The Rise of the Right Wing In Ireland.

For clarity, thats not a Wexford accent, certainly not a Wexford townie accent, no mentions of "sahn" or "hun", and not a strawberry in sight.
 
Eyepopper said:
For clarity, thats not a Wexford accent, certainly not a Wexford townie accent, no mentions of "sahn" or "hun", and not a strawberry in sight.
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He had the aura of a Wexford man. If the far right targeted Wexicans we'd all get onboard.
 
moses said:
He had the aura of a Wexford man. If the far right targeted Wexicans we'd all get onboard.
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Shur we're all sound down here sahn, well apart from Mick Wallace.

He's a Wicklow man I'd bet, they're famously lacking in identity and insecure having Dublin and Wexford as neighbours.
 
Boycott said:
I for one am not shocked that international social media users who have convinced themselves that London is some sort of warzone from thousands of miles away are exploiting this with Ireland too.

Do I think Ireland has a legitimate rising right wing? Sure - because it has always carried a social conservatism and religious adherence coupled on top of the fact it was a tax haven for big business which is at odds with how other British left publications I've read treat a country like India which also has a long and violent past of being subjugated by the British. They aren't romanticised in the way Ireland is. Everyone holds India account for moving right under its current government and the attitudes of its modern population. That's always been a strange dichotomy to me.

What the Irish government has done in the last two weeks is give the Tory government here a route to complain about hypocrisy which they have gleefully taken by saying "hey now the problem of migrants is on your turf you want us to do the Rwanda plan you previously deemed horrible". And then it gives rise to the argument if Ireland wants to send them back to the UK, why can't the UK send them back to France and France to Albania. Before you know it we have completely dehumanised human beings by all referring to their existence as a problem and as "them". That's something which will raise the salience of right wing politics everywhere so it's not unique to Ireland in that sense.
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Helen McEntee is maybe the most inept politician I can remember. At least those republicans and tories in the US and Uk are effective at being cnuts, she just seems to do absolutely everything completely wrong. How the feck they ever let her get into such a position of power is insane? Everything under her is falling apart.
 
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If only there was a means of putting them somewhere people can't reach them. fecking smooth brain.
 
2mufc0 said:
What's going on in Ireland? It seems the same racist anti immigrant rhetoric which is normalised and profitable in the US and UK is being imported there. I know twitter is right wing cesspit these days but a tweet like this has 32k likes?

https://x.com/Mick_O_Keeffe/status/1794012413567660254?s=19
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There's a brigading effect going on there. Some recent research found that 75% of the respondents and interactions to tweets like that are from outside Ireland. Right wing groups from outside Ireland pile on and signal boost them.

Edit: I don't even have to dig up the research. Just look at the replies.
 
unchanged_lineup said:
There's a brigading effect going on there. Some recent research found that 75% of the respondents and interactions to tweets like that are from outside Ireland. Right wing groups from outside Ireland pile on and signal boost them.

Edit: I don't even have to dig up the research. Just look at the replies.
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That's good to hear, it's easy to get a warped sense of reality over social media. The anti immigrant grift has become big business and is exported it seems. It is concerning there is hardly any pushback under the replies, but it is X after all I guess.
 
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2mufc0 said:
That's good to hear, it's easy to get a warped sense of reality over social media. The anti immigrant grift has become big business and is exported it seems. It is concerning there is hardly any pushback under the replies, but it is X after all I guess.
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I think people are being way too complacent about this. These feckers are literally terrorists, they are burning down buildings, assaulting people and rioting for political gain. We need to address this now before it's too late, the far right is gaining massive traction in Ireland.
 
Raven said:
These views are becoming all too prevalent in Ireland, it's fecking disgusting.
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No they're not. They're a tiny, albeit very vocal, minority.

Wait and see what percentage of the vote these assholes get.

It'll be like the London mayoral election - Britain First lost to Count Binface.
 
Eyepopper said:
No they're not. They're a tiny, albeit very vocal, minority.

Wait and see what percentage of the vote these assholes get.

It'll be like the London mayoral election - Britain First lost to Count Binface.
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I've heard these views being parroted far and wide, racists are becoming far more emboldened over it.

Britain has the Tories who occupy the far right space there and Labour are to the right of FFG at this stage. Why would they bother voting for fringe groups when they have all the hate they could ever need coming from the 2 main parties?

I'm also not really talking about electoral politics as these psychos have proven themselves more than capable of committing acts of terrorism to further their cause.
 
