Hard to say for sure but he could just have cut all his excess body fat through training hard. His body doesn't scream roids. He looks naturally lean.
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Hard to say for sure but he could just have cut all his excess body fat through training hard. His body doesn't scream roids. He looks naturally lean.
I jest, a little bit. He obviously has form for it and has bad company. But anyway. Don’t like the bloke but if he knocks over Usyk then Joshua he will have some legitimacy on his record, rather than the joke it is at the moment
He’s been working with nutritionist Greg Marriott again. I think he helped him shift all the weight when he first made his comeback but they had an enforced break when Marriott got cancer.
Marriott knows his stuff and wouldn’t stick around if Fury wasn’t sticking to the plan.
Its just hard to like Fury sometimes. He sucks up so hard to the Saudis and his entourage including Dad are just a bunch of wasters and animals.
What a fecking lowlife animal he really is.
Tyson does a glorious rags to riches story and he is riding on his sons fame as his own boxing career was pretty dismal.
Embarrassing behaviour. Hilarious that the young lad took it like a minor inconvenience as he's passing by.
Tyson's father: "I am a warrior".
What a crap human being.
What a crap human being.
The whole Fury family are a joke to Boxing, John is a joke full stop, he need banning.
Time the Boxing authorities stepped in and did something.
Fury's and youtubers, they are dragging boxing thought the gutter.
Time the Boxing authorities stepped in and did something.
Fury's and youtubers, they are dragging boxing thought the gutter.
sometimes ? He has to be the most dislikeable Boxer ever.
I can’t see how he’s allowed into the arena on Saturday, although it’s Saudi so they will just brush it off so the show isn’t at risk.
Genuine question, not trying to piss off his fans.
Mike Tyson seems to get plenty of love and admiration online. Why does his rape conviction not get brought up as much in comparison to other celebrities who have similar troubled histories?
Is it how long it was ago, the fact that he's served time for it etc.?
Genuinely curious.
Mike Tyson seems to get plenty of love and admiration online. Why does his rape conviction not get brought up as much in comparison to other celebrities who have similar troubled histories?
Is it how long it was ago, the fact that he's served time for it etc.?
Genuinely curious.
Come on guys this fight deserves a thread of its own. It shouldn't get lost in the boxing thread.
History will be made in whoever wins the fight will be the first person to hold all four heavyweight belts at the same time.
Usyk - WBA, IBF, WBO
Fury - WBC
Who will win? Both undefeated as well.
History will be made in whoever wins the fight will be the first person to hold all four heavyweight belts at the same time.
Usyk - WBA, IBF, WBO
Fury - WBC
Who will win? Both undefeated as well.
That's probably why. Most boxing fans of the present aren't old enough to remember it and he did do several years in jail for it at the time, so most tend to place it in the "he paid his debt to society by going to prison" category.
Unbelievable, the moron should be banned.
Either man can cement their place in history If Usyk wins then there’s even a big argument for him being the GOAT. I just feel that with Fury’s boxing ability he’ll be too big for Usyk, but only if Fury’s managed to train himself in shape.
Utter scumbag.
Didn't realise a British boxer was killed on his debut: 
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/a...fter-collapsing-in-ring-on-professional-debut
This sport is no joke
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/a...fter-collapsing-in-ring-on-professional-debut
This sport is no joke
Almost here!
By the way Fury really doesn't look that much taller than Usyk, not convinced he's 6:9 as he claims
By the way Fury really doesn't look that much taller than Usyk, not convinced he's 6:9 as he claims
I don't know why I thought this was later. Feels like it's crept up this week. What time's it on UK?
Ring walks between 22.30 and 23.30pm UK time according to Frank Warren
Anything decent on the undercard worth watching?
I like Usyk. Does he have a real chance?
It's about boxing ability. Height-wise the guy is very short for a heavyweight, and yet he had people legitimately scared of him. I can only think of David Tua who had Mike's height and reach and who reached a high level. Tua was also very powerful, but he didn't have the fear factor Mike had.
It's one thing to be a good heavyweight at his height, it's another thing to be so powerful and quick.
I just think when people see a guy with ordinary height just smoking big dudes, it inspires a kind of awe. Mikey T was a special boxer.
I think he is. My Mrs and her brother met him at a weigh in years ago, and he towers over my brother in law who is around 6'1.
I expect the fight will start around midnight to 00.30 like Fury's last "fight".
A year or so ago I'd have Tyson as a strong favourite. But his last fight against Ngannou has brought a lot of questions, mainly around how he performed so poorly. An off day? Did he not take it seriously enough? Or is he just getting past his best?
I think it'll be an intriguing fight, and if he is just getting past his best then there's a good chance for Usyk.
The one aspect that gets overlooked in amongst all of this is that Usyk himself should have had an L himself against Dubois, where he was far from impressive.
