The RedCafe Boxing Thread

Gentleman Jim said:
There’s none of the current crop of heavyweights who I would fancy to trouble Peak Ali, Holmes, Lewis or Tyson.
Given a level playing field as far as training regimes and “supplements” are concerned I would stake a lot of money on any of the above being victorious over any of Fury, Joshua, Usyk or Wilder.
Some of today‘s fighters could stand up to greats of the past but not at Heavyweight I think.
Would be interesting to know if any of the posters talking up Fury and co. were actually alive when my picks were dominating the HW scene?
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It's hard to say, at the end of the day they're all legends for a reason so there shouldn't be any certainties.

Cunningham put Tyson over! So there's always a possibility a raging, peak Tyson who was a force of nature puts him over for good and he's the quintessential finisher. But it's a massive size difference, that's a problem as the fight progresses. I don't like Mike if he doesn't get it done early because Fury will be leaning all over him, sapping his energy. 2 different weight classes really.

Lewis and Holmes have a chance due to their great jabs. They're snappier than Tyson's. But I'd lean more towards Lewis having a far better chance due to size. I think Larry is a bit small to be winning a jabbing/ranged battle. So he doesn't really match up well in my opinion. Whereas Lewis was very rounded, more fluid than Fury, just an expert boxer puncher. I think he's one of the few in history with a chance to pick up the rounds against Fury and he also has the power to end it.

I don't really like Ali's chances, once again due to size. I can't really envisage a way that it's a good fight for him.

I think the biggest threats are Lewis, and prime Vitali Klitschko. There's a common theme there. Size, and boxing ability so that Fury doesn't have any big advantage in the fight.
 
It's definitely intriguing though. Don't think Fury has faced anyone with the workrate of Usyk.
 
SuperiorXI said:
Then he got up and battered him though, and that was a rusty Fury. Fury's stamina is elite level.
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Exactly, but I was replying to a question has anyone "pushed the pace against Fury" and I give the last round knock down as an example.
 
Hope they come down on Liam Smith quite hard. Goading Eubank about being gay. Disgusting prick.
 
SilentWitness said:
Hope they come down on Liam Smith quite hard. Goading Eubank about being gay. Disgusting prick.
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I hope Eubank sparks that gobshite clean out. Clearly Smith doesn’t possess the wit to retort with anything decent so has to resort to petty playground insults of 20yr ago, “you’re gay!” Yeah, good one. Pathetic.
 
Eubank’s career is so weird. Long spells of inactivity, never won a legit world title and yet he talks like he’s a superstar and has the ability to make fights easy to control. He’s barely beaten anyone decent and I genuinely don’t remember him knocking anyone out clean.

He’s a good athlete and has inherited his dad’s concrete head but he looks technically poor and dozes off in fights.

His sparring on the Behind the gloves was terrible.
 
G-manc said:
Eubank’s career is so weird. Long spells of inactivity, never won a legit world title and yet he talks like he’s a superstar and has the ability to make fights easy to control. He’s barely beaten anyone decent and I genuinely don’t remember him knocking anyone out clean.

He’s a good athlete and has inherited his dad’s concrete head but he looks technically poor and dozes off in fights.

His sparring on the Behind the gloves was terrible.
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Looked more like a technical spar. He was piecing the guy up when he was trying.

He's improved a lot under Roy Jones Jr.
 
I remember the reaction Eubank jr got after the Groves loss and people seemed to think he was done. He has had six fights after that loss and now he is in title contention and wants the big fights again. The people he has faced after his last loss aren't exactly great either. He beat a past it degale, and liam williams who had a very bad night and isn't more than an average fighter himself. Its weird boxing that you can go from being a poor fighter to a superstar after a string of a few fights.
 
He’s a talented guy but he’s made a lot of money without having to push himself. The fact this fight against Smith is PPV is a good example. It’s a good British scrap, nothing more.
 
Eubank is so bad. He's 33 years old and still not the slightest idea how to box.

Now he's too old to rely on his chin and awkwardness (he should definitely not be at 160 either) he's toast.
 
TheReligion said:
Don’t see the value in a rematch do you?

No one is going to pay for it
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Eubank will & it's his call on invoking it. Smith will relish it as he'll be able to put it on in Liverpool. Sky will love it as they can build the hype. I can see the value in them putting on a rematch, however I didn't pay for the first fight so I probably wouldn't pay for the second.
 
F-Red said:
Eubank will & it's his call on invoking it. Smith will relish it as he'll be able to put it on in Liverpool. Sky will love it as they can build the hype. I can see the value in them putting on a rematch, however I didn't pay for the first fight so I probably wouldn't pay for the second.
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I don’t see a rematch benefiting anyone really myself. Was such an emphatic defeat. I don’t think anyone would want to try and promote that!
 
Yarde vs Beterbiev tomorrow night. Not sure I can see any outcome other than Yarde getting his head stove in by Beterbievs iron fists
 
T00lsh3d said:
Yarde vs Beterbiev tomorrow night. Not sure I can see any outcome other than Yarde getting his head stove in by Beterbievs iron fists
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Yarde is a gifted and powerful enough offensive fighter to make it a very interesting fight for me. I still think Beterbiev will wreck him though, particularly if the fight makes it into the later rounds. Looking forward to this one a lot.
 
Port Vale Devil said:
Should be a banger. No time to grab a beer or make a cuppa during rounds
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Pat_Mustard said:
Yarde is a gifted and powerful enough offensive fighter to make it a very interesting fight for me. I still think Beterbiev will wreck him though, particularly if the fight makes it into the later rounds. Looking forward to this one a lot.
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Yeah should be some fireworks. I mean, it won’t obviously be the sheer boxing spectacle that Jake Paul and Tommy Fury will be…if the boxing media’s excitement is to be believed….but hopefully it’ll still be watchable
 
T00lsh3d said:
Yeah should be some fireworks. I mean, it won’t obviously be the sheer boxing spectacle that Jake Paul and Tommy Fury will be…if the boxing media’s excitement is to be believed….but hopefully it’ll still be watchable
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Actually quite nice it isn’t a PPV fight. Not seen much hype about it but this could be one of the fights of the year even though it won’t go past the 6th.

Looking forward to this one
 
Has anyone watched any of Tyan Booth's boxing livestreams over the past year or two? They're possibly one of the most bizarre thing's I've ever seen on the Internet.

Be Safe.
 
Looking forward to the BT show tonight. Big ask for Yarde but he doesn’t lack confidence.

Looking forward to seeing Tommy Fletcher again too. Seems to be blessed with freakish power.
 
Will the fight be on after our game or will the two clash?

What time is the expected ringwalk?
 
M15 Red. said:
Has anyone watched any of Tyan Booth's boxing livestreams over the past year or two? They're possibly one of the most bizarre thing's I've ever seen on the Internet.

Be Safe.
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Link?
 
TwoSheds said:
Link?
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https://youtube.com/@TyFLTV

In a nutshell, it seems Tyan did a bit of work for Kugan Cassius in the early days of IFLTV before a dispute over money ended their relationship. Tyan then set up his own channel TYFLTV, which he uses to take the piss out of Kugan, Eddie Hearn, Joshua, Froch etc. There's even a merchandise section selling hoodies of Frochs brother Lee, mocking his alcohol addiction.

His livestreams mainly consist of him talking shit in his front room whilst getting drunk on echo falls, smoking weed and pissing in milk bottles. As I said above, it's all a bit bizarre.
 
this fight will be decided on whether yarde has the stamina for 12rounds, if he can keep it up then he has a chance.
 
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