The Redcafe Decades Draft Tournament

AldoRaine18 said:
Ronaldo or Platini if you ask me. Ronaldo the better vote winner.
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Surely Platini, or as Antohan says Scirea.

Out of Ruud, Socrates or the defence Ruud is the least in need of an upgrade IMO.

I would have gone Platini as a straight swap for Socrates. but I actually really like Antohans Scirea idea. Him and McGrath would be monstrous at the back, then with Sammer moving forward you have a dominant, talented midfield pinging balls around the pitch.

Tough to say no to Platini and either is a great option.

VP has such awesome upgrade options, must be messing with his head :lol:
 
Exactly, plus a Brehme-Bestie flank would be devastating. Have a distinct feeling you'd pick Robson to complete the United quartet and sacrifice Hugol for Villa. Basically doubling the height of the mountain I need to climb. :lol:
 
AldoRaine18 said:
Exactly, plus a Brehme-Bestie flank would be devastating. Have a distinct feeling you'd pick Robson to complete the United quartet and sacrifice Hugol for Villa. Basically doubling the height of the mountain I need to climb. :lol:
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Or Neeskens.. :nervous:
 
Theon said:
Surely Platini, or as Antohan says Scirea.

Out of Ruud, Socrates or the defence Ruud is the least in need of an upgrade IMO.

I would have gone Platini as a straight swap for Socrates. but I actually really like Antohans Scirea idea. Him and McGrath would be monstrous at the back, then with Sammer moving forward you have a dominant, talented midfield pinging balls around the pitch.

Tough to say no to Platini and either is a great option.

VP has such awesome upgrade options, must be messing with his head :lol:
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Yes Scirea is a very good option. A Sammer, Lothar and Scholes midfield is monstrous. He can easily sit back, absorb everything and keep firing devastating counters.
 
AldoRaine18 said:
Yes Scirea is a very good option. A Sammer, Lothar and Scholes midfield is monstrous. He can easily sit back, absorb everything and keep firing devastating counters.
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Cutch brought up the point on whether Sammer ever thrived in a normal two man defence, instead of as a sweeper in a three. Do you know if that happened or not?

I don't know enough about where he played, but if he didn't then Scirea is an even better option
 
Both really gave their best as sweepers, but I don't find them a big issue as CBs as long as they are paired with the right partner. It is not a case like Beckenbauer where it really becomes out of place. Scirea-McGrath, I won the all time draft in the newbs with that same pairing, cannot say it doesn't work. :lol:
 
AldoRaine18 said:
Exactly, plus a Brehme-Bestie flank would be devastating. Have a distinct feeling you'd pick Robson to complete the United quartet and sacrifice Hugol for Villa. Basically doubling the height of the mountain I need to climb. :lol:
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Theon said:
Or Neeskens.. :nervous:
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Basically one of these two, yeah. Being able to say I have United's best attacker, best defender and three best midfielders of all time would be pretty nice...Robson-Edwards is going to get some criticism from antohan again though. If he works up a head of steam who knows what'll happen there. Neeskens if KM decides to steal Robson from me, and if not him then it's Tardelli. Tardelli or even Souness probably slot into the midfield better than Robson but I said from the beginning I was going with the vote-friendly options so...
 
Brwned said:
Basically one of these two, yeah. Being able to say I have United's best attacker, best defender and three best midfielders of all time would be pretty nice...Robson-Edwards is going to get some criticism from antohan again though. If he works up a head of steam who knows what'll happen there. Neeskens if KM decides to steal Robson from me, and if not him then it's Tardelli. Tardelli or even Souness probably slot into the midfield better than Robson but I said from the beginning I was going with the vote-friendly options so...
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I see Sanchez as one of the biggest strengths of your team, particularly with those wingers. Do any of the above options include keeping Sanchez as a starter?
 
AldoRaine18 said:
Oh and btw in the meantime, do tell me if there is a particular day/s where you are not available. Would like to have the knowledge before picking the dates.
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No one but Cutch responded to this, so I assume everyone else can go on whichever day possible.

How should we go ahead with this, I can really start the games as early as tomorrow but I don't want a situation like the Stob-kps game had, so probably let's keep the day off on Monday when it's our game. Two on the weekend and two after Monday should be alright I think.
 
I'm available after on Sunday, I think.
 
Fergus' son said:
I see Sanchez as one of the biggest strengths of your team, particularly with those wingers. Do any of the above options include keeping Sanchez as a starter?
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With Best in the team my wingers are now taking on a completely different role regardless, but no there's no way of keeping Sanchez I'm afraid. I can't bring Dzajic back in so Figo has to stay, no other options really.

Villa's top class. Top scorer for Spain, he and Muller are the only two players to finish top scorer in consecutive (major) international tournaments, he was the most important player in Spain's World Cup win, he's scored against Vidic in a CL final and he's shown again last night he has no problem scoring against top sides - http://i.minus.com/ibdC8a0qyYFbi7.gif

He has more pedigree than Sanchez at the highest level and in 20 years he'll undoubtedly be looked upon more fondly than many of his contemporaries wit those records. With Dzajic in the team Villa wasn't the right fit, with Best things come together nicely I think.
 
Theon said:
Surely Platini, or as Antohan says Scirea.

