The RedCafe Boxing Thread

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Don't worry mate these things happen. I had their entire careers mapped out in a drug-induced stream of consciousness rant at my mate. Hatton would win the first one, and Pac would win the two rematches to take the trilogy. Hatton would then end his career on a high by knocking out Amir Khan, and Pac would move up to welterweight to try to unify the titles and clean out the division, beating Cotto and an out of retirement Mayweather, but coming up short against Shane Mosley. He'd then end his career with one last war with Marquez.

My mate was lost for words when I eventually shut up. Says I'm the only person he's met than can chat more unadulterated shite about boxing than he does.

This is the stuff films and dreams are made of lol
 
Things got ugly at a London press conference on Monday, announcing the June 20 showdown [to the British press] between WBO/IBF heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko and challenger David Haye, set for Schalke's Veltins-Arena in Germany. Haye once again wore his t-shirt with the severed heads of Wladimir and older brother Vitali Klitschko. The two fighters continued to throw verbal insults and trade harsh words.

"Yes I have a personal dislike for Wladimir," said Haye. "He sucks, he's crap. I don't like his style. I don't like what he represents. He doesn't entertain. Yes he's a gentleman but you should judge a fighter on what he does once the bell rings, not what he does outside the ring.

"He doesn't give value for money, like I do. He's embarrassing, everything he does in the ring is embarrassing. I want him to fight like a man, not run like a bitch. Stand and fight me Wladimir Bitchko! I'm going to smash his head in and he will be bleeding on the floor."

Klitschko fired back. He promises to batter Haye in each round, taking pleasure in the slow damage process.

"David should have stayed at cruiserweight. He's only had two heavyweight fights but now wants to be champion. He's been very provocative. He cut my head off for one magazine - that's pretty provocative so I decided to fight this boy," Klitschko said.

"Now I see Haye with a cut off head of my brother, my family member. What's going to be next? My dad's head? My mother's head? Will he attack my religion, my race? This is over the edge - it's not sport. This guy will be punished.

"After 12 rounds he will be a pizza face - then I will knock him out. He needs to be taught how to behave. I don't want to waste my energy on this trash talk. It's embarrassing for the sport. He's a loser and I want to shut his mouth."
 
Things got ugly at a London press conference on Monday, announcing the June 20 showdown [to the British press] between WBO/IBF heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko and challenger David Haye, set for Schalke's Veltins-Arena in Germany. Haye once again wore his t-shirt with the severed heads of Wladimir and older brother Vitali Klitschko. The two fighters continued to throw verbal insults and trade harsh words.

"Yes I have a personal dislike for Wladimir," said Haye. "He sucks, he's crap. I don't like his style. I don't like what he represents. He doesn't entertain. Yes he's a gentleman but you should judge a fighter on what he does once the bell rings, not what he does outside the ring.

"He doesn't give value for money, like I do. He's embarrassing, everything he does in the ring is embarrassing. I want him to fight like a man, not run like a bitch. Stand and fight me Wladimir Bitchko! I'm going to smash his head in and he will be bleeding on the floor."

Klitschko fired back. He promises to batter Haye in each round, taking pleasure in the slow damage process.

"David should have stayed at cruiserweight. He's only had two heavyweight fights but now wants to be champion. He's been very provocative. He cut my head off for one magazine - that's pretty provocative so I decided to fight this boy," Klitschko said.

"Now I see Haye with a cut off head of my brother, my family member. What's going to be next? My dad's head? My mother's head? Will he attack my religion, my race? This is over the edge - it's not sport. This guy will be punished.

"After 12 rounds he will be a pizza face - then I will knock him out. He needs to be taught how to behave. I don't want to waste my energy on this trash talk. It's embarrassing for the sport. He's a loser and I want to shut his mouth."

*Marks June 20th on calender and chucks 50 bucks in saving*

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I will be sneaking around to my brother in-laws for the Haye bout I reckon, saves me some cash.

Hatton/Pac-Man 24/7 Part 2 is out, gonna watch that in abit.
 
Sports fans will get the opportunity to watch delayed coverage of Carl Froch's first defence of his WBC super-middleweight title against Jermain Taylor on free-to-air television after ITV Sport secured the exclusive delayed rights to broadcast one of the biggest fights of the year less than 24 hours after it takes place.

Britain's only reigning world champion will put his belt on the line against former undisputed middleweight champ, Taylor at the MGM Grand at Foxwoods Resort Casino in Connecticut this Saturday.

The fight will be shown on a delayed basis on ITV4 at 8.30pm on Sunday (April 26th) and repeated on ITV1 at 11.15pm the same evening.

Froch's title winning thriller against the then unbeaten Jean Pascal was broadcast live on ITV1 last December while ITV4 also broadcasts free-to-air boxing as part of a deal with Froch's promoter Mick Hennessy .

Recent fights have featured top names from the Hennessey Sports stable including Darren Barker, John O'Donnell, John Murray, Jon Thaxton and heavyweight novice, Tyson Fury.
 
This is good for me as I won't be able to stay up to watch it. Avoiding the result all day will be a challenge though.
 
