The Redcafe Top 100 movies: Discussion and Preparation

Spoonez el Grande said:
Haven't seen it. I've only seen a few old French movies. Loved Les Enfants du Paradis.

Recommend me some, M160RA.
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To be honest, that's the only old French movie I've seen. It was pretty good; very different from Hollywood war movies. I saw Army of Shadows quite recently; haven't had time to watch too many movies lately because of uni, but I'm planning to rent some older French films from my library during the Christmas break.
 
As a film student I clearly should have been on this panel.

Les quatre cent coups
A cantebury Tale
Shadows (cassavetes film that influenced scorcese amongst others)
Cabinet of Dr Caligari
The kid (Chaplin not Willis)
 
I think we can make room for a couple of more, seeing as Marcos was only joking.

Your deadline is 31 Dec. Welcome to the best panel the world has ever put together, Ivor.
 
I have no idea who is on the panel now and who isn't. Please update the list Spoony.

Geebs, you've raised a good point that the list shouldn't be the author's favorite but there are lots of good movies out there that many (or even one) on the panel might feel was a brilliant movie in every sense but didn't get the recognition it deserved. In the end, we want to list the best 100 movies we've seen which is why it'd be a good idea to watch lots of movies in the next month.
 
Spoony
olesmyhero
cinc
Spammy
Wibble
GB
Plech
Hammer Michael
Dr. Dwayne
RedNome
Mehro
FreakyJim
Bilbo
Shotgun
Simon
Crappy
Ivor Ballakov
ILLB5

I'd have added Melb Red, but he's not around thesedays.

So, it's final. Agreed?
 
Spoonez el Grande said:
Spoony
olesmyhero
cinc
Spammy
Wibble
GB
Plech
Hammer Michael
Dr. Dwayne
RedNome
Mehro
FreakyJim
Bilbo
Shotgun
Simon
Crappy
Ivor Ballakov
ILLB5

I'd have added Melb Red, but he's not around thesedays.

So, it's final. Agreed?
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i see i'm not in that list

cnuts!

btw, mehro is gay

he'll vote for "Prince of the tides" as number 1 and "Grease" as number 2


gaaaaay
 
mehro said:
I have no idea who is on the panel now and who isn't. Please update the list Spoony.

Geebs, you've raised a good point that the list shouldn't be the author's favorite but there are lots of good movies out there that many (or even one) on the panel might feel was a brilliant movie in every sense but didn't get the recognition it deserved. In the end, we want to list the best 100 movies we've seen which is why it'd be a good idea to watch lots of movies in the next month.
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but surely a groundmaking movie or one that made a big impact on the movie world should take preference over some russian movie. Id like each person to be able to comfortably argue the case of each movie they nominate rather than "it was good" for i could say that about 1000's of movies not 100
 
golden_blunder said:
but surely a groundmaking movie or one that made a big impact on the movie world should take preference over some russian movie. Id like each person to be able to comfortably argue the case of each movie they nominate rather than "it was good" for i could say that about 1000's of movies not 100
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Unless that 'some Russian' movie is by Tarkovsky, I presume(who was very influential by the way). I hope you're not limiting yourself to Hollywood films, Geebs. And as I said earlier if we're simply looking at films that were ground breaking/highly influential, then we'll end up with a top ten of Tarkovsky's Kurosawa's or Hitchcock's films. I think influence is one category, but there are so many others.
 
Spoonez el Grande said:
Unless that 'some Russian' movie is by Tarkovsky, I presume(who was very influential by the way). I hope you're not limiting yourself to Hollywood films, Geebs. And as I said earlier if we're simply looking at films that were ground breaking/highly influential, then we'll end up with a top ten of Tarkovsky's Kurosawa's or Hitchcock's films. I think influence is one category, but there are so many others.
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Or Eisenstein a very important russian film maker.

