Ok. And just so we can continue this discussion how did you decide how close they are? Performance in the French national team?
Performances in the league and the regularity of the performances.
Ok. And just so we can continue this discussion how did you decide how close they are? Performance in the French national team?
Performances in the league and the regularity of the performances.
They did play in Ligue 1 before...you must be wummingHow can you compare someone's performance in Ligue 1 against someone performing in the premier league? The standard of the Premier League is a lot higher.
How can you compare someone's performance in Ligue 1 against someone performing in the premier league? The standard of the Premier League is a lot higher.
they also had a winter break and play in far less competitive leagues, terrible comparison@Twigginater Barca played 60 games last season, Real 59, Atletico 56.
Chelsea were the closest PL team with 54.
At some point, having been so wrong on so many things throughout the years, you really just have to take a step back and think to yourself "am I clueless?" *
* the answer is yes.
Again, you dismiss the result that goes the other way but happily use the one in England's favour as indicator. Spanish teams I believe have dominated European football for quite a while.Haven't English clubs relatively dominated their German counterparts in recent years? Everton beat Wolfsburg 6-1 on aggregate last season, then they knock us out and they're better than us?
Maybe you should actually read the thread, seeing as I wasn't making a 'comparison', I was pointing out that Spanish teams do play as many, if not more games than PL teams, something Twigginater claimed otherwise to. And that's ignoring your daft 'less competitive' comment.they also had a winter break and play in far less competitive leagues, terrible comparison
Again, you dismiss the result that goes the other way but happily use the one in England's favour as indicator. Spanish teams I believe have dominated European football for quite a while.
they also had a winter break and play in far less competitive leagues, terrible comparison
I have read the thread, your stats bear no relevance as they are incomparable.stop getting so emotional and read my post.Maybe you should actually read the thread, seeing as I wasn't making a 'comparison', I was pointing out that Spanish teams do play as many, if not more games than PL teams, something Twigginater claimed otherwise to. And that's ignoring your daft 'less competitive' comment.
Anyone who thinks la liga, bundesligue, serie a... feck it, if anyone thinks any other league in elite football is harder than the prem, needs to lay off the crack pipe.
Funny how all managers that come to these shores moans about the fixture list, competitiveness and pile up around xmas, how it is a detriment to our league and national team.
*sigh*You are talking about the 10 days "break", which is basically 3 more days than a normal week.
They all played in Ligue 1 ?
Oh come on pal, that's just lame.Also is a great excuse for their shortcomings.
why would I get emotional about such an awful post from an awful poster?I have read the thread, your stats bear no relevance as they are incomparable.stop getting so emotional and read my post.
they also had a winter break and play in far less competitive leagues, terrible comparison
why would I get emotional about such an awful post from an awful poster?
La Liga had 4 more extra rest than PL in xmas. Big deal. Arsenal had one week to rest before facing Barca who had 2 away games in 5 days before that match.they also had a winter break and play in far less competitive leagues, terrible comparison
Those in glass houseswhy would I get emotional about such an awful post from an awful poster?
logic should be your friendLa Liga had 4 more extra rest than PL in xmas. Big deal. Arsenal had one week to rest before facing Barca who had 2 away games in 5 days before that match.
You were exactly what this thread neededAnyone who thinks la liga, bundesligue, serie a... feck it, if anyone thinks any other league in elite football is harder than the prem, needs to lay off the crack pipe.
Oh come on pal, that's just lame.
I can guarantee that 90% of foreign managers who come to these shores have gone on record to have a whinge, no smoke without fire.
Haven't English clubs relatively dominated their German counterparts in recent years? Everton beat Wolfsburg 6-1 on aggregate last season, then they knock us out and they're better than us?
And they are doing better too most of the time.Well no I don't deny that the results of Barce/Real and Bayern are better than the best of the prem. I think as soon as they joined our league they'd struggle more, but that's not the point of this thread. We're looking at other teams.
It's the same everywhere. They all say what the press wants to hear.Not really. It can be thrown about a few ways. Players have gone to Serie A from the Premier League and have stated they have never worked so hard as they have in Serie A, Thierry Henry went to La Liga and said he has never had to run so much in England.
I'm not sure, but I think English teams might indeed have the upper hand in the head-to-head records (and if they do, it'll likely be close anyway). However, in previous posts you dismissed similar claims on fair grounds: because of the nature of cup competitions and the relatively small sample size of a single match-up in a single edition - now you're bringing it up because it suits your argument... yet you seem to dismiss or at least neglect the evidence of European coefficients, which paints the much broader picture of a 5-year trend spread out over 6 or 7 teams' performances in each of those years and which hence provides a bigger sample size to base one's claims upon - as far as teams in the top half of the table go, anyway.
And they are doing better too most of the time.
Do you think Barca, Bayern and Real would win Premier League BTW? (just testing delusion level here).
You were exactly what this thread needed
So for example if I was to look at Rayo's squad at the moment who have three first team players (started last game) who have previously played in the premier league. I could draw analysis from that and compare the La Liga's squad to a relative team in the Premier League that would be ok?
Originally? Yes.
Within two years they'd be brought back down to the level of everyone else.
So for example if I was to look at Rayo's squad at the moment who have three first team players (started last game) who have previously played in the premier league. I could draw analysis from that and compare the La Liga's squad to a relative team in the Premier League that would be ok?
Considering real and barca would not split 70% of tv rights, play on a more level playing ground financially... Who knowsAnd they are doing better too most of the time.
Do you think Barca, Bayern and Real would win Premier League BTW? (just testing delusion level here).
Yeah but don't forget Bebe and Manucho are just squad players and not important to them plus they did not really play in PL because they found themselves in team too strong to play. It's like saying PL is shite because Delofeu is doing well here and did not play in Spain.
The delusion level is extreme.
Originally? Yes.
Within two years they'd be brought back down to the level of everyone else.
Why?
I didn't compared Aston Villa to Troyes because I don't think that I'm able to compare them accurately, but I can say that Aston Villa have a mix of poor players and some talented ones like Amavi, I also know that someone like Ayew is a bottom half player in France while Corentin Jean is a legitimate talent who will play for Monaco next season.