Enzo Calzaghe always come across a cnut to me but anyway Joe should stay retired Froch should move on.
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Froch should forget about Calzaghe, thats history make your own. Get a nice easy title defense and then go after Bute and get your payday.
Am i going to have to pay for the Hatton fight or is there a magical way of getting it for free? 
There will be links online I will post some on here on the night
Gonna be too late for me, although I say that and I will probably be sitting here waiting on your links.
What time does it start in London time?
you're looking at a 2/3 am start
Interesting there are rumours about Hatton and Mayweather splitting after this fight with Hatton possibly hooking up with Roach whatever the outcome, especially after some of the comments Roach has made in the 24/7 series.
Freddie "The Roach" Coach
Freddie "The Roach" Coach
There are pictures floating around of Floyd Jr outside his LV gym as he has started gettin ready for him July 18th fight with JMM
Be great to see him back in action.
That's not too bad. Can't remember the last big fight in Vegas including a brit but it was something like 5am start. I'll probably sleep on the sofa and check the TV every 30 minutes or something.
is that A.C Slater presenting?
Who's going to win tonight's main event?
To be honest Ricky looked pretty badly dehydrated at the weigh in and interviews. I would be shocked if he can go the distance at all... hope i'm wrong though
I admire both fighters but would like to see Hatton pull it off.
He is a blue Mancunian, but a Mancunian nonetheless. It should be a great fight.
He is a blue Mancunian, but a Mancunian nonetheless. It should be a great fight.
I thought he looked in great condition. Nothing like De La Hoya before he fought Manny or Margarito before the Mosley fight for example. Time will tell. I like Pacquaio, but my heart says Hatton by late round KO.
have you seen what he normally looks like? didnt look anythingout of the ordinary to me
have you seen what he normally looks like? didnt look anythingout of the ordinary to me
Hatton looked fine, both fighters look in good nick. I'm kinda leaning towards a Pac-Man win right now, but I hope Hatton does the job too, in fact either result will be good, just want to see a good fight.
As much of a Hatton fan I am, I'll be amazed if he wins tonight. Pacquiao is one of the all time greats.
Hatton always looks like that at the weigh in, he'll be fine. He's in great shape at the moment.
Genuinely 50:50 stuff for this, though - really difficult to call. I reckon if Pac can use his footwork to keep away from Hatton he'll win via UD, if Hatton manages to cut off the ring effectively and turn the fight into a brawl then I fancy him to win with a late stoppage. There's definitely going to be moments when they go at it toe-to-toe... will Hatton's strength and aggression or Manny's faster hands come out on top?
I'm a big fan of Pac's but I'm gunning for Ricky tonight. I'm not sure he's gonna do it, though. He's got a very good chance, but I think that as the fight goes on Pac's speed will gradually wear Hatton down.
Genuinely 50:50 stuff for this, though - really difficult to call. I reckon if Pac can use his footwork to keep away from Hatton he'll win via UD, if Hatton manages to cut off the ring effectively and turn the fight into a brawl then I fancy him to win with a late stoppage. There's definitely going to be moments when they go at it toe-to-toe... will Hatton's strength and aggression or Manny's faster hands come out on top?
I'm a big fan of Pac's but I'm gunning for Ricky tonight. I'm not sure he's gonna do it, though. He's got a very good chance, but I think that as the fight goes on Pac's speed will gradually wear Hatton down.
Hatton's fallen out with trainer, apparently. I don't fancy his chances
Any idea as to what time the fight will start? I need to put the alarm on
4am-ish
nice. hopefully they'll be more stable than the hatton mayweather fight.
Mayweather has just confirmed he'll be fighting Juan Manuel Marquez on July 18th.
here we go
any good justintv links around?
Wow Pacman put on 10lbs. He's 148, Hatton 152 unofficially.
Fecking hell.
Could he have made it any easier for the other bloke to pick him off?
amatuerish
Could he have made it any easier for the other bloke to pick him off?
amatuerish
Hatton lucky to survive the first round
the only appropriate word here is "pwned".
The only one who might give Pacman a proper fight is mayweather, otherwise it's just not fair to other fighters to go against Pacquiao
One of the all-time best.
As for Ricky? Big fight bottler.
As for Ricky? Big fight bottler.
Was always going to happen.
Brings new meaning to the term 'Pac Man kill screen'.
It is official. Moments ago at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, announced that Floyd Mayweather Jr. was coming out of retirement to fight Juan Manuel Marquez on July 18, on HBO pay-per-view, at the MGM Grand. Mayweather fights for the first time since knocking out Ricky Hatton back in December 2007.
The fight took several weeks of back and forth negotiations to make. The money involved was not the big issue. Both fighters argued over the weight. Mayweather, during the early talks, wanted the fight to take place at 147-pounds. Marquez, who holds multiple titles at 135-pounds, wanted the fight to take place at 143 at most. After a few weeks, Mayweather budged a bit and was willing to drop to 145. Marquez still felt the weight was too heavy. After some more talks, the two pulled together and agreed on 143.
