The Redcafe Decades Draft Tournament

I'll tell you how much it hurts, it hurts more than Diego, and that's saying something.
 
Two other RBs from the same decade out there. No biggie really imo. I myself just tossed a coin.


If that's true, why did you go for Thuram after everything you've said about him? Will he be playing as a fullback for you?

Zanetti is my favourite out of the three...
 
Mine too but I hardly need any attacking ability from the right back, just a pure man marking job for which Thuram is a lot more suited.
 
Theon : 1. Maradona
Brwned : 1. Best
antohan : 1. Facchetti
VP : 1. Matthaus
AldoRaine18 : 1. Cruyff 2. Thuram
KM : 1. Zidane 2. Neeskens
Stobzilla : 1. Baresi 2. Charles
Cutch : 1. Iniesta 2. Maldini

I've spent the last 15 minutes trying to figure out how you guys will pick next and it's very tough to guess with the decade rules. It's almost like a chess game.

Here's my guesses
VP - Matthaus or maybe Ronaldo
Aldo - Cruyff
KM - Platini
Stobzilla - Baresi,
Cutch - Maldini, Iniesta


Beyond that, I can't tell at all. Too many variables. Stobzilla needs to replace Gerrard I suppose but there's no easy alternative if Iniesta is taken.



Good to see I got almost all of them right. I couldn't figure out who who Stobzilla would go for next but knew Aldo would take Thuram.
 
Picking Platini would've meant that my50's pick is gone. I wanted a midfielder and an excellent partner for Kaiser. That's why chose Zidane and neeskens.
 
Mine too but I hardly need any attacking ability from the right back, just a pure man marking job for which Thuram is a lot more suited.

Ah yes, I see your point. Still would've personally opted for Zanetti even with that in mind but Thuram is the better option in this draft I think, looking forward he may be a bit of a problem though.

Zanetti and Gullit down one flank would've been amazing IMO, both attack and defence covered to the fullest, particularly with Rijkaard central too. I know you've played down your chances (not sure I'm buying that!) but I think you're in with a great shout.

Biggest advantage for Brwned is that he can just switch Best to the other side, and unlike others on here I wouldn't be keen to see you switch Thuram to the other flank to follow him...
 
Picking Platini would've meant that my50's pick is gone. I wanted a midfielder and an excellent partner for Kaiser. That's why chose Zidane and neeskens.

So your midfield is Beck, Neeskens and Zidane?

Woah, that came out of nowhere! Fantastic reinforcing from you mate...
 
Picking Platini would've meant that my50's pick is gone. I wanted a midfielder and an excellent partner for Kaiser. That's why chose Zidane and neeskens.

It makes sense once Neeskens is the choice. Yours was the side I had the most difficulty working out what you may go for as I couldn't see how you would add to Beckenbauer and Ballack (and had no idea whether VP would go about his midfield the way I thought he should). Dropping Ballack altogether is the simple solution really, now that I think of it!

I would play Zidane left and Laudrup centrally though, that removes much of the clashing concerns I had straight off the bat when I saw your pick.
 
Biggest advantage for Brwned is that he can just switch Best to the other side, and unlike others on here I wouldn't be keen to see you switch Thuram to the other flank to follow him...

:lol: You just gave him the biggest reason why Zanetti was his man actually.
 
Ah yes, I see your point. Still would've personally opted for Zanetti even with that in mind but Thuram is the better option in this draft I think, looking forward he may be a bit of a problem though.

Zanetti and Gullit down one flank would've been amazing IMO, both attack and defence covered to the fullest, particularly with Rijkaard central too. I know you've played down your chances (not sure I'm buying that!) but I think you're in with a great shout.

Biggest advantage for Brwned is that he can just switch Best to the other side, and unlike others on here I wouldn't be keen to see you switch Thuram to the other flank to follow him...

:lol: I would never switch Thuram to the left. I see your point mate, as I said it was a coin toss. Remaining tactics will be revealed during the game. :p

Nah Brwned's got this. I can try and slow down my death but Best and Sir Bobby, it is a damn big mountain with Robbo incoming.
 
So your midfield is Beck, Neeskens and Zidane?

Woah, that came out of nowhere! Fantastic reinforcing from you mate...

Awesome indeed, good thing VP has got himself a midfield. The Scirea pick is a no brainer now so Sammer can move to midfield.
 
:lol: I would never switch Thuram to the left. I see your point mate, as I said it was a coin toss. Remaining tactics will be revealed during the game. :p

Nah Brwned's got this. I can try and slow down my death but Best and Sir Bobby, it is a damn big mountain with Robbo incoming.

People were claiming that it's fine to switch full backs so long as they are required for a man marking job so you might be able to get away with it!!
 
Indeed, didn't even think of that. Surprised he didn't spot it considering he was banging on about it!

I did mate.

See, I am not aiming on stopping Best, I know I cannot even with Zanetti, so what's the point in wasting energy. As I said, I'm gonna play my own tactics and it is a gamble, I was going to replace Bergmark even if it was not Best he was facing, he got slaughtered earlier.
 
Plus as I said I had very little info (slow as dead internet here, cannot watch videos) and all I had was from articles. I cringed at the thought of defending someone without knowing what he's fully capable of. He was always there for only one game.
 