Out of Ruud, Socrates or the defence Ruud is the least in need of an upgrade IMO.

I would have gone Platini as a straight swap for Socrates. but I actually really like Antohans Scirea idea. Him and McGrath would be monstrous at the back, then with Sammer moving forward you have a dominant, talented midfield pinging balls around the pitch.

Tough to say no to Platini and either is a great option.

VP has such awesome upgrade options, must be messing with his head :lol:
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Yup. And then there's also Robson lurking, tugging at my heart.

Platini would've been an upgrade but could've attracted similar criticism of not being able to fit in with my wingers.
 
Brwned said:
With Best in the team my wingers are now taking on a completely different role regardless, but no there's no way of keeping Sanchez I'm afraid. I can't bring Dzajic back in so Figo has to stay, no other options really.

Villa's top class. Top scorer for Spain, he and Muller are the only two players to finish top scorer in consecutive (major) international tournaments, he was the most important player in Spain's World Cup win, he's scored against Vidic in a CL final and he's shown again last night he has no problem scoring against top sides - http://i.minus.com/ibdC8a0qyYFbi7.gif

He has more pedigree than Sanchez at the highest level and in 20 years he'll undoubtedly be looked upon more fondly than many of his contemporaries wit those records. With Dzajic in the team Villa wasn't the right fit, with Best things come together nicely I think.
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Best and Villa does sound good together but I'm still sad to see Hugo go. You should never have opted against Stiles IMO mate, would've been a perfect and complete midfield (only to be improved if someone extraordinary is available) and you could then concentrate on improving strictly for vote winning purposes, rather than tactical neccessities. There's always one regret in these drafts I tend to find!
 
VP said:
Yup. And then there's also Robson lurking, tugging at my heart.

Platini would've been an upgrade but could've attracted similar criticism of not being able to fit in with my wingers.
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Personally, I don't think so. Would love Platini on your team and with it being such an easy swap it had to be done! Would love Platini in any team in fact, don't think the criticisms levelled at Socrates can be directed towards him...
 
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Bit of a variation that may work better against Theon...thoughts ?
 
Stobzilla said:
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Bit of a variation that may work better against Theon...thoughts ?
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Not keen on that.

For some reason I thought you were a certainty to take Scirea, him and Baresi would be the best defence in the draft sewn up at a fairly early stage...

Either Scirea or a full back, wasn't expecting Charles at all (I may be missing some decade implication - cant be arsed keeping up!).
 
Baresi and Charles at the back in the 4-3-2-1 I had last round Is still about as good a pairing you can have. Forster has a history of having done a tip top man-marking job on Maradona which makes the 5-3-2 appealing. But it could work either way.
 
Fergus' son said:
Not keen on that.

For some reason I thought you were a certainty to take Scirea, him and Baresi would be the best defence in the draft sewn up at a fairly early stage...

Either Scirea or a full back, wasn't expecting Charles at all (I may be missing some decade implication - cant be arsed keeping up!).
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Scirea and Baresi wouldn't be a good partnership, too much of a good thing almost.
 
Someone like John Charles could get a lot of joy against a Baresi-Scirea partnership. For example, I remember Mark Hateley bullying Scirea. It would be a bit like playing Muller and Romario together up front, both phenomenal players but neither very complementary.
 
Brwned said:
I think if VP took Ronaldo for RvN it would make Sócrates less of a passenger for sure. Beforehand the tactic was get it out to the wingers and whip it in to RvN, now there'd more of a mix between attacking centrally or out wide and Sócrates' subtle passing game could come into play a bit more as he feeds Ronaldo. Ronaldo & Ronaldo is surely a big vote winner while Brennan at fullback isn't going to lose many.
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Agree on Brennan not looking a huge problem. Ronaldo is bound to end up at team Theon. F.a.p. baby f.a.p..

AldoRaine18 said:
Yes Scirea is a very good option. A Sammer, Lothar and Scholes midfield is monstrous. He can easily sit back, absorb everything and keep firing devastating counters.
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That's very much the idea. VPs alternative of Baresi-Robson wasn't bad at all though.

Cutch said:
The feck is this?
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A good idea actually! Excellent picks though, I was relishing the prospect of Voronin in your midfield :lol:

KM said:
Zidane.

Edit:this is final.
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Surely it had to be Platini! Nothing Zidane does that Laudrup isn't already doing while Platini will score goals. Handy them goals.

AldoRaine18 said:
Redondo's his man. He's waiting to get another pop on that overrated German and set things straight. :devil:
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Stobzilla said:
Baresi and Charles at the back in the 4-3-2-1 I had last round Is still about as good a pairing you can have. Forster has a history of having done a tip top man-marking job on Maradona which makes the 5-3-2 appealing. But it could work either way.
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I always had you down for Baresi-Charles. It was the only part of my decision tree which was cast in stone. Excellent picks, not sure about the defensive overreacton in the lineup though.
 
Theon : 1. Maradona
Brwned : 1. Best
antohan : 1. Facchetti
VP : 1. Matthaus
AldoRaine18 : 1. Cruyff 2. Thuram
KM : 1. Zidane 2. Neeskens
Stobzilla : 1. Baresi 2. Charles
Cutch : 1. Iniesta 2. Maldini
 
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