JP77
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Insane fight so far, quality from both and brilliant pace.
Beterbiev does look vulnerable in some fights but he finds a way. Very consistent, heavy handed power. It seems to come naturally to him, his ordinary shots hurt fighters.
Credit to Yarde, would have beaten most fighters at world level tonight. Tough guy.
Yeah, I think Bivol is a pretty horrendous matchup for him in terms of styles. Bivol is so precise, his defence is tight. Not a massive puncher but enough to get respect and I think he would exploit so many of the openings Beterbiev presents. I doubt Beterbiev is worried about facing anyone personally, you'd always back yourself with the power he has but I just think Bivol is not an easy guy to stop and even harder to outbox.The Callum Johnson fight should have shown that Beterbiev is vulnerable. Very fun fighter, but I don't think he'll really want any part of Bivol.
The Callum Johnson fight should have shown that Beterbiev is vulnerable. Very fun fighter, but I don't think he'll really want any part of Bivol.
Hey @Inter Yer Nan long time no speak! I wanted to ask you if you still stand by this or has anything changed? Also, you don't have Hearns in any division, but all of the other big 4?For those interested in Boxing history and perhaps some debate I put up my top 5's from the original 8 weight classes. Keep in mind it's not necessarily who'd beat who head-to-head more the level of accomplishments, opponents and how they measure in their era relative to all-time both skills-wise and competition-wise. I'd be interested to see others lists.
Heavyweight
1. Muhammad Ali (USA)
2. Joe Louis (USA)
3. Jack Johhnson (USA)
4. Rocky Marciano (USA)
5. Larry Holmes (USA)
Light-Heavyweight
1. Ezzard Charles (USA)
2. Archie Moore (USA)
3. Michael Spinks (USA)
4. Tommy Loughran (USA)
5. Gene Tunney (USA)
Middleweight
1. Harry Greb (USA)
2. Carlos Monzon (Argentina)
3. Sugar Ray Robinson (USA)
4. Marvelous Marvin Hagler (USA)
5. Stanley Ketchel (USA)
Welterweight
1. Sugar Ray Robinson (USA)
2. Kid Gavilan (Cuba)
3. Sugar Ray Leonard (USA)
4. Jose Napoles (Cuba)
5. Emile Griffith (Virgin Islands)
Lightweight
1. Benny Leonard (USA)
2. Joe Gans (USA)
3. Carlos Ortiz (Puerto Rico)
4. Roberto Duran (Panama)
5. Pernell Whitaker (USA)
Featherweight
1. Willie Pep (USA)
2. Sandy Saddler (USA)
3. Salvador Sanchez (Mexico)
4. Abe Attell (USA)
5. Vicente Saldivar (Mexico)
Bantamweight
1. Eder Jofre (Brazil)
2. Ruben Olivares (Mexico)
3. Carlos Zarate (Mexico)
4. Manuel Ortiz (USA)
5. Panama Al Brown (Panama)
Flyweight
1. Jimmy Wilde (Wales)
2. Miguel Canto (Mexico)
3. Pascual Perez (Argentina)
4. Pancho Villa (Phillipines)
5. Benny Lynch (Scotland)
Pound for Pound top 10
1. Sugar Ray Robinson (USA)
2. Henry Armstrong (USA)
3. Harry Greb (USA)
4. Sam Langford (Canada)
5. Willie Pep (USA)
6. Roberto Duran (Panama)
7. Eder Jofre (Brazil)
8. Ezzard Charles (USA)
9. Benny Leonard (USA)
10. Carlos Ortiz (Puerto Rico)
Obviously very open for debate and occasionally the lists change a little bit since so many great fighters are hard to separate. Some modern-era fighters like Roy Jones, Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquaio, Juan Manuel Marquez etc; are clearly great and even better than some of the fighters on the lists but due to this being a 17 division, 4 belt era often move around more and don't get the same kind of lengthy stranglehold on divisions as in the past.
Hearns, I’d say pound-for-pound and head-to-head would rate higher than he does in any divisional ranking as he never stayed long enough to make a top 5 in any division IMO.Hey @Inter Yer Nan long time no speak! I wanted to ask you if you still stand by this or has anything changed? Also, you don't have Hearns in any division, but all of the other big 4?
Haha. Re-do!?Hearns, I’d say pound-for-pound and head-to-head would rate higher than he does in any divisional ranking as he never stayed long enough to make a top 5 in any division IMO.
There’s some of my own picks here I’d not quite agree with anymore but for the most part, I’d keep most of it the same.
Eubank will & it's his call on invoking it. Smith will relish it as he'll be able to put it on in Liverpool. Sky will love it as they can build the hype. I can see the value in them putting on a rematch, however I didn't pay for the first fight so I probably wouldn't pay for the second.
I don’t see a rematch benefiting anyone really myself. Was such an emphatic defeat. I don’t think anyone would want to try and promote that!
Anyone see the Wood v Lara fight? Fair stoppage from the corner?
Anyone see the Wood v Lara fight? Fair stoppage from the corner?
Jake Paul will win. Annoyingly he’s the better boxer.Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury this weekend. I'd be surprised if Jake Paul doesn't win.
I disagree. That’s not to say he won’t win though as he can punch a bit and is the naturally bigger guy.Jake Paul will win. Annoyingly he’s the better boxer.
I thought Tommy was bigger? Anyway…should be an interesting fight. Tommys got a lot of pressure to deal with.I disagree. That’s not to say he won’t win though as he can punch a bit and is the naturally bigger guy.
Is this based on all the professional boxers Jake has fought?Jake Paul will win. Annoyingly he’s the better boxer.
Obviously not. From watching the both them fight.Is this based on all the professional boxers Jake has fought?