts or sell them abroad than sell them to any PL side

People said that about RVP, that Wenger would rather sell him abroad etc but if no other team matches the number we put forward and the player fancies it, there isn't much Wenger can do. And as for your first sentence, we just signed Paul Pogba this summer when Madrid wanted him! In fact if we were to go head to head for a player, id be surprised if Arsenal beat us to anyone.

The reason is that their stadium debt was a lot bigger back then. Arsenal have turned the corner and their big players won't move.

The players were npt moving because of the stadium, they left cos they wanted the Premiership. Sagna, Clichy, RVP, Gallas, etc all went on to win the league after they left. Ozil and Sanchez might be great players but in club terms they have actually not won much in Europe. 1 title each and they will be 28 before 2016 ends.
 
If he's as good as everyone says he is, he wouldn't be playing for Arsenal. He would still be at Barcelona

The reason he isn't still at Barcelona is because he isn't as good as Neymar, Messi or Suarez. Doesn't really mean anything.

He's easily good enough for us.
 
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Settle down, lads. Players like these don't join Europa League teams.
Yeah, United haven't signed anyone from CL teams since Fergie retired!

(Can't tell if you were being serious, I'm assuming not.)
 
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Settle down, lads. Players like these don't join Europa League teams.

But they signed for a team who can't get past round of 16 for nearly a decade. Arsenal fans and their fantasy thinking about CL being be all and end all is hilarious.
 
People said that about RVP, that Wenger would rather sell him abroad etc but if no other team matches the number we put forward and the player fancies it, there isn't much Wenger can do. And as for your first sentence, we just signed Paul Pogba this summer when Madrid wanted him! In fact if we were to go head to head for a player, id be surprised if Arsenal beat us to anyone.

Again, like you said, RVP and co left because they wanted to win P. Arsenal are arguably at an equal if not better state than us right now. We would beat Wenger in a bidding war- Yes; but that does not mean we would be able to buy their players so easily. Hell, we haven't even been linked with those 2- not even by the Sun. And who would the 2 replace! Mata is becoming Mou's favourite. Rash and martial will be played on the flanks and we already have Mkhi to play there as well. That is not equivalent to saying that they aren't players who aren't good enough for us, but there are times managers stick with inferior players because it suits their plans better
 
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Settle down, lads. Players like these don't join Europa League teams.
We just signed a striker who scored 50 goals in a season, the world's most expensive player (and one of the best centre mids around) and the Bundesliga player of the year? What are you on about mate?
 
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Settle down, lads. Players like these don't join Europa League teams.
Yes, they would much rather go to Arsenal. The pioneering team of the last 16 and the anywhere but 1st league finish, with no european history, the country's worst fans and a loser in charge.

Seriously, why would any top player join them, it's the same thing every year.
 
We just signed a striker who scored 50 goals in a season, the world's most expensive player (and one of the best centre mids around) and the Bundesliga player of the year? What are you on about mate?
All three of those have one important thing in common in their agent which neither Sanchez not Ozil share with them.

In any case, I feel Ozil will extend for sure and may probably get the number 10 shirt aswell next season which he deserves. As for sanchez, If he starts playing well in that CF and wants to be a CF which I think is the case then he also will have to extend just because of lacy of options as no other big team would play him as CF. If incase he is ready to move back to wings them he might have few options in PSG, Juve (if dybala leaves) and maybe Bayern. If it comes to that then arsenal would rather try to sell him to those then Man Utd which sanchez may oblige especially Juve/Bayern. Personally i don't think it will come to that. He will extend aswell
 
Sanchez is a fantastic player. Almost perfectly suited to modern football with his tireless work rate. Would happily give him the no.10 or no.7 shirt. Alas, I don't think there's any chance of us signing him.

I think we need to turn our attentions to either Griezmann or Dybala. I used to think Dybala was grossly over rated, and I'm typically skeptical of players coming from Serie A; but I've come around to the argument that he is simply fantastic.
 
I'd prefer Ozil to Sanchez. Sanchez seems like the type to do a Rooney and tall right off a cliff.
 
I find it hard to grasp just how greedy some people are. I know that the money in football is mental these days, however I just cannot fathom how two of the best players in the world in their position, on mega money already, playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world, living in one of the best cities in the world, adored by their fans, can have the absolute nerve to ask for more money. Especially considering the implications if the club refuse; ie leaving to a rival ream (sanchez please). Are these people human? Ozil only looks like an alien, I think deep down he does have some human genes in him somewhere. Why cant these guys just be happy that they are in the top 1% of earners in the world, and earn more money per week than some fairly large companies? WHYWHYWHY? Why is greed so prevalent in football? WHY
 
I find it hard to grasp just how greedy some people are. I know that the money in football is mental these days, however I just cannot fathom how two of the best players in the world in their position, on mega money already, playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world, living in one of the best cities in the world, adored by their fans, can have the absolute nerve to ask for more money. Especially considering the implications if the club refuse; ie leaving to a rival ream (sanchez please). Are these people human? Ozil only looks like an alien, I think deep down he does have some human genes in him somewhere. Why cant these guys just be happy that they are in the top 1% of earners in the world, and earn more money per week than some fairly large companies? WHYWHYWHY? Why is greed so prevalent in football? WHY

They are currently underpaid for their skill set in their profession. If any of us were underpaid compared to similarly talented and hardworking colleagues in the same or another company we'd be looking for parity, or looking to leave.

Footballers are no different. Why would they want to live the rest of their lives on £25m when they could have £35m. Why would they want their children to inherit £25m when they could pass down to them £35m? Why would they want to work at a company who only values their contributions at 70% of their market value when several other companies would be happy to pay them their worth?
 
They have to break their wage structure eventually.

Where does it end though? How do you sustain those kinds of wages for a club like Arsenal who a PLC and doesn't depend on a billionaire owner to fund it? 250k/week for 2 players is 2 million per month. Does that guarantee the club anything other than a high wage bill?
 
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Where does it end though? How do you sustain those kinds of wages for a club like Arsenal who a PLC and doesn't depend on a billionaire owner to fund it? 250k/week for 2 players is 4 million per month. Does that guarantee the club anything other than a high wage bill?
It's just the way of the modern game. If they don't do it, they'll regress as a club (constantly losing their best players), and become more like Liverpool of the last decade or so. Arsenal is one of the most profitable clubs in world football (they have enormous revenue). They can afford to do this if they want. I respect them for having kept their wage structure for so long, but with the hyper inflation in football (and especially in England), it just isn't sustainable.
 
I find it hard to grasp just how greedy some people are. I know that the money in football is mental these days, however I just cannot fathom how two of the best players in the world in their position, on mega money already, playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world, living in one of the best cities in the world, adored by their fans, can have the absolute nerve to ask for more money. Especially considering the implications if the club refuse; ie leaving to a rival ream (sanchez please). Are these people human? Ozil only looks like an alien, I think deep down he does have some human genes in him somewhere. Why cant these guys just be happy that they are in the top 1% of earners in the world, and earn more money per week than some fairly large companies? WHYWHYWHY? Why is greed so prevalent in football? WHY
Because footballers are human and like other humans, want more than what they have especially when people of their ability level are earning more elsewhere?
 
Where does it end though? How do you sustain those kinds of wages for a club like Arsenal who a PLC and doesn't depend on a billionaire owner to fund it? 250k/week for 2 players is 4 million per month. Does that guarantee the club anything other than a high wage bill?

2 mill right?