The RedCafe Boxing Thread

I couldn't really care less about it not being big outside the UK. It'll be a good British fight before a passionate crowd. Neither man is a true heaveyweight imo, certainly Bellew isn't and I'd argue Haye isn't as well, although he's done well since he came into the division. It's a weak division, a strong, fully fit Haye could still make a run at the title. We won't know where he's at until fight night, but so weak is the division right now, a performance here and he's back in the mix. I think this is probably Bellew's last fight, certainly at this weight anyway. If Hayes loses again I think he's done, so I think both men will put it all on the line. Should be a good fight to watch.

Yeah, fair enough. Its a decent 'domestic' level fight but no more than that.
Haye:s always has been a cruiserweight stepping up in a weak division. He's got speed but lacks any power against the big guys.

Haye has flattered to deceibe more times than I can remember that I long ago gave up on him doing anything on the world level again. I thought Bellew was spot on when he said Haye doesn't give a crap about boxing, never mind titles. It's obvious. All about the payday. To that end, I have zero faith, even if he wins convincingly against Bellew, that he'll do anything against any of the current contenders.
 
I don't think Haye's heart is in it at all. And IF he is injured, which is not very unlikely with Haye, he'll do everything humanly possible not to disclose it as this is almost definitely his last payday.

I'm only a casual boxing fan, but Bellew to win in the later rounds seems likely to me, I reckon Haye will try knock him out early on or otherwise gas.

14/1 for Bellew from rounds 10-12 seems good in my mind.
 
Interesting from Haye re the weight. Maybe he wants to take it into the later rounds, maybe he's going to try and use his boxing as opposed to the last time where he just launched clubbing haymakers and missed wildly. I have him rounds 4-6, might have to do another bet now
 
Interesting from Haye re the weight. Maybe he wants to take it into the later rounds, maybe he's going to try and use his boxing as opposed to the last time where he just launched clubbing haymakers and missed wildly. I have him rounds 4-6, might have to do another bet now
Doesn't bode well for Bellew if he does. Even swinging wildly he was comfortably about in the fight.
 
Haye looks much better this time for me. I hope he does it can’t stand bellew milking beating him twice I don’t think
 
Haye looks much better this time for me. I hope he does it can’t stand bellew milking beating him twice I don’t think
It's everyone pretending Bellew deserved that win that gets me. Bellew saying the tide was turning in the first before the injury was also ridiculous. If anything Haye was starting to warm up.
 
It's everyone pretending Bellew deserved that win that gets me. Bellew saying the tide was turning in the first before the injury was also ridiculous. If anything Haye was starting to warm up.
Bellew also seems to forget that Haye won a couple of rounds on one leg too. :lol:
 
Haye looks in very good nick.
If he's as focused as he says he is it could be a clinic tomorrow.
I still won't trust him just yet though, need to see at least a round first.
 
When does he not look in ‘good nick’?

This is the best he's looked since his comeback. True he's always had a good body but the fact he's near a stone lighter this time tells a story.
I think he knocks bellew out in the last quarter
 
i think a fully fit haye is decent opposition for any of the heavyweights, problem is he very rarely is fully fit and often does have some form of injury going into a fight. Im definitely hoping he wins tomorrow, cant stand the hype bellew has had since he won the first fight. I know Haye has said he wants to break bellew down and go the distance, but i can see this being over quickly. If Haye catches him early he will pounce all over him as he normally does and it will be game over.
 
I think Haye will win tonight but i have no time for him whatsoever. He rolls out the same spiel before every fight in an attempt to stay relevant.

It beggars belief that this is a PPV.

Fast Eddie will be desperate for Haye to win so he can coin it in from the casuals for a Joshua fight.
 
I think Haye will win tonight but i have no time for him whatsoever. He rolls out the same spiel before every fight in a desperate attempt to stay relevant.

It beggars belief that this is a PPV.

"Another great night for British boxing."
 
"Another great night for British boxing."
The sh*t that SKY have rolled out this week has been embarrassing especially the stupid flow charts based on who has the biggest social media popularity etc. like it has a bearing on the fight.

'This fight has really captured the publics imagination'.

No, no it hasn't.
 
The sh*t that SKY have rolled out this week has been embarrassing especially the stupid flow charts based on who has the biggest social media popularity etc. like it has a bearing on the fight.

'This fight has really captured the publics imagination'.

No, no it hasn't.

:lol: My partners family is actually buying it... :eek::wenger::confused:
 
I honestly think if Haye marches straight to the centre of the ring and establishes his jab, it’s his fight to lose. He was utterly compromised in the first fight and Bellew seemingly didn’t have the sauce to really hurt him, which Haye has alluded to in the build up to this fight. I fancy him to walk Bellew onto something somewhere between rounds 6-10 and get the finish. Like I said though, all stems from the jab. Shot selection then allows for Haye to either smash up the body, like he has suggested. Alternatively, one the jab is established look for him to look for openings to switch it to the left hook and big right straight down the pipe.

I just need to see Bellew smashed again, he was the quintessential soup sandwich against Adonis Stevenson and I need a repeat of that.
 
In all honesty I’m actually looking forward to it.

It won’t be a classic. Haye is past his best and Bellew isn’t that great but I am looking forward to the fight. Maybe it shouldn’t be on PPV but the last one did good numbers and this will to I imagine. My mate has ordered it so I suppose there is a market for it!!
 
So it has captured the public’s imagination? Eddie Hearn is a genius.

I think people don’t like to admit it but we all get caught up in the marketing and selling of the fights.

People like Hearn (along with Haye and Bellew) do deserve some kind of credit for getting interest in this fight. I reckon it’ll do good numbers, whilst I think some people may not admit i think it’s got more attention the people let on. Equally if Haye wins dominantly I think there will be massive interest in a Joshua fight, it’ll do huge money and is probably s bigger fight than the Wilder one for all involved
 
I think Haye will win tonight but i have no time for him whatsoever. He rolls out the same spiel before every fight in an attempt to stay relevant.

It beggars belief that this is a PPV.

Fast Eddie will be desperate for Haye to win so he can coin it in from the casuals for a Joshua fight.
Only realised it was PPV today. My god, I assumed it wasn't and more about teeing up a big PPV for Haye-Joshua, assuming Haye wins.
What time is it meant to start?
 
Only realised it was PPV today. My god, I assumed it wasn't and more about teeing up a big PPV for Haye-Joshua, assuming Haye wins.
What time is it meant to start?
The first fight was PPV too, and did good numbers apparently. I expect this one to not do as well but still put up solid numbers. David Haye will always be a PPV fighter unless he’s fighting an absolute no-name.
 
The first fight was PPV too, and did good numbers apparently. I expect this one to not do as well but still put up solid numbers. David Haye will always be a PPV fighter unless he’s fighting an absolute no-name.
I guess it's more Bellew being part of a PPV that's the big shocker tbh. I streamed the first one and I aint paying for this one.
 
I'm getting together with a gang of mates to watch it we'll pay for it jointly so couple of quid each. Is the card worth a ppv? Probably not but it'll be a bit of entertainment to accompany the beer and cheaper than a night out. Looking forward to it, I'm still a haye fan from the early days and I really hope he brings his a game
 
I'd imagine ring walks will be 9.45 or so
Just saw that someone called "Money Powell IV" is on the bill :lol: