Is Whyte really that much better? I am totally unimpressed by him. I think that he would win the fight, but don't think that he is such a monster as people here are making him.
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Think its time he retired now, don't believe for a second that he is serious about carrying on.
He's just too big for Bellew. Bellew isn't a heavyweight and although I don't like actually like Bellew, I'd be concerned for him if he fought Whyte. It won't happen though, all his talk about the wife and kids, no way he's stepping into the ring with genuine heavyweights at this stage of his career
I feel your pain, my man. Haye, particularly towards the end of his cruiser weight run, gave me some of my fondest adolescent boxing memories. He’s a shadow of that man now, unfortunately. He’ll never live this down.
Bellew 
Bellew
If you were not an Evertonian I'd be like ????
Haye says he'll watch the tape and make a decision, but there's nothing to decide.
Too many injuries have taken their toll over the years, he's a fraction too slow and that matters at this level
He wasn't "injured" and didn't con anyone
He's just the same as every other fighter that gets old and doesn't want to believe it
Too many injuries have taken their toll over the years, he's a fraction too slow and that matters at this level
He wasn't "injured" and didn't con anyone
He's just the same as every other fighter that gets old and doesn't want to believe it
At what point does a PPV just become robbery?
I feel like I could've beaten Haye tonight.. he put together two respectable rounds and that's it. He's done. I said earlier in this chat that he didn't seem up for it and despite predicting this right wrong (though Bellew would finish it in the last three rounds) it seems clear to me that he just wanted one last payday.
I feel like I could've beaten Haye tonight.. he put together two respectable rounds and that's it. He's done. I said earlier in this chat that he didn't seem up for it and despite predicting this right wrong (though Bellew would finish it in the last three rounds) it seems clear to me that he just wanted one last payday.
Am I the only one who didn't realise GGG was fighting last night?
I like to think I keep up with the latest boxing news, but heard absolutely nothing about this. Appreciate he was fighting a relative nobody but its a shame someone as good as him doesn't get the recognition or numbers he deserves.
As you'd expect, GGG by early stoppage.
I like to think I keep up with the latest boxing news, but heard absolutely nothing about this. Appreciate he was fighting a relative nobody but its a shame someone as good as him doesn't get the recognition or numbers he deserves.
As you'd expect, GGG by early stoppage.
I'm not understanding where this power came from in Bellew. In the last fight when haye was hobbling around on one leg he was catching him clean, but Haye took it.
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I had no idea that Whyte is 115kg. Heck, that is heavier than Joshua.
Bellew was able to time him in this fight, Haye left himself open on quite a few occasions. In the last fight, he was more in survival mode.
Yeah, he’s big and I don’t think Bellew has the skill to outmanoeuvre him....he’d just get pummelled
Wouldn't have fancied being Vanes taking them knockout punches last night 
GGG looking more and more beatable to me. Canelo messed up massively, I think he could beat him even without PEDs
Why? He absolutely destroyed the opponent last night. Hardly a top opponent, but why he looks more or less beatable than before?GGG looking more and more beatable to me. Canelo messed up massively, I think he could beat him even without PEDs
He got tagged plenty of times, but that's GGG, when your chin's made of granite, you can afford to take a hit. Just like against Kell, when he fights someone he knows cannot hurt him, he'll walk through punches to get his man.
Yeah, he just steps into punches. Probably also trying to understand how strong the opponent was (to be fair, Martirosyan punched very well).
If Canelo doesn't happen, I hope it will be Saunders after this.
What will GGG's legacy be when he retires?
Great boxer who will be remembered for his punching power, granit chin and KO streak, but nowhere near an all time great. Not his fault to be fair, people just avoided him cause he was too high of a risk with not great reward (not a large following base, probably cause of him being from Kazakhistan), but still, he for most part defeated nobodies.
“It was like being hit by a train,” Martirosyan said via RingTV. “It wasn’t one punch, but all of his punches. It was the hardest I’ve ever been hit.”
Bellew is far too small to be fighting Fury & I don't think Dillian Whyte is a particularly good idea either.
He'll be a slam dunk for the HoF, that would be under the new or old entry rules.
