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The Spurs thread | 2016-2017 season | Serious thread - wummers/derailers will be threadbanned
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lol it's been 3 seasons of constant improvement. The players are responsible for the performances as much as anyone else. Why would United players put up with the last few seasons? Losing o e match isn't going to suddenly enduce a mad exodus lol.
I think if we win the EL the sensible point of view is that both sets of fans can be happy
Totally agree, I would also rather the thrill of the trophy chase rather than the start of the cycle that Arsenal now find themselves in.
We don't have the money to make 'serious signings' if you mean big name signings. One of the many reasons signing Sissoko for £30 million was such a disaster. Lets hope we get some of it back in the summer when we sell him.
, true.I don't mean big name signings, per se. For example, when I heard you lot were close to getting Isco, that worried me. Someone with some big game experience and a bit of star quality.
I don't mean big name signings, per se. For example, when I heard you lot were close to getting Isco, that worried me. Someone with some big game experience and a bit of star quality.
One thing I do agree with you on is that we lack 'big game experience' in the squad.
Of course, I have no fingernails after that last tie vs Celta and that was comfortable!
Have you not been paying attention to what Mourinho is doing?
You know what nevermind. This is clearly a wind up, managers often play players carrying knocks or bring them on from the bench. It's so commonplace I can't believe I'd have to explain it.
Some posts on here is hilarious, in a poll on this forum we weren't even favourites to finish in the top four... but somehow we bottle it to win the title makes absolutely no sence. I agree we need to win a trophy but it's only Poch's 3rd season and I'm happy.
For the last 3 seasons we hear that our chance has gone due to the "big teams" going to improve. It's not going to happen like that, the league has changed so much in the last 3 seasons.
For the last 3 seasons we hear that our chance has gone due to the "big teams" going to improve. It's not going to happen like that, the league has changed so much in the last 3 seasons.
Spurs are perennial bottlers. Everyone in the football world knows this. Spursy.
I agree with this, just because of one game where they probably had no chance of winning the title anyway, they wont go. But if it continues for a couple of more seasons they will.
But @GlastonSpur told us all that Spursy's future was bright and Utd were in the shite?
They are just that, however, they had a very slim chance of winning the title this year anyway and even with Chelsea losing to us, it still wasn't very likely, I don't think they bottled anything in this situation, but they are generally, bottlers.
So have United been bottlers for the last 4 seasons considering they are one of the biggest clubs in the world failing to compete for the domestic title?
Tottenham will be competitive as long as this core of players stays together. What they need to worry about is other clubs coming in with high wages on offer while they remain trophyless. I can see Walker moving on next year, but I believe they'd be able to find a capable replacement for him as good as he's been. It's players like Kane, Allo, Eriksen, Alderweireld, etc. that they'd be very hard pressed to find the quality to replace even with high transfer fees coming in.
If they don't win next year they face a very hard challenge in holding onto their prized possessions I would think.
If they don't win next year they face a very hard challenge in holding onto their prized possessions I would think.
If we had of been in first spot and lost it then we would have been bottlers.
2 trophies in 2 seasons with the potential to win a 3rd, more than you lot in the last 10 years already. We've been through 3 managers since SAF retired I wouldn't say we bottled anything, but rather we're in transition, and we're still winning trophies.
Hate those cnuts with a passion. Something highly repulsive about them. Was wishing they'd get relegated.. maybe next time.West Ham... A useless team that always fecks up the aspirations of others
We most certainly have been, also we've been managed by one total idiot and one delusional dutchman.
We bottled the biggest decision regarding the club in the last 20 years, who would succeed Fergie. It would always be a step down, but it didn't need to be a galactic nosedive of unparalled feckwittery like appointing Moyes was.
Still we have trophies these last seasons though, in seasons that is widely recognized as our worst in modern times.
It must be frustrating for Spurs fans, they have played some great football this season and no silverware to show for it. It's weird because cl football has been achieved again but ultimately they haven't won anything. It's been a average season at best for United but we are still winning things. I enjoyed winning the league cup, a potential European final against Ajax sounds good if we make it. It's not where we want to be but I enjoy that feeling of winning a cup. Football really is about winning trophies, last season was rubbish for United but I'll remember that FA cup run as well.
I think Spurs have an outstanding first 11 and a good manager. I just feel they haven't got the experienced player like kompany, Costa or Zlatan who can drag them over the line. They have a great young team but are missing that big game player, like a Cantona. A personality that younger players in the team can look up too. In that game right at the crunch moment of the season, someone that makes the difference when the team don't deserve the result. The Chelsea game in the FA cup would be an example. Before that corner when hazard scored, Spurs were dominating them. It was completely against the run of play. They found a way and made a set piece and error count, the scoreline was flattering Chelsea with the overall play in the second half.
I'm not saying that Alli or kane aren't brilliant, because they are but where is that player that steps up. Maybe an experienced player is the answer for next year, it's getting the right mix. They are not far off Spurs if they keep there best players. I just don't think they believe they can win big trophies at the crucial time of season. Arsenal are similar in another way, they could be 15 points ahead at Christmas under Wenger, we all know what's going to happen come March. It's happened so many years now, it's turned into a mentality issue. I think Spurs need a trophy, a league cup even. Just that taste of winning, it may happen next year. It will be a shame if they sell there best players in the summer, they need to keep building and there is no reason they won't win something significant. I think playing at Wembley all season will be difficult, it will be interesting.