A rematch between Bernard Hopkins and Felix Trinidad will not come cheap. According to father/trainer Felix Trinidad Sr, promoter Don King presented Tito with an offer of $15 million dollars for a Hopkins rematch. As previously reported on BoxingScene.com, King recently came to Puerto Rico to meet with Trinidad and discuss terms for a Hopkins rematch. Although Trinidad has been chasing for a Hopkins rematch since the 2001 knockout loss, King claims that it was Hopkins who reached out to them to initiate negotiations for a November meeting.

Trinidad does have a contract with King that guarantees him at least $10 million per fight. He received around $15 million for last January's decision loss to Roy Jones Jr.

"It is the value that Tito walks around at. And this fight with Hopkins is even bigger than the one with Roy Jones because this is a rematch that people are expecting and the public, especially Puerto Rico, will support," Trinidad told El Nuevo Dia.

"No promoter is giving away money. They know that Tito is a fighter who sells a lot of pay-per-views. Tito lost to Roy Jones but it was not a beating. Tito is still the same. I'm not going above what Tito deserves. I'm not killing the negotiations but if the fight generates so much money, it is fair that all of the parties should benefit."

"A fight with Tito is very interesting. But now it is even more so since Hopkins' win over Pavlik. It showed that he's not finished. This is a rematch Tito deserves and I personally favor."
 
A rematch between Bernard Hopkins and Felix Trinidad will not come cheap. According to father/trainer Felix Trinidad Sr, promoter Don King presented Tito with an offer of $15 million dollars for a Hopkins rematch. As previously reported on BoxingScene.com, King recently came to Puerto Rico to meet with Trinidad and discuss terms for a Hopkins rematch. Although Trinidad has been chasing for a Hopkins rematch since the 2001 knockout loss, King claims that it was Hopkins who reached out to them to initiate negotiations for a November meeting.

Trinidad does have a contract with King that guarantees him at least $10 million per fight. He received around $15 million for last January's decision loss to Roy Jones Jr.

"It is the value that Tito walks around at. And this fight with Hopkins is even bigger than the one with Roy Jones because this is a rematch that people are expecting and the public, especially Puerto Rico, will support," Trinidad told El Nuevo Dia.

"No promoter is giving away money. They know that Tito is a fighter who sells a lot of pay-per-views. Tito lost to Roy Jones but it was not a beating. Tito is still the same. I'm not going above what Tito deserves. I'm not killing the negotiations but if the fight generates so much money, it is fair that all of the parties should benefit."

"A fight with Tito is very interesting. But now it is even more so since Hopkins' win over Pavlik. It showed that he's not finished. This is a rematch Tito deserves and I personally favor."

That would be a nothing fight. I can understand Hopkins taking it for the money, but for his legacy this version of Tito wouldn't change a thing. I hope he fights Chad Dawson or Thomas Adamek.
 
According to The Ring, World Boxing Council (WBC) lightweight champion Edwin Valero (25-0, 25 KOs) is reportedly nearing completion of an agreement to fight number #4 ranked #WBO lightweight contender Breidis Prescott (21-0, 18 KOs) on July 25th in Mexico. On the same card with be undefeated light middleweight contender Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (39-0-1, 29 KOs) against a still to be determined opponent.

If the Valero-Prescott bout does take place, you may be seeing Valero lose for the first time because he doesn’t look nearly as good Prescott from what I’ve seen of him.

Valero, 27, recently defeated 39-year-old Antonio Pitalua in a 2nd round TKO on April 4th in Austin, Texas. Valero looked like nothing special in the first round, and fought standing straight up, showing poor hand speed and equally bad defense. There was little action in the round to speak of with Pitalua landing the better shots. In the 2nd, Valero caught Pitalua with a right hook at the start of the round and put him down.

It wasn’t a huge shot, but instead one that Pitalua wasn’t expecting. However, the 39-year-old was badly hurt after he got up and was hardly in the condition to defend himself from any punches. Valero, not to let the opportunity got to waste, jumped immediately all over Pitalua, landing a flurry of shots to put 40ish Pitalua down for the count.

It wasn’t an impressive win, however, because of Pitalua’s advanced age and how because of how average Valero looked in the opening round. The punch that hurt Pitalua, like I said, wasn’t that big of a shot. He just didn’t see it coming at him.

Sad to say, Pitalua is probably Valero’s best opponent during his entire seven year pro career, with many of them being C-class fighters. Although Valero is hyped badly because of his 25 wins with 25 knockouts, his record would likely be duplicated by many other lightweights in the division if they had been fortunate to face the same lower level fighters that Valero has built his highly inflated record on.

It’s sad, because many of the more gullible, unknowing boxing fans see his record and consider it prove that Valero is perhaps the top guy in the lightweight division, when in reality he may not even be as good as some of the bottom 10 fighters like Urban Antillon.

Prescott, 25, from Colombia, shocked the boxing world by knocking out overhyped British lightweight Amir Khan in the 1st round in September 2008. Prescott nearly decapitated Khan with a huge left hook that sent Khan down moments into the fight.