After the Hatton win, Mayweather was going to have a rematch with Oscar De La Hoya. The talks were serious and De La Hoya even fought Steve Forbes last May as a tuneup for Floyd. The rematch fell apart after Mayweather unexpectedly announced his retirement from the sport. According to insiders, Mayweather was upset with the amount of money De La Hoya was going to receive for the second fight. Based on winning the first fight, and the success of the promotion, Mayweather felt the split for the second bout should have been a lot closer and not one-sided in De La Hoya's favor.
For years Marquez has been sitting in the shadows of his Mexican countrymen, Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera. Since 2004, when Marquez fought to a controversial draw with Manny Pacquiao, his legacy has been growing. He was always perceived as the "number three" of the bunch but now many experts are re-evaluating that status, and some are actually pushing him above Barrera and/or Morales. A win over Mayweather would send him well above the pack.
Regarded as the number-two pound-for-pound fighter in the sport, Marquez will take part in a fight that is arguably larger and sure to receive more hype than any fight that Barrera or Morales ever took part in. The media frenzy, HBO's 24/7 and numerous pre-fight promotions will probably make Marquez more of a household name, among the casual fans, than Morales or Barrera.
Many see the Marquez bout as an easy fight for Floyd, while others do not. Mayweather could be making a De La Hoya mistake by moving down to a weight where he hasn't seen since the win over Arturo Gatti in 2005. De La Hoya's fight with Pacquiao proved how a few pounds can make a complete difference. Oscar seemed somewhat fine for the fight with Forbes, at 150. He was completely dead for the fight with Pacquiao, held at 147. Oscar did weigh-in at 145 and the weight had a much further stretch than the Mayweather scenario. Oscar had not been below 146 since 1997.
The lingering points are still there. Mayweather is coming off a long layoff. He's been weighing in at 146 to 150 since the fight with Gatti - and nobody knows how those factors may come into play. Maybe they won't matter or maybe the fight will be a lot closer because of them. Remember that prior to Pacquiao's fight with De La Hoya, the bout was viewed as such as mismatch that fans, boxers and people in the industry were protesting to the Las Vegas Athletic Commission to stop the fight. This fight, while not viewed as a mismatch, is viewed by most as a sure Mayweather win.
The fight took several weeks of back and forth negotiations to make. The money involved was not the big issue. Both fighters argued over the weight. Mayweather, during the early talks, wanted the fight to take place at 147-pounds. Marquez, who holds multiple titles at 135-pounds, wanted the fight to take place at 143 at most. After a few weeks, Mayweather budged a bit and was willing to drop to 145. Marquez still felt the weight was too heavy. After some more talks, the two pulled together and agreed on 143.
After the Hatton win, Mayweather was going to have a rematch with Oscar De La Hoya. The talks were serious and De La Hoya even fought Steve Forbes last May as a tuneup for Floyd. The rematch fell apart after Mayweather unexpectedly announced his retirement from the sport. According to insiders, Mayweather was upset with the amount of money De La Hoya was going to receive for the second fight. Based on winning the first fight, and the success of the promotion, Mayweather felt the split for the second bout should have been a lot closer and not one-sided in De La Hoya's favor.
For years Marquez has been sitting in the shadows of his Mexican countrymen, Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera. Since 2004, when Marquez fought to a controversial draw with Manny Pacquiao, his legacy has been growing. He was always perceived as the "number three" of the bunch but now many experts are re-evaluating that status, and some are actually pushing him above Barrera and/or Morales. A win over Mayweather would send him well above the pack.
Regarded as the number-two pound-for-pound fighter in the sport, Marquez will take part in a fight that is arguably larger and sure to receive more hype than any fight that Barrera or Morales ever took part in. The media frenzy, HBO's 24/7 and numerous pre-fight promotions will probably make Marquez more of a household name, among the casual fans, than Morales or Barrera.
Many see the Marquez bout as an easy fight for Floyd, while others do not. Mayweather could be making a De La Hoya mistake by moving down to a weight where he hasn't seen since the win over Arturo Gatti in 2005. De La Hoya's fight with Pacquiao proved how a few pounds can make a complete difference. Oscar seemed somewhat fine for the fight with Forbes, at 150. He was completely dead for the fight with Pacquiao, held at 147. Oscar did weigh-in at 145 and the weight had a much further stretch than the Mayweather scenario. Oscar had not been below 146 since 1997.
The lingering points are still there. Mayweather is coming off a long layoff. He's been weighing in at 146 to 150 since the fight with Gatti - and nobody knows how those factors may come into play. Maybe they won't matter or maybe the fight will be a lot closer because of them. Remember that prior to Pacquiao's fight with De La Hoya, the bout was viewed as such as mismatch that fans, boxers and people in the industry were protesting to the Las Vegas Athletic Commission to stop the fight. This fight, while not viewed as a mismatch, is viewed by most as a sure Mayweather win.
Our boy was well and truely cained. It was a weird night for me but I expected it so Im not too fussed