It had nothing to do with "chasing ticket sales". Spurs weren't allowed to play the home games at WHL due to UEFA regulations linked to the ongoing construction surrounding the stadium.
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It had nothing to do with "chasing ticket sales". Spurs weren't allowed to play the home games at WHL due to UEFA regulations linked to the ongoing construction surrounding the stadium.
Why don't you remind me ...
I've already said, earlier in this thread ....
Relative to United - and indeed to others of old perennial top 4 teams - Spurs have risen and/or closed the gap. And that's not to mention the off-pitch developments such as our new stadium, which some on here said would never be built.
Who really cares about a stadium though?
You might have closed the gap but the fact is United have still been more successful in their post Fergie blip than Spurs have during their rise.
Just check the trophy cabinets and bank balances of both clubs.
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Alderweireld - perhaps the best CB in the Prem. A big signing is not a big signing because big money is paid, it's a big signing if it fills a big hole in the first XI and the player proves to be a huge success. Just as Pogba does not become "top draw" just because you were to foolish enough to blow £90m + mega wages on him.
Poch walking to OT is your delusion. He's wouldn't abandon CL football at Spurs for Thursday night football at United ... far less swap his current squad for one that's not as good.
As for your equating a club like Spurs to S'hampton and Leicester City
So what were you saying for Thursday night football then?
In fairness to the Spurs hierarchy United aren't on their agenda but I'm sure becoming London's biggest club is their long term aim.
United are far too ahead of the rest to be caught and City's alleged 'creative accounting' make it difficult to catch them too but with Wenger's time nearly up at Arsenal and Chelsea's need for a new stadium then catching both teams is a long term realistic aim.
United are far too ahead of the rest to be caught and City's alleged 'creative accounting' make it difficult to catch them too but with Wenger's time nearly up at Arsenal and Chelsea's need for a new stadium then catching both teams is a long term realistic aim.
To be fair, the new stadium is a massive thing for the club. Mind you, it does little to help us right now.
Fair play to @GlastonSpur. Never one to hide away if things go awry for his team. They've been unlucky in Europe but they're still in a good place imo. It'll benefit them in the league for the rest of the season. It's gonna be a big advantage for them in race for top 4. I'd fancy them to finish ahead of United in the league.
We are trying to build the club up to become (hopefully) a properly big european club. We are on the right path but have a long way to go yet. The stadium will be a big step forward but without investment in the squad and results on the pitch then it will be for nothing. I admire the way we are doing it though as we do not have the riches of most of the other 'top tier' clubs.
Took Utd years to get used to playing in Europe>Premier league. It will be a good experience for a good young side.
When was the last time you won a trophy? Genuine question.
We won the FA Cup about 6 months ago
City won the League Cup in 2016
Chelsea won the PL and League Cup in 2015 (both with Mourinho)
Arse won the FA Cup in '14 and '15
Liverpool won the League Cup in 2014
When was yours?
Given your 'relative rise' above the 'old top 4', I'm thinking it must be quite recently and I'm just drawing a mental blank.
Its annoying as this gets trotted out a lot. I don't really think it is. You'll end up like Arsenal, with bugger all atmosphere. Sure you'll eventually have a great balance sheet and you'll flirt with the CL every year, but you'll be run like a business, never really splashing out on a VDV style signing that actually gave you a bit of quality. I don't see why teams can't build new stadiums in the style of old stadiums. This isn't a dig at Tottenham really, it's Levy, Gazidis and co.
Maybe you haven't looked at Spurs new stadium design, it's not an Emirates corporate bowl and will have the biggest single tier end in England.
It's also being built with safe standing in mind which could see 30,000 in one single tier stand.
By the way how is the atmosphere at OT these days?
As funny as Spurs going out is, they now have an another front to qualify for the CL again. It will interfere with their PL form though.
As much as I dislike them, they look likely to finish ahead of you again, which would be 3 times out of the last 4 seasons. Let that sink in for a minute.
Financially you'll be the biggest team in the PL for a long time, but that's based on past glories and football supporters being less fickle than other commodities. You're essentially in the same position as 1994 Liverpool or early 00s Barce. Which way you go depends on management. It seems United are simply too rich not to get back to the top granted but that hasn't kicked in yet.
It maybe a strategic aim and Arsenal may suffer when Wenger leaves but we're financially much stronger than them, as are Chelsea and you'd have to imagine that disparity will increase due to them building a stadium, which crippled Arsenal for a decade.
As much as I dislike them, they look likely to finish ahead of you again, which would be 3 times out of the last 4 seasons. Let that sink in for a minute.
Financially you'll be the biggest team in the PL for a long time, but that's based on past glories and football supporters being less fickle than other commodities. You're essentially in the same position as 1994 Liverpool or early 00s Barce. Which way you go depends on management. It seems United are simply too rich not to get back to the top granted but that hasn't kicked in yet.
It maybe a strategic aim and Arsenal may suffer when Wenger leaves but we're financially much stronger than them, as are Chelsea and you'd have to imagine that disparity will increase due to them building a stadium, which crippled Arsenal for a decade.
I have actually, it doesn't really look that different to me. Maybe your super one tier stand might help, we'll see.
Not bad considering we get over double your attendance every week.
It's not about how many fans are in it's about the atmosphere they create. You've already said that the atmosphere at Arsenal is terrible and they have 60,000 and in all honesty OT is also pretty much atmosphere less.
Arsenal are but once Spurs are in their new stadium that will add £100m to their turnover although the stadium needs to be paid for. I can't see Spurs looking to pay the debt off in total over the next decade. I imagine like United have done Spurs will be comfortable with having a £300m debt and making interest payments each year.
