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I think Pedri and Reyna will never make it either. Pedri is just a BTEC Pedro and Reyna smells.
Again both should just move to Cardiff.
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Again both should just move to Cardiff.
I think martial won't make it either, will end up at a team like West ham or something, he's like a faster but slower version of berbatov without the goals.
Be willing to risk it to continue my march of trying to have a home grown team.
Dembele
Pedri. Reyna. Odegaard
Puiq. Guendouzi
Nuno Tavares. Rice. Bednarek. Tomiyasu
Kelleher
Honorable mentions: Ander Barrenetxea, Aaron Connolly, Tomas Tavares, Sinaly Diomonde, Andy Pelmard, Albert Sambi-Lokonga and Modibo Sagnan.Pedri. Reyna. Odegaard
Puiq. Guendouzi
Nuno Tavares. Rice. Bednarek. Tomiyasu
Kelleher
Am counting Bednarek as home grown but thats a bit dubious....
Can't disagree with that really
Looking shite at the momentJanuary transfers
Done Deal
Jeremie Frimpong (20/80): Celtic => Bayer Leverkusen
Rumour
Jose Gaya (25/91): Valencia => Barcelona
Done Deal
Jeremie Frimpong (20/80): Celtic => Bayer Leverkusen
Rumour
Jose Gaya (25/91): Valencia => Barcelona
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Fecking love the music and passion haha.
There is now a Soccer Manager text channel on the official caf Discord if anyone wants to discuss stuff on there. As you can see, there's engaging chat
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Who do I have to pay to get @CrackersJr relegated?
no body tell him.
I will take bribes to tank my team and relegate myself for the right price.
Visualisations
Cumulative Division 1 points
Cumulative Division 1 points
- Arsenal overtake City into third thanks to City's relegation.
- Forest has overtaken Villa into sixth. Both are certain to overtake Newcastle next season after their relegation.
- Darlington have overtaken Spurs into the top 10.
- Twelve teams have passed the 1000 point mark. Spurs is 11th on 1053 and Sunderland is 12th on 1046.
- 45 teams have contended in Division 1 since its inception, with Cardiff City being the latest.
- Manchester United have been top on cumulative points since Season 6.
- Arsenal become the third team to pass the 1500 goal mark.
- Eleven teams have passed the 1000 goal mark with Sunderland being the 11th passing 1000 goals this season.
- Forest has overtaken Newcastle into fifth, Aston Villa has overtaken Chelsea into seventh and Darlington has overtaken Spurs into ninth.
- Manchester United have been top on cumulative goals since Season 1, though Everton aim to overtake this next season.
- Everton had the longest streak of cumulative Top 4 finishes with 9 from Season 12 to Season 20 inclusive.
- 18 teams have finished in the Top 4, with Cardiff City being the latest in Season 21.
- Manchester United have been top/joint top on Top 4 finishes since Season 1.
- 27 teams have won at least one major honour. Middlesbrough being the latest side to do so this season.
- Manchester United have been top/joint top on major honours won since Season 8.
Race to 90 (III)
Name (Team): Player Name - Updated Rating (Start Rating)
@Big-Red and @RedSky sold their players, so they're off the list.
Name (Team): Player Name - Updated Rating (Start Rating)
- 2mufc0 (Sunderland): Benoit Badiashile - 87 (73)
- The Taurean (Nottingham Forest): Myron Boadu - 85 (76)
- green_smiley (Southend Utd): Mohammed Ihattaren - 85 (70)
- Litterbug (Blackburn): Victor Mollejo - 82 (70)
- Damien (Man Utd): Eddy Salcedo - 80 (73)
- harshad (Bristol City): Angel Gomes - 78 (75)
- infamous7 (Fulham): Tiago Dantas - 78 (73)
- christy87 (Chelsea): Luan Candido - 78 (70)
- Wino1 (Wolverhampton Wanderers): Jack Clarke - 77 (77)
- dutza 90 (Middlesbrough): Ki-Jana Hoever - 76 (73)
- BenitoSTARR (Cardiff): Erkan Eyibil - 73 (70)
@Big-Red and @RedSky sold their players, so they're off the list.
