RVP won us a league title. I'd happily pay big wages for another player who does that.
(The Times) Arsenal's Alexis Sánchez and Mesut Özil want to leave
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RVP won us a league title. I'd happily pay big wages for another player who does that.
RVP was a great deal.
Their revenue this year will top £400m, they can pay it.
Wouldn't want them to be honest, think they've found their level at Arsenal.
There's a reason Barca and Real didn't hang on to them or haven't missed them since.
There's a reason Barca and Real didn't hang on to them or haven't missed them since.
Sorry, but they would both improve us massively.
Barca had Messi and Neymar already and the same window they let Sanchez go they bought Suarez.
Real had Ronaldo/Benzema/Di Maria and bought Bale the same window Ozil was let go.
If Sanchez leaves he's nailed on to go to PSG. Quote me on it.
They love their South Americans and need a right winger to complete the Di Maria-Cavani-? trio.
They got Jesé in the summer but it's clear that they're more ambitious in terms of their attack. They also prefer to use Lucas Moura as an impact sub.
They love their South Americans and need a right winger to complete the Di Maria-Cavani-? trio.
They got Jesé in the summer but it's clear that they're more ambitious in terms of their attack. They also prefer to use Lucas Moura as an impact sub.
I don't think so, they actually seem like ambitious players with great attitudes. They seem like the type of players that want to play at the top level and in the top leagues. They've never fussed about with transfer rumours or anything until now. I think this being (potentially) Wenger's last season has a big deal to do with this. What's the incentive to stay without Wenger?
Not forgetting sponsorships were they get freebies galore and they get paid to wear them too.The amount of money in football these days. £250,000-a-week. I'll never get my head around why a ball game can generate so much money, that some of the players can earn that in a fecking week. £250,000-a-year is a great salery, but that's what they get in a week, after 7 days.
Phil Jones and Ashley Young must be laughing this week and next, don't have to do feck all and get paid £90k for each week.
Gents, we've been through this before - why would top players want to sign for non-CL clubs?
It just won't happen.
It just won't happen.
white text? ADM, Falcao, Pogba, Ibra & Mkhity ring a bell?
They win the lottery once a week, lol. It's a joke to be honest... but good on them. I wouldn't complainThe amount of money in football these days. £250,000-a-week. I'll never get my head around why a ball game can generate so much money, that some of the players can earn that in a fecking week. £250,000-a-year is a great salery, but that's what they get in a week, after 7 days.
ADM didn't want to be there and everyone knows how that turned out. Falcao was cooked. Ibra is a legend, no arguments there, though he is on his last legs. Mkhy has had one elite season, let's see if he can replicate that first before putting him up there with legends like Ibra. Pogba is being paid how much mulah? Though he does count.
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On a serious note - Arsenal spends about 55% of their revenue on personnel (not including the transfer amortization), we spend a little more than 45% (which is astonishing, especially considering how much we pay some average players). And they don't have that much cash on them, despite the common belief that Wenger sits on the war chest and refuses to spend it. Even comparing with Chelsea and dippers, they are stagnating financially, with the main reason of their revenue growth (6% in 2016, comparing to our 30%, Woodward really is a genius) being their high place in the league and TV money (from the league and CL) - others do better in commerce and match-day revenue (not in the final numbers, Arsenal earn most in the league atm, but in the % of growth, Arsenal can't really push their prices up, they only did it 3 times in the last 12 years and it was to adjust to the inflation rates)
So it will be interesting to see what will happen here. If they'll feck up their salary system (which they should, those two are vital for them), they'll be in a bad place.
So it will be interesting to see what will happen here. If they'll feck up their salary system (which they should, those two are vital for them), they'll be in a bad place.
Have they improved Arsenal massively? They still haven't won the league since they've been there and came second last year to Leicester, and at a time when we are in meltdown. It's been the same old story in the CL when they meet the big boys. It's the same with Rooney for me, a player who earns £250,000 a week should be the best of the worst even in defeat.
Personally, I've become wary of signing "nearly" world class players who demand big money because this really hasn't worked out well for us over the last few years. I was glad to see the back of Di Maria, and the opposing voices seem to have gone very quiet a year later.