Raven said:
I've heard these views being parroted far and wide, racists are becoming far more emboldened over it.

Britain has the Tories who occupy the far right space there and Labour are to the right of FFG at this stage. Why would they bother voting for fringe groups when they have all the hate they could ever need coming from the 2 main parties?

I'm also not really talking about electoral politics as these psychos have proven themselves more than capable of committing acts of terrorism to further their cause.
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Eh? What are you on about? What policies do any of the main parties in Ireland have that align with what these guys want?
 
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Pogue Mahone said:
Ah. Ok. Thought you were talking about two main parties in Ireland.
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I think we'll see far right parties get a significant boost at the polls because the 3 main parties here haven't shifted to the right massively like they have in Britain.
 
Raven said:
I think we'll see far right parties get a significant boost at the polls because the 3 main parties here haven't shifted to the right massively like they have in Britain.
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I'm terrified of the next elections. Even one of these pricks elected will amplify hate.

@Eyepopper is right, it's a tiny minority who are actually right-wing racist nutjobs, but every country in Europe has shown how they can utilise feat and legitimate gripes to become very successful on election day.
 
Rado_N said:
This reply is something special:

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I had a row in the pub last week with an ignorant fat Irish American cnut just home from Boston giving out about immigrants with zero irony. At one point he told me black people in the US were more racist than white people.
 
moses said:
I had a row in the pub last week with an ignorant fat Irish American cnut just home from Boston giving out about immigrants with zero irony. At one point he told me black people in the US were more racist than white people.
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I wonder from where that man gets his news, hmmmm?
 
Speaking of Americans trying to reclaim their ancestry, I watched this funny video from a Polish woman looking at how warped some of these people's minds are. I think that a lot of this will also hold true for Americans of Irish descent.

 
horsechoker said:
Speaking of Americans trying to reclaim their ancestry, I watched this funny video from a Polish woman looking at how warped some of these people's minds are. I think that a lot of this will also hold true for Americans of Irish descent.

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Our rural local anti immigration lot think Poland have right idea currently.
 
Raven said:
I think we'll see far right parties get a significant boost at the polls because the 3 main parties here haven't shifted to the right massively like they have in Britain.
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That’s a good point actually. Even our most right wing mainstream parties are pro immigration and progressive around stuff like LBGTQ issues. So people who feel strongly about stuff like that are much more likely to vote for right wing nutters than anyone in the UK.
 
unchanged_lineup said:
There's a brigading effect going on there. Some recent research found that 75% of the respondents and interactions to tweets like that are from outside Ireland. Right wing groups from outside Ireland pile on and signal boost them.

Edit: I don't even have to dig up the research. Just look at the replies.
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The far right troglodytes in portugal always have an army of bolsonaro fans liking and commenting their posts.
 
Vote transfers should help limit the more extreme voices in politics. Its an advantage that would go a long way in the UK and America imo.
 
moses said:
I'm terrified of the next elections. Even one of these pricks elected will amplify hate.

@Eyepopper is right, it's a tiny minority who are actually right-wing racist nutjobs, but every country in Europe has shown how they can utilise feat and legitimate gripes to become very successful on election day.
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Once I'm finished what I'm doing here at the moment I'm getting the feck out of dodge. This country is going down the shitter the exact same way as a lot of the West and I'm sick of pissing in the wind trying to stop it.
Pogue Mahone said:
That’s a good point actually. Even our most right wing mainstream parties are pro immigration and progressive around stuff like LBGTQ issues. So people who feel strongly about stuff like that are much more likely to vote for right wing nutters than anyone in the UK.
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Once we have a couple of far right freaks in the Dail spewing their shit, I feel things will get much worse.
 
Raven said:
I'm sick of pissing in the wind trying to stop it.
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Welcome to the Irish mindset.
We're not immune to this stuff but theres a part of me that thinks we'll just muddle through because were quite good at that really (and trying to stop it would be pissing in the wind). I dont know.
 
caid said:
Welcome to the Irish mindset.
We're not immune to this stuff but theres a part of me that thinks we'll just muddle through because were quite good at that really (and trying to stop it would be pissing in the wind). I dont know.
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There's great things about Ireland and the people but there's such major flaws. Our absolute unwillingness to protest major issues affecting us (other than immigration now apparently) is one and our attitude towards blatant corruption is another ("ah sure we'd all do the same").
 
So many intelligent liberals, hanging out with you guys us average guys get corrected all the time, it’s depressing.

When we go to the far right parties we’re intellectual giants, and anyone with a job is considered high functioning.
 
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