Who was my player? Gaetano?
Whats the status on R290 IV
I'm going through the 73 names now.
Yes.
This is a great timeline visual tbfVisualisations
Cumulative Division 1 points
Cumulative Division 1 goals
- Arsenal overtake City into third thanks to City's relegation.
- Forest has overtaken Villa into sixth. Both are certain to overtake Newcastle next season after their relegation.
- Darlington have overtaken Spurs into the top 10.
- Twelve teams have passed the 1000 point mark. Spurs is 11th on 1053 and Sunderland is 12th on 1046.
- 45 teams have contended in Division 1 since its inception, with Cardiff City being the latest.
- Manchester United have been top on cumulative points since Season 6.
Cumulative Division 1 Top 4 finishes
- Arsenal become the third team to pass the 1500 goal mark.
- Eleven teams have passed the 1000 goal mark with Sunderland being the 11th passing 1000 goals this season.
- Forest has overtaken Newcastle into fifth, Aston Villa has overtaken Chelsea into seventh and Darlington has overtaken Spurs into ninth.
- Manchester United have been top on cumulative goals since Season 1, though Everton aim to overtake this next season.
Cumulative major honours
- Everton had the longest streak of cumulative Top 4 finishes with 9 from Season 12 to Season 20 inclusive.
- 18 teams have finished in the Top 4, with Cardiff City being the latest in Season 21.
- Manchester United have been top/joint top on Top 4 finishes since Season 1.
- 27 teams have won at least one major honour. Middlesbrough being the latest side to do so this season.
- Manchester United have been top/joint top on major honours won since Season 8.
Race to 90 (IV)
Name (Team): Player Name - Updated Rating (Start Rating)
@Dom Gill sold his player already, so he's off the list.
Since Szos has been sold to Leipzig, Sucic has been playing a fair bit more. But I'll be stunned if anyone beats Wirtz to 90.
Name (Team): Player Name - Updated Rating (Start Rating)
- Gythio (Aston Villa): Florian Wirtz - 85 (77)
- LungiDevil (Leeds United): Nuno Mendes - 82 (78)
- Wino1 (Wolverhampton Wanderers): Gabriel Veron - 82 (76)
- spontaneus1 (Barnsley): Harvey Elliott - 82 (76)
- infamous (Fulham): Jamal Musiala - 82 (73)
- The Stain (Leyton Orient): Josko Gvardiol - 82 (73)
- Varun (Arsenal): Adil Aouchiche - 82 (73)
- RedSky (Hereford): Noni Madueke - 80 (76)
- LitterBug (Blackburn Rovers): Becir Omeragic - 79 (73)
- L M (West Ham United): Bartosz Bialek - 78 (78)
- Sepukku (Southampton): Cristian Olivera - 78 (78)
- CrackersJr (Newcastle United): Troy Parrott - 78 (77)
- Ravelation (Darlington): Luis Henrique - 77 (73)
- BenitoSTARR (Cardiff City): Joelson Fernandes - 76 (76)
- Dans (Bournemouth): Luke Matheson - 76 (76)
- dutza90 (Middlesbrough): Taylor Harwood-Bellis 76 (76)
- P-Nut (Ipswich Town): Crysencio Summerville - 76 (76)
- The Taurean (Nottingham Forest): Eduardo Quaresma - 76 (76)
- Akash (Kidderminster Harriers): Lazar Samardzic - 76 (73)
- Damien (Manchester United): Luka Sucic - 75 (70)
- 2mufc0 (Sunderland): Amad Traore - 73 (73)
- Big-Red (Tottenham Hotspur): Mustafa Kapi - 73 (73)
- Springfield WildCats (Milton Keynes Dons): Naci Unuvar - 73 (73)
- christy87 (Chelsea): Luka "Mexican Messi" Romero - 68 (68)
@Dom Gill sold his player already, so he's off the list.
Since Szos has been sold to Leipzig, Sucic has been playing a fair bit more. But I'll be stunned if anyone beats Wirtz to 90.
Have a feeling IV will finish before III. Some quality players in the former.
