Ref was awful, but I'm still not that convinced by Joshua tbh. I like the guy a lot, but i find him just so underwhelming.
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Fair enough!
I should've worded that better.
He knows how to sell a fight is what I meant. No way was this PPV worthy.
8-4 seems reasonable, 10-2/11-1 is a joke, but not surprising. Essentially, every even round went to Joshua.
This proves quite well, that it was way closer than the refs gave it. Joshua was the better boxer and deserved the win, but it wasn't wide at all.
Would beat him.
it was pathetic from joshua. i don't remember w worth while attack from himcome on then. Tell me who all these quality boxers are that Parker has faced. Tell me Joshua threw even a quarter of the power shots he does in a standard fight. Actually look at the fight.
Wilder has the reach and power to rattle Joshua. Joshua looked good for 12 rounds today because of how little Parker could bother him in terms of breaching his defense. Against an opponent of his same size and power it would be an entirely different fight and a lot more eventful too.
It was a huge gap. Boring as feck fight but the huge majority of the quality came from Joshua.
Joshua has enough power to put Wilder to sleep, and Wilder essentially has no defense. Parker is a much better boxer than Wilder for example, though Wilder obviously has that big shot so can defeat anyone.
Italian s referees and judges have a very specific style to judge and referee. They won´t allow any in-fighting and they love amateurish clean jabfests. If you want a fight with lots of infighing you get an American referee. So you can assume AJ´s team wanted it that way. Given the talent and size gap Parker´s only hope was to make it a fight, not a chess match.
Joshua wouldn’t toucj him until Fury can prove he’s capable of getting to the ring. Joshua can be an excellent draw without Fury. Sure, the Fury fighter would be the biggest in UK history, but Fury can’t be taken seriously again yet.
He doesn't care. You're nuts if you think he'd fight like this against Fury or Wilder. This was a complete mismatch and Joshua could have stepped up at any point. He simply did not need to. It's the equivalent of passing the ball around at the back in the second leg with a 2-0 lead.
I don’t agree. I had it 116-112 but the rounds I gave to Parker were perhaps generous. AJ controlled the centre of the ring all fight and won the battle of the jabs all fight. These are the most fundamental things in boxing. If you give up those things you need to do a lot more than Parker.
He did nothing, never threatened Parker, never gave a big punch. Stats show that he had just a slight advantage in punches thrown (and landed), so why on Earth he should get every even round (and based on the ref, even the sixth round which was clear Parker). He was in control and so deserves the win, but he showed feck all to get 118/119 points.
True and I think he could work around Joshua's jab but like I said Wilder is a powerful boxer but perhaps not technically the greatest. Joshua wins fights by just overpowering people but I don't think he'd do that against Wilder and certainly not Fury who would have height and reach advantage which Joshua would never have experienced before in his boxing career.
Ortiz also had more than enough KO power and it didn't help him, despite the fact that he fought on the front foot all night. Wilder/AJ is one of those fights you would have to throw how technically good or bad a fighter is out the window - it would simply be a matter of who makes contact. Wilder showed me more in that regard last month.
Guess Im by myself enjoying that fight.
I don't understand why Joshua would settle for that shitfest rather than putting the other fellow to sleep though if what you say is true? Why do you think that is?
I agree, Povetkin would be a more dangerous opponent than Wilder. Wilder always has a chance because of the raw power he has, but his footwork & boxing skills are meh.
A fit Fury and Wilder are 50-50 fights with AJ for me. I would be fascinated to see how they play out. Fury ain’t coming back though unless he’s flat broke and even then he will just be there to clear his debts.
I'm not saying that AJ couldn't knock Parker out. I'm saying that he didn't get a chance to. Not because AJ chose not to. It's a heavyweight division, one wrong move and - it's lights out! I'm sure AJ just wanted to beat him. I watched the fight. It was ruined by the ref. If the fight had a more experienced referee then we could have well seen a KO/TKO. It wasn't to be. It was a shite fight that didn't really prove anything for Joshua. Not entierly his fault. With referee interfering, it completely destroyed the fluidity and the pace. They could have been there for 24 rounds.
Anyway, I doubt you're going to change your mind and I don't think I'll change mine. So lets just agree to disagree, shall we?
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how much of Joshuas fights have been PPV worthy? Klitschko that's it.
Barry Hearn is the shrewd one, the son loves the limelight.