Just finished watching operation filmmaker which is a very interesting documentary about an Iraqi film student who gets a break to work on the film "Everything is Illuminated". Very interesting as it takes a completely different path than I was expecting.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0984213/
 
Spoonez el Grande said:
Unless that 'some Russian' movie is by Tarkovsky, I presume(who was very influential by the way). I hope you're not limiting yourself to Hollywood films, Geebs. And as I said earlier if we're simply looking at films that were ground breaking/highly influential, then we'll end up with a top ten of Tarkovsky's Kurosawa's or Hitchcock's films. I think influence is one category, but there are so many others.
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off course there are and rightly so but i think any movie that influenced other movies or was groundbreaking at the time deserves extra merit. They are not all going to be like that off course as we are looking for the "best" movies. However, 1 mans opinion is going to sway from another mans opinion so imho we need some kind of structure to the final 100. I want people to convince me why they feel a particular movie should be in the final cut rather than just throwing obscure names around.

oh and i just took 'russian' at random.
 
Hammer Michael said:
So is this going to be a recognised sub-genre that has to be included in our choice? If so, I nominate the lesbian scenes in Bound and Mulholland Drive right now!
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:lol:

may I also suggest cruel intentions then. Not as graphic as the two you mentioned but being a spotty teenager when it was released means it holds a special place in my heart.
 
golden_blunder said:
off course there are and rightly so but i think any movie that influenced other movies or was groundbreaking at the time deserves extra merit. They are not all going to be like that off course as we are looking for the "best" movies. However, 1 mans opinion is going to sway from another mans opinion so imho we need some kind of structure to the final 100. I want people to convince me why they feel a particular movie should be in the final cut rather than just throwing obscure names around.

oh and i just took 'russian' at random.
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Yes, I realised that, but the point I was making is that there are plenty of brilliant films made outside of English speaking nations, they may not be mainstream, but fans of movies will no doubt have seen him. . .or at the very least heard of them. Side notish - Tarantino's been heavily influenced by Takeshi Miike's work. . .and he's plagiarised a few Eastern films, too. They may not have been big in say the US and the UK, but they've clearly been influential to Western cinema and have sizeable following here (and not just in the East.)

As for trying to convince you. . .well my suggestion is that you actually watch the film for yourself first(if you've not actually watched the film), then I suppose you could agree or disagree. As for the structure. . . it's all about opinions, isn't it? which is why we've got 20 people making a list. I'm sure we all won't totally agree with each other's list, but at least we'll have variety.
 
Spoonez el Grande said:
Yes, I realised that, but the point I was making is that there are plenty of brilliant films made outside of English speaking nations, they may not be mainstream, but fans of movies will no doubt have seen him. . .or at the very least heard of them. Side notish - Tarantino's been heavily influenced by Takeshi Miike's work. . .and he's plagiarised a few Eastern films, too. They may not have been big in say the US and the UK, but they've clearly been influential to Western cinema and have sizeable following here (and not just in the East.)

As for trying to convince you. . .well my suggestion is that you actually watch the film for yourself first(if you've not actually watched the film), then I suppose you could agree or disagree. As for the structure. . . it's all about opinions, isn't it? which is why we've got 20 people making a list. I'm sure we all won't totally agree with each other's list, but at least we'll have variety.
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I agree with this, I expect and hope everyones list has different things to what mine will end up having, it's inevitable, when did you last agree 100% with any list someone else has done. The fact is people will always have different opinions on what makes a great film and as such we will disagree, but hopefully with 20 odd lists to collate and discuss I am sure we can compromise and come up with something we are all relatively happy with.

It will take time, but it will be worth it.
 
What exactly are the rules to this?

1) Do I have to have a certain number of films from a given set of genres? Or do I have carte blanche with my 100?
2) We are not putting them in any order at this stage are we? (Please, God.)
3) Do I just post my hundred up in this thread (by end of the year) or do I PM someone?
4) Do I need to submit anything other than a list? Justifications? Explanations? Recriminations?
 
mehro said:
RedNome, be a pal and send out the PMs please.
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Not needed, people will see this thead I am sure. Plus I'm a bit stoned right now so can't really be arsed.

Nice try though ;)
 
mehro said:
fecking cnuts, the lot of you.
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For fecks sake, right, write me a pm and I'll send them out sometime tonight before the time I go to bed then, deal?

P.S. you lazy fecker.
 
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