Insane. Thank feck Haaland wasn't eligible.This was back when I picked Gaetano. 30 of these players have been sold since.
When did 3 start
Around 7th April 2019. Annoying thing for me is Dest would have been eligible but I picked Salcedo.
I could of went with saka, who if he keeps playing like he is could get another +2 in the summer
#STOBACK
Yeah, was never going to win based on timings. My youth is so much stronger now, and I have a better view at who could actually make it.
FFP and Youth Table February 2021
FFP Status (1 February 2021)
Div 1
Thanks to @green_smiley for access to the spreadsheet for calculating team FFP.
February 2021 Youth Table
Formula
Age: 21yrs = 0pts; 20yrs = 0.3pts; 19yrs = 0.6pts ...
Rating: 82 = 1pts; 83 = 1.5pts; 84 = 2pts ...
And add them up
Players turning 22 in February
Youngest managed players rated 82+
Top 10 youth players by points
A full breakdown of the youth table can be viewed HERE.
Div 1
- Tottenham Hotspur - 37/42
- Manchester United - 44/45
- Arsenal - 47/48
- Liverpool - 50/50
- Sunderland - 49/51
- AFC Bournemouth - 52/52
- Aston Villa - 47/52
- Barnsley - 50/52
- Chelsea - 52/52
- Darlington 1883 - 51/52
- Everton - 51/52
- Fulham - 52/52
- Middlesbrough - 50/52
- Nottingham Forest - 50/52
- Southend United - 51/52
- Wolverhampton Wanderers - 52/52
- Cardiff City - 50/53
- Ipswich Town - 48/53
- Bristol City - 53/54
- Hereford - 54/55
- West Ham - 49/50
- Manchester City - 43/51
- Newcastle United - 49/52
- Blackburn Rovers - 49/54
- Milton Keynes Dons - 49/54
- Norwich City - 46/54
- Southampton - 50/54
- Leeds United - 48/55
- Derby County - 40/56
- Leicester City - 37/56
- Charlton - 48/58
- Preston North End - 28/58
- Bury - 39/59
- Kidderminster - 57/60
- Gillingham - 57/61
- Leyton Orient - 58/61
Thanks to @green_smiley for access to the spreadsheet for calculating team FFP.
February 2021 Youth Table
| Position | Team | Points | # of Players |
|---|---|---|---|
1 | Southend United | 72.7 | 21 |
2 | Nottingham Forest | 39.3 | 15 |
3 | Hereford | 35.3 | 16 |
4 | Wolverhampton Wanderers | 35 | 13 |
5 | Fulham | 33.3 | 15 |
6 | Sunderland | 31.2 | 12 |
7 | Barnsley | 28.9 | 14 |
8 | Newcastle United | 26.6 | 12 |
9 | Middlesbrough | 25.7 | 11 |
10 | Manchester United | 25.6 | 7 |
11 | Leyton Orient | 25 | 14 |
12 | Arsenal | 23 | 10 |
13 | Manchester City | 19.6 | 7 |
14 | Aston Villa | 19.4 | 7 |
15 | Everton | 18.6 | 9 |
= | Chelsea | 18.6 | 8 |
17 | Blackburn Rovers | 16.9 | 9 |
18 | Liverpool | 16.3 | 9 |
19 | West Ham United | 15.6 | 9 |
20 | Kidderminster Harriers | 14.4 | 8 |
21 | Cardiff City | 13.5 | 5 |
22 | Bristol City | 13.3 | 6 |
23 | Bury | 13 | 6 |
24 | Norwich City | 11.1 | 5 |
= | Milton Keynes Dons | 11.1 | 6 |
26 | Bournemouth | 9.5 | 7 |
27 | Tottenham Hotspur | 8.9 | 3 |
28 | Darlington | 8.5 | 6 |
29 | Southampton | 6.5 | 3 |
30 | Charlton Athletic | 5.8 | 2 |
31 | Leeds United | 5.3 | 3 |
32 | Ipswich Town | 3.1 | 2 |
33 | Gillingham | 2.8 | 1 |
34 | Derby County | 0 | 0 |
= | Leicester City | 0 | 0 |
= | Preston North End | 0 | 0 |
Formula
Age: 21yrs = 0pts; 20yrs = 0.3pts; 19yrs = 0.6pts ...