I think Spurs have an outstanding first 11 and a good manager. I just feel they haven't got the experienced player like kompany, Costa or Zlatan who can drag them over the line. They have a great young team but are missing that big game player, like a Cantona. A personality that younger players in the team can look up too. In that game right at the crunch moment of the season, someone that makes the difference when the team don't deserve the result. The Chelsea game in the FA cup would be an example. Before that corner when hazard scored, Spurs were dominating them. It was completely against the run of play. They found a way and made a set piece and error count, the scoreline was flattering Chelsea with the overall play in the second half.
I'm not saying that Alli or kane aren't brilliant, because they are but where is that player that steps up. Maybe an experienced player is the answer for next year, it's getting the right mix. They are not far off Spurs if they keep there best players. I just don't think they believe they can win big trophies at the crucial time of season. Arsenal are similar in another way, they could be 15 points ahead at Christmas under Wenger, we all know what's going to happen come March. It's happened so many years now, it's turned into a mentality issue. I think Spurs need a trophy, a league cup even. Just that taste of winning, it may happen next year. It will be a shame if they sell there best players in the summer, they need to keep building and there is no reason they won't win something significant. I think playing at Wembley all season will be difficult, it will be interesting.
Spurs have done excellent in the PL this season, they can look back at a good season. Improvement in Europe is needed though.
They have still won multiple trophies, they haven't gotten to the business end of things and had their wheels fall off (yet).
Don't get me wrong we need to win a trophy but is as a team have only came through a decade or more of transition. We can't buy a trophy we need to do it in a smarter way.
It has been Chelsea's title to lose for a number of weeks. Spurs did well to get it back down to 4 points.
Chelsea had/have the easier run-in, and it's taking its toll. Spurs have pretty much guaranteed 2nd place now.
They could finish on 80+ points for the season. That's a sign of progression, from 3rd to 2nd.
They do need to win something next season, though. Otherwise they're just another Newcastle.
Chelsea had/have the easier run-in, and it's taking its toll. Spurs have pretty much guaranteed 2nd place now.
They could finish on 80+ points for the season. That's a sign of progression, from 3rd to 2nd.
They do need to win something next season, though. Otherwise they're just another Newcastle.
Either have we, we have never been in a winning position.
Yep. But we have high standards. You don't see the bottle job - it's Spursy to celebrate finishing above Arsenal. Utd fans crave the biggest prizes.
yep, for starters you need to stop buying bums for 35m and start buying winners, you have no winners, which is why they lose.
The thing is if Spurs had of won an FA cup or LC and finished 6th or so we would have been called a "cup team". When we compete for the title and fall short in a cup we're bottlers? Are united now a "cup team"? I'm not getting at anyone here it's just. The usual football shit talk.
Every team are going to buy failures, it's just ours are magnified more cause we can't just cut our loses and spend big again. What we need to do is keep our core and manager. None of Ali, Eriksen, Kane, Son etc have reached their peak.
Absolutely. If anything the rest of the top 6 have done a massive bottle job. On 34 games Liverpool would be the next closes at 66 points, 15 points away. Now that along with the rest of the top 6 is a bottle job.
I'm not celebrating finishing above Arsenal at all, I couldn't care less
I'm just happy to see us improve. You have high standards but that doesn't mean you deserve anything.
You're right, but unless you start winning things soonish you won't see their peaks, unless they're true Spurs lads at heart they're not staying if you don't start winning.
No we are not a "cup team", we are the most successfull side in English history going through an extremely rough patch which was also the cause of our success - having a unicum as a manager.
Any team in the world would struggle after a manager like SAF left. He was more than a manager, he was the very fabric of the club. As an example his last squad had no business winning the PL in his last season, it was through his pure force of will that by historical measure sub-par United team won the PL.
What should have been a very painful and hard transition we made into a total calamity and a giant mountain to climb by hiring the biggest idiot seen on the sidelines in the modern history of the game though.
That being said, our darkest period are behind us. Other teams have had since SAF left to establish their dominance in the PL, none have done so no matter how much money their sugardaddies have poured into the clubs.
With Moyes and LvG we've been so far down that the only way is up. What you've seen for the last few years is as bad as it will get for United.
Can the same be said about you when other clubs come calling for your stars with 2-3x wages being offered? Modern footballers go where the money is. There is no seperate set of rules that apply for Tottenham. Either you bust your wage structure and pay your talent accordingly to market standards set by us and the sugardaddy clubs, or else you lose them.
Why do you turn it on to United?
This season is another also ran for Spurs and top players won't continue without silverwear. It would have been better if you'd won a trophy and got that monkey off your back or gone on a really good Monaco style CL run.
What the feck are you talking about? I cannot believe I find myself defending Spurs, but how the feck can you call THIS a bottle job? They'd won something like 9 in their last 10, yet you can't fathom how their players would 'put up with this'? They shouldn't even be in the title race, yet even if they'd won their remaining games, it was still in Chelsea's hands. Plus we United fans are hardly fecking ones to talk.
Totally agree but in Poch's 3rd season with our resources I'm happy tbh. I want to see us as a club establish ourselves not just have a one off trophy. A continued period of success, that's not going to happen in the space of 2-3 years. When we get the new stadium and build and progress and are able to a draw to big players I can expect much more.
Arsenal fans were the ones celebrating finishing above Spurs actually mate. For 20 odd years. Is that 'Spursy' too?
Why do you turn it on to United?
This season is another also ran for Spurs and top players won't continue without silverwear. It would have been better if you'd won a trophy and got that monkey off your back or gone on a really good Monaco style CL run.
How am I "turning on United"? I'm giving you a comparison for debate lol.
I think that he's saying it really highlights how out of favour Sissoko is when he'd rather play a half fit Dembele than bring him on.
Complete and utter waste of money.
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