I also think there's other areas in the team that we'd be able to pay someone £250,000 a week to play in, central defence for instance.
To me we are at the moment a slightly crapper version of Arsenal, a team that lacks leaders and players who don't fold when we aren't playing well. I don't see either Ozil or Sanchez as a remedy to this.
It's also the case for me that there's not much I enjoy about United at the minute, but Rashford really is a beacon of light and I'd be unhappy at signing another "not quite galactico" at the expense of his opportunities.
Revenue growth was very impressive then lower the last year because major sponsorship deals were in place. Arsenal need to improve in commercial revenue but the idea that the club is "stagnating financially" is totally off base when you look at the big picture.
In any case, the new TV deal will increase revenue substantially for all clubs, including Arsenal. Paying Ozil and Sanchez may amount to something like 10M more per year compared to their current wages. The new TV deal will probably increase domestic broadcast revenue for Arsenal four times as much. There is really no question of the club being able to comfortably afford these wages. Whether we'll pay them, I have no clue.
Would certainly take Sanchez off their hands. Offer his agent 250,000, sit back and wait for it to unfold.
I think you make a fair point. I saw a Gazidis interview this summer where he was talking about why they don't always pay big on transfers as a big enough margin for improvement isn't necessarily there.
They could sell them and buy cheaper, younger players at lower wages and probably maintain 4th place rather than paying more in salary just to finish 2nd or 3rd.
Offer them as part of the deal sureI'm sure we can easily accommodate the both of them once Rooney and Schweinsteiger are off the wage bill. We could certainly do with a winger/ forward and a midfielder.
Yeah, it's been rumoured for a while Pep wants him at City. If he does get him I think City will build one of the most complete attacking forces in world football. His energy and speed would suit Pep's game down to the ground. It's a pretty scary thought having Aguero flanked by Sanchez and sterling/whomever.
I really hope we're in for him, he's long been one of my favourite players since his emergence at Udinese and I was unhappy when Barca got him over us. I think he'd be ideal on the right for us, with some combination of Ibra/rashford up front, Miki/Mata in behind and Martial/rashford on the left, but in this current climate I can see the massive appeal of playing for city.
No way Arsenal will pay them 250k
Diego Torres' book paints their relationship in a different light.
Mourinho had alot of love for Ozil, and the feeling was mutual but it grew into distrust as tactically it wasn't quite working out the way Mourinho wanted it to.
Another strange one is Sanchez wanted by City. Why would he want to play for Pep again? his freedom would be restricted.. he needs to be given freedom to play his natural game. Uber possession wouldn't suit him as much.
I think United would be a much better fit for him.
They're both magnificent players. Arsenal will pay I'm sure, they'd be totally mad to not.. What else are they going to do with their money. And also, arsenal are the top team in London - stable, great stadium.. They will pay them big for sure. I can't see either going to a "bigger" team in a comparable league, unless Madrid wanted ozil back.. And even then, I suspect a german would prefer london to Madrid..
BUT!! If they were to leave we have to be in the race. Apart from aguero, I can't think of better players..
BUT!! If they were to leave we have to be in the race. Apart from aguero, I can't think of better players..
It will set a precedent if Arsenal don't pay them that much, and that could deter the very top players from joining them as a result.
So I think Arsenal will pay. At least one of them anyway.
So I think Arsenal will pay. At least one of them anyway.
They're a bit weird.
Mathieu Debuchy 2018
Kieran Gibbs 2018
Per Mertesacker (captain) 2017
Alexis Sánchez 2018
Mesut Özil 2018
Olivier Giroud 2018
David Ospina 2018
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain 2018
Nacho Monreal 2018
Santi Cazorla 2017
Yaya Sanogo 2018
Carl Jenkinson 2018
Wojciech Szczęsny 2018
Jack Wilshere 2018
Joel Campbell 2018
Mathieu Debuchy 2018
Kieran Gibbs 2018
Per Mertesacker (captain) 2017
Alexis Sánchez 2018
Mesut Özil 2018
Olivier Giroud 2018
David Ospina 2018
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain 2018
Nacho Monreal 2018
Santi Cazorla 2017
Yaya Sanogo 2018
Carl Jenkinson 2018
Wojciech Szczęsny 2018
Jack Wilshere 2018
Joel Campbell 2018
Stagnating is a right term if you consider your financial growth comparing to the one of Chelsea or Liverpool or even Spurs. It's still a healthy situation but you don't progress much, you already have overpriced tickets and your commercial department doesn't work very well.