Rating: 82 = 1pts; 83 = 1.5pts; 84 = 2pts ...
And add them up
Players turning 22 in February
| Team | Player | Rating | Birthday | Points |
|---|---|---|---|---|
Leyton Orient | Edmond Tapsoba | 89 | 2 | 4.5 |
Wolverhampton Wanderers | Martin Zubimendi | 85 | 2 | 2.5 |
Bournemouth | Fran Beltran | 87 | 3 | 3.5 |
Hereford | Andriy Lunin | 83 | 11 | 1.5 |
Blackburn Rovers | Tyler Adams | 87 | 14 | 3.5 |
Southampton | Ignatius Ganago | 85 | 16 | 2.5 |
Liverpool | Alex Pozo | 85 | 22 | 2.5 |
Bury | Roman Evgenyev | 82 | 23 | 1 |
Southampton | Krepin Diatta | 86 | 25 | 3 |
Southend United | Gianluigi Donnarumma | 92 | 25 | 6 |
Southend United | Matvey Safonov | 85 | 25 | 2.5 |
West Ham United | Adolfo Gaich | 83 | 26 | 1.5 |
Milton Keynes Dons | Boubakary Soumare | 87 | 27 | 3.5 |
Youngest managed players rated 82+
| Rank | Team | Player | DOB | Age | Rating | Points |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Manchester City | Rayan Cherki | 17 Aug 2003 | 17 | 82 | 2.2 |
2 | Manchester United | Jude Bellingham | 29 Jun 2003 | 17 | 86 | 4.2 |
3 | Aston Villa | Florian Wirtz | 3 May 2003 | 17 | 85 | 3.7 |
4 | Barnsley | Harvey Elliott | 4 Apr 2003 | 17 | 82 | 2.2 |
5 | Fulham | Jamal Musiala | 26 Feb 2003 | 17 | 82 | 2.2 |
6 | Tottenham Hotspur | Yunus Musah | 29 Nov 2002 | 18 | 83 | 2.4 |
7 | Newcastle United | Pedri Gonzalez | 25 Nov 2002 | 18 | 87 | 4.4 |
8 | Southend United | Matias Arezo | 21 Nov 2002 | 18 | 82 | 1.9 |
9 | Newcastle United | Giovanni Reyna | 13 Nov 2002 | 18 | 86 | 3.9 |
10 | Nottingham Forest | Eduardo Camavinga | 10 Nov 2002 | 18 | 88 | 4.9 |
Top 10 youth players by points
| Rank | Team | Player | Age | Rating | Points |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Manchester United | Jadon Sancho | 20 | 92 | 6.3 |
= | Hereford | Erling Braut Haland | 20 | 92 | 6.3 |
3 | Southend United | Gianluigi Donnarumma | 21 | 92 | 6 |
= | Southend United | Matthijs de Ligt | 21 | 92 | 6 |
5 | Southend United | Alphonso Davies | 20 | 91 | 5.8 |
6 | Southend United | Kai Havertz | 21 | 91 | 5.5 |
= | Tottenham Hotspur | Joao Felix | 21 | 91 | 5.5 |
8 | Chelsea | Ferran Torres | 20 | 90 | 5.3 |
9 | Southend United | Alessandro Bastoni | 21 | 90 | 5 |
10 | Nottingham Forest | Ansu Fati | 18 | 88 | 4.9 |
= | Nottingham Forest | Eduardo Camavinga | 18 | 88 | 4.9 |
A full breakdown of the youth table can be viewed HERE.