A lot will depend on if Wenger's replacement is capable of keeping Arsenal in the top 4 but thats certainly no given when you see how we've done since Fergie left.
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So building a bigger stadium doesnt mean anything yet you gloat about having a much bigger attendance than Spurs due to your much bigger stadium? Ehh....
Well yeah it does, you're not going to fill your stadium with 75,000 people who all go their to chant and cheer every second of the game and if your hardcore fans get dispersed over a larger area, the previously generated atmosphere dies.
Anyway, I'm not going to argue about who has the better atmosphere; I also never proclaimed ours was any better, you gave us a dig, I gave one back. I've been to loads of grounds all over the country that never live up to their famous "atmosphere" and many OT games that have been flat as a pancake. My point was, new, larger stadiums, tend to kill it and I think you should be wary of going down the route Arsenal did with their new stadium.
Not really the point I was making and was only in response to a jibe about our atmosphere.
I know I was just being bad :P
Every single Spurs fans for starters.
What I've already said, namely that Kane is not going to leave Spurs to play for United
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If we want him.
Original post corrected: you can want all you want, but wanting and getting are two different things.
Really not impressed by Spurs. They will definitely fall away. Easily the weakest squad and starting XI in the top 6.
Do you mean the top 5?
Nope, nice attempt at being clever though.
Average attack, decent defence. Don't think you have enough to be honest. You didn't improve your starting XI despite finishing third in a two horse race.
My point is despite United being in their poorest period of form sInce the inception of the PL it was kind of expected there would be a slump of sorts post Sir Alex. In comparison Spurs have closed the gap but what do they really have to show for it? An extra top four finish and a new stadium on the way? We have even added another FA Cup in such an indifferent spell. I'll settle for that. I could even argue the same for Arsenal.
United have dropped off the pace granted and Mourinho has some work to do but no one has taken the opportunity to grab United's place as the dominant force in England and for me that's great to see.
When Liverpool vanished United took control. Not one team yet as stepped up and we are getting stronger and stronger.
Are you sure? Seems like playing the potential EL ties at WHL was an option.
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...um-mauricio-pochettino-confirms-a3403976.html
Love the...
...by Pochettino. Could come back to haunt him.
Haha the old third in a two horse race made up of twenty runners, always good for a laugh that one.
By the way if you should fall behind Everton & Watford this weekend and go 9th will we change to be the weakest of the top 9?
I don't think their team is that bad, but they're not really suited to CL football. They play a high press and to do that you really need to be able to control the opposition on the break, and in Europe teams are much better at counter attacking than in the PL. We had similar problems last year.
Also, their striking options really are weak. I know Kane scores a lot but he is a truly awful footballer. He is laughably bad. It's baffling how he does score as often as he does but it's gone on too long to be a fluke. He defies the laws of logic...again though in Europe it's not so easy to mask. Their other strikers include some guy who seems to be legally banned from scoring goals.
Plus they seem to keep faffing around with their defence for European games, unless I'm just imagining it. Why would you do this?
Can't decide how they'll do in the league because it's still hard to tell how everyone else will do. IF United get their act together then Spurs might be in trouble. They might be anyway. TBH all of the teams at the top have had games where they've looked great and games where they've looked like a bunch of drunks. Except for United who've just demonstrated different kinds of incompetence from one game to the next, without ever eradicating the incompetence entirely. I wouldn't want to guess anything, but if I had to I'd say Spurs will be outside the top 4, with one of United, Liverpool or Arsenal (although Arsenal always seem to make it)
Also, their striking options really are weak. I know Kane scores a lot but he is a truly awful footballer. He is laughably bad. It's baffling how he does score as often as he does but it's gone on too long to be a fluke. He defies the laws of logic...again though in Europe it's not so easy to mask. Their other strikers include some guy who seems to be legally banned from scoring goals.
Plus they seem to keep faffing around with their defence for European games, unless I'm just imagining it. Why would you do this?
Can't decide how they'll do in the league because it's still hard to tell how everyone else will do. IF United get their act together then Spurs might be in trouble. They might be anyway. TBH all of the teams at the top have had games where they've looked great and games where they've looked like a bunch of drunks. Except for United who've just demonstrated different kinds of incompetence from one game to the next, without ever eradicating the incompetence entirely. I wouldn't want to guess anything, but if I had to I'd say Spurs will be outside the top 4, with one of United, Liverpool or Arsenal (although Arsenal always seem to make it)
As a Utd fan, last year is the perfect example of bad performances but reasonable results in not a recipe for success in the long term. You'll soon see the same to be true with your beloved Spuds.
Another Spurs fan who can't discuss Tottenham without referring to Manchester United.
Pot kettle
I actually think player for player Spurs have a stronger team than Liverpool. Liverpool have two excellent players (Coutinho & Mané) a couple of good ones, and a load of average ones. They have a fantastic coach who raises everyone's level, though.
When all of them are fit, Spurs actually have a real quality first XI with only a couple of weak spots.
I wasn't discussing Manchester United and if I was I wouldn't be comparing them to Tottenham. I'm not sure you understand that saying.
Wasn't directed at you personally more the nature of the thread.
And the comparison is mostly coming from posts by Spurs fans. You can't say anything about Spurs in this thread without United being brought up. Your response to a possible problem with atmosphere at your new stadium was to snidely ask about the atmosphere at Old Trafford. And people wonder why Spurs get a hard time on this forum.
It was just an observation, more about the reference to Arsenal than Spurs actually.
Unlucky in Europe? How do you come to that conclusion?
They've got exactly what they deserved in the UCL this season.
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