You can afford those wages for Sanchez and Özil, but I don't think that you can't afford the change in the wage structure that will follow this move. You already have a 55% wages/revenue balance and while it's a healthy, albeit high, proportion, any growth here will result in an unhealthy situation.
Listen I think they are both very good players and would love for them to play for us, but my point is that both were let go by Real and Barca for not even unreasonable money and have been replaced by better players (arguably individually, certainly collectively in terms of the respective teams). I can't see either Spanish team wanting to take them back, which with them off the table lessens the threat for Arsenal to lose them to. PSG? Neither strike me as a Di Maria-type, certainly not Sanchez who seems super-competitive. City? Maybe, but I'm not sure there's a place for either there as things stand. Chelsea and ourselves are in a bit of a mess; Sanchez has already rejected Liverpool (though I accept that Klopp changes everything); Atletico can't afford to go for them, and neither can Juve.
Bayern maybe as they need to replace Robben and Ribery at some stage, but I can't see them bettering Arsenal's wage offer. Point is, I can't see where they'd really go if Arsenal decide to play hard ball on wages. They'll settle for a lot less IMO.
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Sell rooney(300k) let go of bastian(150k), carrick(150k) retires-
I think we may as well try even without taking above into consideration as we loaded with cash BITCH!
I think we may as well try even without taking above into consideration as we loaded with cash BITCH!
They like to prolong at the same time, to pose then with 4,5 or 6 players on Twitter.
We won't be getting either of them, but I find it hard to believe that some of you wouldn't want them here. They're both quality players.
"Nearly Galactico". Who really cares anyway. Our best signing (so far) this season was a 30m center back not many people had heard of.
"Nearly Galactico"
. Who really cares anyway. Our best signing (so far) this season was a 30m center back not many people had heard of.Was annoyed we missed out on both of them, we should have signed Sanchez when we had the chance, then when he left Barca for pittance I can't believe we didn't go for him then either.
Lets be honest though, he's going nowhere. Ozil I can see moving on at some stage.
Lets be honest though, he's going nowhere. Ozil I can see moving on at some stage.
I'd rather have ozil than sanchez but realistically I can't see them letting him go without a huge fight. Not sure sanchez is needed here.
£50,000,001
With the new TV deal arsenal can easily afford it
The story going round at the time was that we were interested and he turned us down for Champion's League football and London.
Dony get why this thread is in transfer forum should be in football forum
To be honest, I don't think I'd have either of them.
Sanchez is not a "world class player" in my eyes. And he's turned down United on a number of occasions if I can recall. If he's as good as everyone says he is, he wouldn't be playing for Arsenal. He would still be at Barcelona.
Ozil is a top player, one of the best CAMs in the world... but I don't think he's a "United" type of player. I prefer Mata, he offers more defensively and can basically do the same job if he plays behind the striker.
If we were to sign a "Mata replacement", I'd rather it was someone like James Rodriguez. He strikes me as a United player.
Sanchez is not a "world class player" in my eyes. And he's turned down United on a number of occasions if I can recall. If he's as good as everyone says he is, he wouldn't be playing for Arsenal. He would still be at Barcelona.
Ozil is a top player, one of the best CAMs in the world... but I don't think he's a "United" type of player. I prefer Mata, he offers more defensively and can basically do the same job if he plays behind the striker.
If we were to sign a "Mata replacement", I'd rather it was someone like James Rodriguez. He strikes me as a United player.
I'm sure PSG will try to acquire Alexis Sanchez next summer
And Arsenal would prefer to sell his player to PSG for obvious reasons.
And Arsenal would prefer to sell his player to PSG for obvious reasons.