Manchester United Season 23 agreed loans
Cengiz Under (23/89) => Ipswich Town
Vinicius Junior (20/89) => Newcastle United
Available for loan to anyone interested
Ibrahima Konate (21/88)
Sander Berge (22/87)
Sergino Dest (20/87)
Ridle Baku (22/87)
Cengiz Under (23/89) => Ipswich Town
Vinicius Junior (20/89) => Newcastle United
Available for loan to anyone interested
Ibrahima Konate (21/88)
Sander Berge (22/87)
Sergino Dest (20/87)
Ridle Baku (22/87)
Top 3 
You have @Wino1 to thank. He was third until he sold Brewster last night.Top 3
Sweet. 30 more points to catch up with greenie.
RS will overtake me first.
RS will overtake me first.
The following clubs have stadium capacity increased
Div 1
Southend United: 42999 -> 43586
Middlesbrough: 42449 -> 43391
Cardiff City: 39617 -> 42237
Ipswich Town: 36492 -> 41284
Bristol City: 33130 -> 37804
Hereford: 30788 -> 35008
Div 1
Southend United: 42999 -> 43586
Middlesbrough: 42449 -> 43391
Cardiff City: 39617 -> 42237
Ipswich Town: 36492 -> 41284
Bristol City: 33130 -> 37804
Hereford: 30788 -> 35008
New FFP (S23)
Div 1
Div 1
- Tottenham Hotspur - 42
- Manchester United - 45
- Arsenal - 48
- Liverpool - 50
- Sunderland - 51
- Aston Villa - 52
- Barnsley - 52
- Bournemouth - 52
- Cardiff City - 52
- Chelsea - 52
- Darlington - 52
- Everton - 52
- Fulham - 52
- Ipswich Town - 52
- Middlesbrough - 52
- Nottingham Forest - 52
- Southend United - 52
- Wolverhampton Wanderers - 52
- Bristol City - 53
- Hereford - 54
- West Ham United - 50
- Manchester City - 51
- Newcastle United - 52
- Blackburn Rovers - 54
- Milton Keynes Dons - 54
- Norwich City - 54
- Southampton - 54
- Leeds United - 55
- Derby County - 56
- Leicester City - 56
- Charlton Athletic - 58
- Preston North End - 58
- Bury - 59
- Kidderminster Harriers - 60
- Gillingham - 61
- Leyton Orient - 61
New FFP Status (2 Feb 2021)
Div 1
Div 1
- Tottenham Hotspur - 37/42
- Manchester United - 45/45
- Arsenal - 47/48
- Liverpool - 50/50
- Sunderland - 49/51
- Aston Villa - 48/52
- Barnsley - 50/52
- Bournemouth - 52/52
- Cardiff City - 50/52
- Chelsea - 52/52
- Darlington - 51/52
- Everton - 51/52
- Fulham - 52/52
- Ipswich Town - 47/52
- Middlesbrough - 49/52
- Nottingham Forest - 50/52
- Southend United - 51/52
- Wolverhampton Wanderers - 53/52
- Bristol City - 53/53
- Hereford - 54/54
- West Ham United - 49/50
- Manchester City - 43/51
- Newcastle United - 50/52
- Blackburn Rovers - 49/54
- Milton Keynes Dons - 49/54
- Norwich City - 46/54
- Southampton - 50/54
- Leeds United - 49/55
- Derby County - 40/56
- Leicester City - 37/56
- Charlton Athletic - 48/58
- Preston North End - 27/58
- Bury - 39/59
- Kidderminster Harriers - 57/60
- Gillingham - 56/61
- Leyton Orient - 59/61
Loan Cap (S14 and onwards)
- Applies to unmanaged clubs only
- Loan cap = FFP minus 40, first come first serve (e.g. if your FFP aka squad limit is 50, your loan cap = 50 - 40 = 10, which means you can only loan 10 players out to unmanaged clubs)
- Duration for the above - until Turn 2 every season. After Turn 2, it is free-for-all
- HARD RULE: Only players with rating 75 and/or above are allowed to be loaned out - if you spot someone breaking this, tell them to recall the player
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So with loans you can loan more if they are going to managed clubs?
Yes. I can loan 5 to unmanaged clubs, and usually end up loaning 3 on top of that to managed ones.
You should tag those that have had FFP changes @Damien
Yep, was planning to once I updated the original post of the thread (didn't want people looking at the OP thinking they were the numbers). Taking a while.