Prescott would drop Khan again with another huge left hook to the head, causing the fight to be stopped at 0:54 of the 1st round. Prescott hasn’t had much interest from Khan in a rematch, and that’s understandable given how badly Prescott beat him.

Most recently, Prescott defeated Humberto Toledo by a 10th round disqualification in February. Although Prescott didn’t get the knockout, he landed devastating shots for 10 rounds and it’s credit to Toledo’s solid chin that he was able to take the shots.

I see Prescott as being a much better fighter than Valero. Prescott is a much more powerful puncher, has fought better fighters and is a lot bigger than the small 5’6” Valero compared to the 5’11” Prescott. Honestly, this is going to be a huge mismatch by the time it’s over, and unless Valero’s promoter steps in to stop the fight from going forward, I see Prescott knocking Valero out within three or four rounds. Believe me, Prescott is the real deal.

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I think i'll listen tot he Froch vs Taylor fight on the radio, coverage from 3ish on Fivelive i think.
 
Hts off to Froch came back and stopped Taylor with less than a minute to go after gettin knocked down early.
He needed it as well as he was behind on 2 cards I think
 
Just watched Juan Manuel Lopez batter Gerry Penalosa. Penalosa is one of the gutsiest fighters - I don't have a clue how he stayed on his feet. Very impressed with Lopez. Freakishly good workrate on top of his power and skills.
 
Juanma destroyed him fr 9 rounds respect for Penalosa for hanging around as long as he did.
Juanma broke records for punches thrown and landed in the super bantamweight division last night can you imagine!
 
I gotta say Froch really impressed me with that, he was down mid way and he dug in and battled against a super talented opponent. He just did not handle Taylor well enough in the early rounds, but I dont think he was 4 points down on 2 cards, no way, there was maybe 1 or 2 in it going into the 12th.

Taylor was out of gas but Froch still put him away, impressed. He must do his trainers head in though, if he just worked with his hands up he wouldn't make half as hard as he does. But gotta say I'm a fan, I look forward to his next fight where he will have to step up to another level, but he can only get better after that.
 
I gotta say Froch really impressed me with that, he was down mid way and he dug in and battled against a super talented opponent. He just did not handle Taylor well enough in the early rounds, but I dont think he was 4 points down on 2 cards, no way, there was maybe 1 or 2 in it going into the 12th.

Taylor was out of gas but Froch still put him away, impressed. He must do his trainers head in though, if he just worked with his hands up he wouldn't make half as hard as he does. But gotta say I'm a fan, I look forward to his next fight where he will have to step up to another level, but he can only get better after that.

I thought he got very lucky but his will to win has to be commended. His obsession with Calzaghe is a bit embarrasing though.
 
I wouldnt say lucky because he stayed in the fight until the end but Jermain Taylor really needs to sort his engine out.
That was a major factor

I think Taylor could have won if he had been more elusive in the last round, the fight was won, just stay at arms length. (Easier said than done I suppose)

Taylors stamina was a major factor, I admit that but Froch had only landed 1 or 2 visibly hurtful punches in the whole fight and then managed to nail him in the final round with 14 seconds to go. There is an element of fortune in that.

Respect to Froch though, he has stepped up in class for the last 2 fights and been victorious. Perhaps he will get a bit more recognition now.
 
I thought he got very lucky but his will to win has to be commended. His obsession with Calzaghe is a bit embarrasing though.
Froch would love to be in Calzaghe's class and reckons that if he can lure an unfit, unmotivated Joe out of retirement AND beat him that we might just possibly think he has the same quality. He doesn't and never will. He did well to stay with Taylor and beat him though but Taylor is not half the boxer he once was.
 
Froch would love to be in Calzaghe's class and reckons that if he can lure an unfit, unmotivated Joe out of retirement AND beat him that we might just possibly think he has the same quality. He doesn't and never will. He did well to stay with Taylor and beat him though but Taylor is not half the boxer he once was.

I don't pretend to know a great deal about boxing but I would agree with that.
I haven't seen enough of Taylor to know how good he was, but I heard he beat Hopkins which is commendable.
 
I thought he got very lucky but his will to win has to be commended. His obsession with Calzaghe is a bit embarrasing though.

Me too. I think he was lucky.

He needs to get over Calzaghe. We all know Calzaghe would take him to school - hes only after the money.

He should be going after Kessler or Kelly Pavlik.
 
Me too. I think he was lucky.

He needs to get over Calzaghe. We all know Calzaghe would take him to school - hes only after the money.

He should be going after Kessler or Kelly Pavlik.

He made his own luck though - he's got a good chin, excellent power and a shitload of heart.. Totally agree he needs to fecking give over about Calzaghe though. I think Kessler would knock him out, but Pavlik would be a great fight.
 
Calzaghe and his dad are cnuts though despite being unwilling to fight him they continuously try and wind Froch up
Calzaghe's father and trainer Enzo echoed the views of his son and suggested that Froch should be targeting rising Welsh star Nathan Cleverly.

"That would be a cracking fight and Nathan would possibly have too much class for him," said Enzo Calzaghe.

"Froch can't protect himself and Nathan could exploit that. Froch says he's a legend but the only legend from Nottingham is Brian Clough."