Did think of that, it would have been a cat and mouse thing. I'd switch Zanetti, he's switch Best. :lol:

Except you are the OP-meister so you could update instantly along with his updates. It may have been an effective way for him to stop you arguing your case though, asking for a wing swap every five minutes or so sending you back to edit the OP, then coming back to find another switch request.

I would have settled for Figo-Best being able to switch flanks at will and you saying they were being man-marked so the fullbacks are getting dragged across all game long. It would be fun to watch that, I'm sure Bestie would see the fun piss-taking side of it and that could completely throw him off his game.
 
I did mate.

See, I am not aiming on stopping Best, I know I cannot even with Zanetti, so what's the point in wasting energy. As I said, I'm gonna play my own tactics and it is a gamble, I was going to replace Bergmark even if it was not Best he was facing, he got slaughtered earlier.

I understand man, like I said, Thuram will convey what you want tactically better than anyone else.

Yeah, playing up your own considerable strengths will be your best course of action. Zico, Muller is still one of if not my favourite forward combination in the draft..
 
It makes sense once Neeskens is the choice. Yours was the side I had the most difficulty working out what you may go for as I couldn't see how you would add to Beckenbauer and Ballack (and had no idea whether VP would go about his midfield the way I thought he should). Dropping Ballack altogether is the simple solution really, now that I think of it!

I would play Zidane left and Laudrup centrally though, that removes much of the clashing concerns I had straight off the bat when I saw your pick.


I had no doubts over dropping Ballack and Dalglish after the last game. I felt that they were under-rated due to where they played.

I expected someone to pick Zidane early so that's why I initially planned to take Neeskens as my first choice but as soon as Zidane was not picked, I picked him straightway(Changed my pick to Platini for a minute but got back to Zidane immediately after that, hence that little edit).

I thought if I got Giggs and Neeskens I'd improve my team. Zidane and Neeskens took my team to a whole new level though.
 
Plus as I said I had very little info (slow as dead internet here, cannot watch videos) and all I had was from articles. I cringed at the thought of defending someone without knowing what he's fully capable of. He was always there for only one game.

I have a similar issue with Junior. I know he started his career at RB but, being ambidexterous, got switched to LB because Wanderley Luxemburgo was a bit shit (love it, serves him well the cnut). Then Leandro came through and that was the regular feature for club and country.

Do I think he would have a problem as RB? No. Am I confident enough to argue myself blue? Not really, more important things to talk about in a game than being pinned down to argue about that forever.

I like versatility in players, it gives you plenty of tactical options and room for manoeuvre with these sort of decade constraints. I reckon that is clear from my squad: Hierro, Desailly, Junior, Luis Enrique, Schuster, even Eusebio relative to a Ronaldo... Give them the right instructions and they will make anything work.
 
I had no doubts over dropping Ballack and Dalglish after the last game. I felt that they were under-rated due to where they played.

I expected someone to pick Zidane early so that's why I initially planned to take Neeskens as my first choice but as soon as Zidane was not picked, I picked him straightway(Changed my pick to Platini for a minute but got back to Zidane immediately after that, hence that little edit).

I thought if I got Giggs and Neeskens I'd improve my team. Zidane and Neeskens took my team to a whole new level though.

You were probably safe with both, no one after you would take them. There was a danger Brwned (if no Best) or VP would get Neeskens before you though.

Just look at Ronaldo, going all the way back to daddy.
 
I don't think Ronaldo is particularly non flexible Anto, between him and Eusebio I wouldn't mind which of them would drop deeper etc...
 
If he picks Ronaldo, then Villa won't need to play, as Toure would have to stay in?
 
I don't think Ronaldo is particularly non flexible Anto, between him and Eusebio I wouldn't mind which of them would drop deeper etc...

You would never play Ronaldo behind Eusebio though, nor expect him to put a reasonable shift in midfield. He certainly didn't have the same cannon shots from range.

Not to say I see Ronaldo as some sort of one-dimensional player staying upfront, of course not, he was a joy to watch at full pelt in his (one :() year at Barca.

I really don't think people will see my Eusebio-Ronaldo and Joya/Facchetti-Garrincha Death Cross. Not the Eusebio starting from midfield bit.
 
Ok I'm gonna stop trying to work all this out and just wait for the end teams!

Most teams have made some great improvements so the best round of fixtures will be interesting...
 
:lol: Was just pointing out what could be a decent option for him. I doubt he will go with it though as he needs to get rid of Yaya.

Since Figo is spent anyway he may as well use Villa there instead and get some proper firepower. I know the thinking is most won't see much of a difference between Sanchez and Villa, but I certainly do.
 
You would never play Ronaldo behind Eusebio though, nor expect him to put a reasonable shift in midfield. He certainly didn't have the same cannon shots from range.

Not to say I see Ronaldo as some sort of one-dimensional player staying upfront, of course not, he was a joy to watch at full pelt in his (one :() year at Barca.

I really don't think people will see my Eusebio-Ronaldo and Joya/Facchetti-Garrincha Death Cross. Not the Eusebio starting from midfield bit.

I'd love to see Ronaldo as a SS in someone's team but I'd imagine he'd endure some of the same criticisms Baggio does in that role. Generally I don't mind seeing Ronaldo in any part of the attacking third, obviously much prefer him central but the most important thing is for him not to be lumbered with sole goal scoring responsibility.