All of these questions just add to the intrigue. I'm a big fan of Fury and I'm hoping he's at his best and gets the job done. He looks like he's in good shape so hopefully that's a good sign that he's took it seriously. I do have that nagging doubt though after his last fight. Somebody ran the stats against Ngannou and his output in terms of feints, foot movement, punches etc was way below the usual from him.
I agree in regards to I have no idea what Fury turns up. He looks a lot fitter than the last fight but that was so very bad I'm not sure he can step up again.
Maybe his best bet is to try and pretend he is fighting Wilder again and just go for it.
Thank you. I've been getting hyped recently as I've been involved in some of the Sky Sports promotions for the fight and it's getting me giddy. Gonna use that free box office Sky benefit to watch this one for sure!
Yeah that's my worry too, I'm nervous about the fight already. When he fought Wilder in the rematch I thought "no worries, just out box him again and get the win", but he kept telling us he'll knock him out etc. I was worried about the idea of trading with him, but he put on a bit if a clinic and he wrecked him twice after that. Ideal scenario is that he does the same again and gets the KO. But in my head I'm thinking again "use your advantages and just outbox him", in a similar fashion to his performance against Klitschko. Just don't give him anything, beat him to the jab, keep moving, smother any work from him and wear him down. Then if the opening arrives, go for the KO.
It's one fight that should be worth it. There's always the chance that it could turn out a bit drab, which these fights can do, but it will be interesting nonetheless as they're two technically good fighters. Could be a bit of a chess match but I think it depends on how Fury approaches it.
Was hoping the local would put it on but looks like they aren't bothering so gonna ask my brother if he fancies going halves on it at his house.
Even if it's a midnight start it's far better than a West coast 4am and this really is a generational fight.
Even if it's a midnight start it's far better than a West coast 4am and this really is a generational fight.
Fury's just too big for Usyk to really trouble him I think. The Ngannou fight was not taken seriously by him at all and he didn't look in good shape or sharp.
AJ taking him apart makes it look worse at first glance but to me, he took that a lot more seriously than he may have otherwise because of how much trouble he caused Fury. We've seen it countless times in sport that if you're not at your peak fitness and/or concentration it can all go wrong quite quickly. AJ also had the luxury of a full fight to analyse so he could prepare to exploit Ngannou"s weaknesses. Because of that I'd write off that farce of a fight against an MMA guy. I just don't see those as real fights. AJ showed what a joke a top level professional boxer fighting a non boxer is. Just like in an MMA fight Fury or AJ would be shown up.
If Fury has trained properly and is dialed in, which he appears to be, I don't see Usyk winning.
AJ taking him apart makes it look worse at first glance but to me, he took that a lot more seriously than he may have otherwise because of how much trouble he caused Fury. We've seen it countless times in sport that if you're not at your peak fitness and/or concentration it can all go wrong quite quickly. AJ also had the luxury of a full fight to analyse so he could prepare to exploit Ngannou"s weaknesses. Because of that I'd write off that farce of a fight against an MMA guy. I just don't see those as real fights. AJ showed what a joke a top level professional boxer fighting a non boxer is. Just like in an MMA fight Fury or AJ would be shown up.
If Fury has trained properly and is dialed in, which he appears to be, I don't see Usyk winning.
He seems to be around 6'7" or so, there's enough pictures of him next to other fighters throughout the years like Wilder, Ngannou, Alex Pereira to deduce that he's definitely not 6'9" as claimed.
I can't see anything but a Fury win unfortunately. I think he's too big for Usyk.
Agree. I think Usyk is the better boxer but think this will be the fight that size hampers him because Fury is technically up there unlike previous fighters he's been in with.
Fury looks incredible it has too be said! I don’t think I’ve seen him look this lean since his younger fighting days, that tells me he’s in focus mode big time
Usyk for all his brilliance won’t stand a chance against a lean fit focused hungry Fury imo
I just don’t see it
John Fury is dragging the Fury camp and the sport through the sewage though
Usyk for all his brilliance won’t stand a chance against a lean fit focused hungry Fury imo
I just don’t see it
John Fury is dragging the Fury camp and the sport through the sewage though
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Nice one, thanks bud.
He has more than a chance - in fact, I think he'll beat Fury. You really never know in boxing between good fighters, but Usyk is a once in a life time talent, and as I've said, the size difference doesn't look as big when you look at them together. That pendulum stance and footwork Usyk adopts is a problem. Cruiserweights didn't have the speed or skill to nullify it, so not sure how any heavyweight will deal with him. His engine is insane so he can keep it up through a fight.
He's also had good experience now in the Heavyweight scene. Again, can't be 100% on these things but I actually think Usyk will pull of a dominant win.