It makes no sense. Of course that he would have KO Parker if he could. He KO every boxer in his career, what exactly he has to prove by not KO someone?
Does it really?
This basically says Joshua landed 12 punches per round and Parker landed 8 punches per round. With so little output that´s a big difference. I´m not going to argue whether the scorecards were right or wrong, just that the compubox numbers are not a very effective counterargument in this case.
Because that isn't how fights are scored? Every clean punch came from Joshua. Joshua controlled the centre of the ring and the pace for the entire fight. It was a ridiculously comfortable win, hence why almost every expert had it at a wide margin.
i think so too
Unbeaten in 21, 20 by KO, 4 belts and he didn’t even take boxing up until he was 18. And yet you’re underwhelmed by him?!?!
If winning easy is boring, then why the feck would AJ care. Not every fight can be a war.
Parker throw and landed more power punches (to be fair, they were very close), which usually matters more. Joshua landed more jabs, but now that much more to get 10 or 11 rounds.
Aye, seems like Revan must be rather new to boxing.
Joshua landed more punches in nearly every round, commanded the centre of the ring, was more accurate and hit cleaner. Of course he wins pretty much every round, that’s how boxing scoring works.
Klitschko is the only big name on his list (and he was 40, already beaten). No one rated Parker, and if you look further, his other big win is against Dillian fecking Whyte who is nothing special.
He is trying to improve his technical boxing and perhaps he was a little too safe. He could have thrown caution to the wind but that isn’t what he’s aiming to do.
That's bollocks. He looked better technically in the fights he won by KO.
Don't get me wrong mate, his record is incredible. I know that. And i really like the guy, perhaps i'm being too harsh, but i don't know...just doesn't do it for me i guess. I just don't get much excitement from watching him.
Just how i feel.
There is winning comfortably and then there is barely throwing any punches. AJ's brand is built on him being an entertaining fighter.. so fights like this (if they were a regular occurrence) would not be good for him from a PR perspective.
How can you come to that conclusion? I trust you've seen Joshua fight plenty of times, he's more than capable of playing the aggressor and finding openings. He did it against Klitschko who is a better technican defensively than Parker. You can't watch that fight and not see the contrasting approach from AJ. How many times did we see Joshua go after Parker and come up punching air? He didn't go after Parker, he didn't need to.I'm not saying that AJ couldn't knock Parker out. I'm saying that he didn't get a chance to. Not because AJ chose not to. It's a heavyweight division, one wrong move and - it's lights out! I'm sure AJ just wanted to beat him. I watched the fight. It was ruined by the ref. Had the fight a more experienced referee been there we could have well seen a KO/TKO. It wasn't to be. It was a shite fight that didn't really prove anything for Joshua. Not entierly his fault, with referee interfering, it completely destroyed the fluidity and the pace. The could have been there for 24 rounds.
Anyway, I doubt you're going to change your mind and I don't think I'll change mine. So lets just agree to disagree, shall we?
Joshua couldn't wait to tell everyone in the post match that he went 12 rounds. He's been criticised repeatedly throughout his career for his ability to go the distance. We all know he can blast boxers out of the ring.
Have watched pretty much every big fight (not including sub 140 fights) taken place in the last 20 years or so. I am saying that Joshua should have win but by 10/11 round no fecking way. Rounds 5 and 6 were clear from Parker, and neither boxer showed anything at all in the first 4 round. Round 7 again was close as was round 8. Joshua had his silent domination in the last 4 rounds and deserved to get them by virtue of staying in the center, but I just hate this way of scoring when every even round goes to the same boxer. Here it didn't change anything, but it robbed Kovalev from titles, and it stole the victory from GGG.
Joshua is nowhere near as good as most people think. Poor head and foot movement and does tend to gas out in the middle rounds. Luckily for him the rest of the HW division is awful too so hes got plenty of time to work on all this and dominate for a long time. Think these sort of fighters he struggles against, so Fury would be a nightmare for him (assuming he gets back to his best). He'll beat Deontay I think, as he is more suited to Joshua and has a poor defence.
He boxed a technically sound fight tonight by out jabbing his opponent and controlling the centre of the ring. Technical boxing isn’t going out there and banging. It is best summarised as hitting whilst not getting hit.
Joshua wins another world title with barely a blemish on his face, yet people want to say he ain’t doing it right. Look at Price earlier for how not to fight with “bravery” and manage a promising career.