If Bellew fights Ward (do not see Ward interested in that fight to be fair) at what wight is it happening. Bellew yesterday was 20kg or so heavier than what Ward usually is. If he drops to light heavyweight, I see Ward demolishing him (similar to what Adonis did), but at cruiseweight it might be competitive to some degree.
I just watch him and think he's beatable. He comes forward and cuts off the ring well, but I think somebody with the technical skills will outbox him. He's become a mythical boxer through sparking bums so I don't think many will over commit to knocking him out just yet, but I do feel like the mask is slipping over his last few fights. Canelo messed up big time.
A monster who was avoided a bit too much to be an all-time great
I read somewhere that GGG was "only" getting 1 million for that fight. Compared to us common scum that's obviously a lot, but imagine how much money Haye got for losing that fight when he is clearly done at the top level and nothing was on the line. GGG is defending a pile of world titles and can't get big names OR big money fights, it's odd.
Yeah, it’s odd that he’s not had bigger fights, because it’s not as if he’s boring. Some really good fighters just don’t get the showcase fights because their style isn’t marketable enough. But GGG’s fights are always entertaining. I can only put it down to people not wanting to get in the ring with him
Almost certainly. The curse of boxing promoters strikes again.
Heavyweights generally get more interest than other divisions (of course, this is not always the case as we saw with De La Hoya, Mayweather and Pacquiao). And well, no one wants to get in ring with GGG so it is difficult for the fights to generate good money.
I think that before Canelo's fight, the biggest purse he got was something like 2m, and he got more than 10 amounts of that sum for Canelo fight (with Canelo getting significantly more). He will be fine, but it is a shame that he couldn't become a PPV superstar considering that he has been for such a long time a top 3 or so p4p boxer.
Charlo wants GGG and has consistently called him out and been ducked, and will probably continue to be.
David Haye has always been prepared to act the prize bellend to hype up fights and his profile. If GGG had the personality of someone like that he would have earned a lot more.
As a hall of fame fighter and one of the best of his era who was avoided until his mid to late 30's.
If he can beat Saunders, Canelo (again but get the decision) and say Charlo and/or Devreychenko then I think he's an all-time great.
Would be at Cruiser for Bellew’s WBC strap. Possibly at a catchweight but most likely at the full 200lb limit.
Lol Charlo only started calling him out like a few months ago. He has no promotion driving his stock so has to do a lot of the shit-talking himself.
Nah, Golovkin’s biggest problem is that he’s a Kazakh fighting in the States. He has a great personality and a really admirable boxing style; but Nationality will always play the biggest part in how big of a draw you are.
It's not GGG's problem that everybody has been too much of a pussy to fight him until he's well into his thirties hoping that he's well past his best.
Better to say GGG had bigger fish to fry and nothing to gain re. Charlo.
Charlo's voice is just becoming louder to the audience at large because of exposure via wins; it's not a few months, rather there's an undeniable resonance now. He's a problem in the division that others will have to face or let go by them.
It is though. Not fair, but it is the way how the world works. When people look at his legacy, they'll see a boxer who hasn't defeated any hall of famer on his career. That is problematic.
I think that there have been many boxers who were great but people avoided them, and no one remember their names. Charley Burley for example apparently was ducked from most top boxers, and he never received a title shot, Sugar Ray Robinson was ducked by many too and needed more than 70 fights to get a title shot. Archie Moore needed 16 years of winning in order to get his title shot.
In GGG's case, it is a bit different cause he isn't chasing a title, instead he holds the belts. It also doesn't help that middleweight is a poor division, with not many quality boxers.
Sure it wouldn't be a problem for him to drop to super-welterweight/welterweight would it?
Likely, they would have avoided him even more. Can you imagine Mayweather, Pacquiao and co. getting in ring with him? I cannot. He doesn't bring too much money, and they could have easily finished sleeping in those matches, so too much a risk for not such a high reward. Him not jumping one or two weight classes up is another thing though, and there likely he could have got some good matches, but honestly, I think that the likes of Ward and Kovalel would have destroyed him in light heavyweight and likely defeat him in super middleweight. He should have tried it though when it became clear that no one in middleweight wants to have anything to do with him.
A continuing problem in boxing. Desperately needs to be a system in place.