All decent to good and there's probably more. (Well, not all Oceans films are worth the time, it got stale real quick.) I still think he doesn't have great range, but most actors don't. And as I said before, put him in the right role and it'll work. For myself, I usually take it as a good sign if he's involved or behind a film.
I mean, even if you believe they're all "very weak", which I don't, this is disconnected to the point about his charisma. It's a really weird point to make for me, there's a lot of films he's in that are pretty much carried by his presence.
I was attempting to differentiate between Pitt of old and Pitt of the past 10-15 years, but I’ll let it go.
The past 10-15 years have several beautiful charismatic performances, Tree of Life being one of them (it was 2011). Killing Them Softly came the following year. And I'm not sure how you can watch Once upon a time in Hollywood and not find him wonderful.
Now I know, thanks!
The range thing is also kind of a silly criticism. (Yes, I know it was me that brought it up!) I mean, most actors have a fairly limited comfort zone. When I start thinking about real range, I immediately end up with the top actors of a generation - meaning for me that real range is a top quality, not something you find commonly. So not having great range isn't really negative, obviously not everyone can have it all.
I mean it's silly and it's not, and he's played a wide variety of roles throughout his career - some will say he plays them the same way, some will say he doesn't, and then that defines "range". I don't feel I'm particularly seeing the same kind of performance between Jesse James and Burn after reading, so he definitely has some range (and I think his talent for comedy is sometimes slightly underrated). At the end of the day, it comes down to personal preference really.
Well yeah, they're obviously not all the same role. I was more thinking of someone like Christian Bale when thinking of real range - but as I said, that's the exception rather than a serious yardstick to measure most actors by.
Well yes, they're not the same role, they're also wildly different interpretations. I don't feel he's doing the same thing, in different roles (like say a Christopher Walken).
Absolutely. And some directors are quite clearly terrible at this.
Or even the opposite. Pasolini was such a god tier director that he could cast a random dude to play the leading role as Jesus and make it work.
Yep Bale done a pretty wide range of work from things like American Psycho, Terrence Malick and giant blockbusters. Although I still hate his Bateman voice!
Or even the opposite. Pasolini was such a god tier director that he could cast a random dude to play the leading role as Jesus and make it work.
Yep Bale done a pretty wide range of work from things like American Psycho, Terrence Malick and giant blockbusters. Although I still hate his Bateman voice!
Never apologies in the movie review thread.
Or even the opposite. Pasolini was such a god tier director that he could cast a random dude to play the leading role as Jesus and make it work.
Yep Bale done a pretty wide range of work from things like American Psycho, Terrence Malick and giant blockbusters. Although I still hate his Bateman voice!
Never apologies in the movie review thread.
Doon I faeking went, aye.Bale in The Machinist was quite something to behold as well.
Yep Bale done a pretty wide range of work from things like American Psycho, Terrence Malick and giant blockbusters. Although I still hate his Bateman voice!
Both! It’s what the people demand!Bateman, or Batman?
Probably the most extreme I’ve never seen someone go to play a role. I guess he likes the challenge which is kind of crazy.
You never left. We like to bicker sometimes, keeps things interesting.
His straightforwardness combined with his ability to make incredible movies was such a rarity. Pretty inspirational.
Daniel Day-Lewis is one of the all time greats, could easily be argued as one of the five best of all time. Christian Bale is a very good actor, but he's more of a top five actor of his generation I'd say.
Yeah, Jim Carrey is surprising in that regard actually. From Ace Ventura to Cable Guy to Man on the Moon to Eternal Sunshine is quite a lot variety.
I thought of those names as well, but what bothers me is that they're all men. Who are the equivalent great actresses? (And why don't their names come up just as easily?) I'm thinking of Kate Winslet, Cate Blanchett, Helen Mirren, Meryl Streep, maybe now also Emma Stone and Jessica Chastain. What do you say?
Gary Oldman and Philip Seymour Hoffman for sure, as mentioned by Coop. I’d add DeNiro to that list, and Russell Crowe. Add Ben Kingsley. Add Ryan Gosling. Adding Matt Damon. Adding Viggo Mortensen.
Frances McDormand, Kathy Bates, Emily Blunt, Rosamund Pike, Hillary Swank, Charlize Theron, Eva Green, Julianne Moore, Amy Smart, Jodie Foster, Sigourney Weaver, Brie Larson, Jane Fonda. An actor can be good without a lot of range, like Emma Stone for me - I love her but she plays the goofy girl who doesn’t know how hot she is almost exclusively. Anne Hathaway is the same, Natalie Portman also to a large degree. I love them but they aren’t going to be believable as the shlubby chick, the neurosurgeon, and the beauty queen. Some find ways to hide their outer beauty.
To the actresses Wing named, I'd add Saoirse Ronan and Michelle Williams. I also adore Carey Mulligan, but not sure she quite fits this bill even though I think she's one of the best working actresses in Hollywood right now.
Carey Mulligan was fantastic in Drive. She had such an aura about her in that. (Also featuring my boy Gosling.)
I’ve always been a big fan of Javier Bardem
Me too, me too. He's got good range as well.
Completely forgot about Tilda. Good shout.
She is brilliant. Another who hasn't been mentioned is Olivia Coleman.
