The RedCafe Boxing Thread

It's a hard fight to call, I would go with Bivol being more technical but more in the remit of how he manages distance control he's the best boxer (subjectively) current generation with positioning the lead foot. He's consistently staggering the back foot succinctly so he's in and out simultaneously without wasting movement, it's a nightmare unless the opponent rushes in which is why he offsets the ability for them to reset. Very similar in that regard to Usyk to a small degree it's not surprising given it's a amateur basis of fighting (both have world class records) which they have integrated well into the pro's.

So I can see Beterbiev getting lost in the sauce if he's fighting at Bivol's range but what when happens when Beterbiev eventually closes that gap, he's knocked out far bigger opponents Gvozdyk / Joe Smith to name who are units at light heavy so if Bivol's taking punishment from round to round he's likely going down.

Beterbiev's ruptured meniscus could play a factor, if he's moving around how much does that impact his comfort, heard fighters with the exact same tear like Chris Algieri say it's a muscle issue that you never truly recover from.
 
That's certainly one way to tell it, the other is Usyk did his best impression of Simon Cowell and his high waisted trousers, which made blows to the lower stomach automatically look like illegal blows.

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And of course Dubois is going to have the sails knocked out of him in terms of morale after seeing a good shot called bad, his opponent allowed to totally recover, recollect his thoughts and strategy and get back to it.

Usyk is an incredible fighter with the heart of a champion, clearly, but also not above "grabbing five" to clear his thoughts, which paints the picture of a wily strategist who will take advantage of a weak referee.

I don't know about 'discredit' - the referee is the one at fault and a smart opportunist took advantage of that - but that victory is controversial and Dubois' chance of winning was taken away from him. A better referee doesn't allow things to get to that stage because he tells Usyk to fix his shorts before he even walks out, and again inside the ring before opening round, if he's pulled them up again.
Not sure if his shorts are higher than usual, but even if they are, you can see from the punch that Dubois entire punch, not just part of it, was below shorts. So Usyk's shorts need to have been over 10cm higher for the punch to be valid. Here is the picture of the punch

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I honestly, do not see where the controversy arises. It was an illegal punch, in a match where Usyk dominated from beginning to the end and probably won every round of it.
 
Not sure if his shorts are higher than usual, but even if they are, you can see from the punch that Dubois entire punch, not just part of it, was below shorts. So Usyk's shorts need to have been over 10cm higher for the punch to be valid. Here is the picture of the punch

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I honestly, do not see where the controversy arises. It was an illegal punch, in a match where Usyk dominated from beginning to the end and probably won every round of it.
he was only punched in the junk because he was erect. happened to me at the park. sometimes you just need to accept it and walk away.
 
Yep, tough fight for him and I think he just looked for a way out. Reminded me a bit like what Khan did against Crawford
Yeah he is getting absolutely slated on twitter.

Left the ring in a wheelchair too to properly milk it :lol:
 
Yeah he is getting absolutely slated on twitter.

Left the ring in a wheelchair too to properly milk it :lol:

:lol: Just saw that. Let’s see what comes out from the scans they’ll carry out. Shame for Cameron, doubt he’ll get a rematch

A lot of hype around Whitaker, but he’s got zero power to keep top fighters off him
 
I had a free 3 quid bet so I've chucked it on a draw. 52 back if it happens.

No point trying to make a fiver on a free bet.
 
Looks like he’s broken something on the left side of his face/head. Can’t work it out but it doesn’t look great.
 
Did hitting the rope knock him out?
As weird as that sounds, I remember seeing something similar recently in WWE