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Great fight between two classy boxers. AJ is lacks a bit of experience and will only get better. Wladimir is also past his peak, but his experience and variation in his game tonight really impressed me.
Would love a rematch, although I can see AJ only getting better and further pushing the distance between them. It was like passing on the mantle tonight.
Would love a rematch, although I can see AJ only getting better and further pushing the distance between them. It was like passing on the mantle tonight.
He doesn't need to be. Thats why he has a trainer. He can lose plenty of pounds without much worry.
Fury is a much faster boxer then Joshua and Klitschko for that matter. If Fury is motivated and wants it, he'll have watched Joshua tonight and he would have seen a man who's showed lots of weaknesses.
And he's head movement is so poor, I thought it would have learned from after what White did to him but once again he left himself open
You're picking one fight out of his entire career and disregarding everything else. It's like watching Heskey do step overs and saying he schooled the football world. Being great once doesn't nullify everything else you ever did.
Well, I don't know why they hate to score rounds 10-10, but the thing is, if 4 rounds are even, then it is incredibly unfair to score all four of them for the same boxer.
Also, in the first two rounds (especially the second), Wlad had the initiative. They were barely hitting each other, but Wlad was attacking most of the time. How does Joshua gets both of them?
The other possibility is of course if they scored the fifth round 10-8 for Joshua. Joshua knocked down Wlad, but Wlad came strong in the second part of the round and almost knocked down Joshua. That round should have been 10-9 for Joshua IMO.
I had the same score as the third ref. The Sky - despite being English and biased toward AJ - had Klitschko leading by one point.
Foreman won the belt at 45 or older, Hopkins won the belt at the ripe age of 49.
Think Wlad did enough to not lose the round. Scored it 9-9
A quick google search will answer that. He has offended swathes of society with his, er, 'out there' views on certain issues.
The love-in? Virtually every post in the past 5 pages has been filled with buzzword condemning.
acheivement*
Incredible fight. Wlad is a true legend.
One performance against a longtime raining world champion in multiple sanctioning bodies.
41 isn't that crazy old in boxing, especially the heavyweight division as the fights are slower paced than the smaller weight divisions. George Foreman famously won a world title at 45 against 26 year old Michael Moorer. More recently Bernard Hopkins won a world title at light heavyweight aged 48.
Proof that boxing can be entertaining even without dressing up like a halfwit, saying outrageous things or being a general abscess on the arse of humanity.
Boxing takes place inside the ring, and the participants can be equally classy when outside of it. Fair play.
Boxing takes place inside the ring, and the participants can be equally classy when outside of it. Fair play.
nah AJ won it by one in the power punches I think? He should get +1 for the knockout. To me Joshua was better from rounds 1-5, then it was Wlad from 6-10 where AJ managed to hang in the match and then Wlad was really spent in round 11.
Joshua is very fast and has twice the power. He wont be able to run away from Joshua forever, and as soon as Joshua gets in close Tysons lack of chin will be his downfall.
I really don't get why they virtually never score rounds a draw either. I get that they like to see aggression, but if neither fighter lands a meaningful punch, surely it's much of a muchness? Get what you mean about if you have several of those rounds- you'd think they'd try and even it up.
10-8 typically means dominating the round by a large margin. You can get a 10-8 even without knock downing the other boxer (Pacquiao had a 10-8 vs De La Hoya despite that he didn't knock down him). You can also get a 10-9 if you knock down someone, but he comes back strong.
Wlad almost knocked down Joshua on the same round. On the last 2 minutes, it was all about Wlad. I think that it should have been 10-9 for Joshua, heck someone might even say 10-10, but no way it was 10-8.
Sixth round was easily 10-8. Joshua went down and barely survived the round.
9-9 is not even a score! One has to have 10!
Every dog has his day. You've got to be fair and consistent, and not just ignore everything else he's ever done just because he did one thing once.
That 11th round feeling was as amazing as Nou Camp 99.
so much testosterone everywhere, could smell it everywhere.
mindblowing atmosphere and worth every penny.
A new king is born
so much testosterone everywhere, could smell it everywhere.
mindblowing atmosphere and worth every penny.
A new king is born
A fight where his opponent was displacement and demotivated. I fancied Klitschko for the rematch with Fury.
Joshua beats a 41 year old man at Wembley with Eddie Hearn setting it all up, and lets be honest we all thought, during the fight, that Wlad was on with a chance of winning it. Fury and possibly even Alabama WBC boy or even Haye if he can ever stop being Darren Anderon or Owen Hargreaves, will own him. Can't wait.
Tonight I was jumping up and down when Wlad put him down on his arse in London. These Gary Cornish, Martins, Brazileessesssess just didn't measure up to the hype. A 35 year old Wlad or any year old Vitali puts AJ away. Tyson Fury owns them all.
Tonight I was jumping up and down when Wlad put him down on his arse in London. These Gary Cornish, Martins, Brazileessesssess just didn't measure up to the hype. A 35 year old Wlad or any year old Vitali puts AJ away. Tyson Fury owns them all.
Yep, but a 41 year old Vlad who put him down once and was up on the cards before the KO. The movement troubled him all fight and despite Fury's size and conditioning he is a good mover around the ring with arguably a better jab then Vlad. Fury can move and dictate a fight off the back foot better than most of the current new generation of heavyweights.
I would at this stage make Fury the slight favorite if they met.
Joshua better not let this W go into his head, he has some issues he needs to improve, the biggest of which is his head movement, he's way too stiff always trying to counter and it's making him an easy target, Klitchko was landing that left jab all night with ease.
Foreman was a massive one off though. The body just loses its ability of explosive cardio once you get into your 30s, much less late 30s, much less early 40s. For Klitschko to even compete at this age is incredible. For him to knock AJ down and take the fight that deep is even more impressive.
Have to give massive respect to both fighters.
Wlad for a tremendous performance given his age was still dancing in the tenth - absolute chalk and cheese to his performance against fury
For joshua pretty much everything the doubters have levelled at him prior to tonight has been answered. Monsterous finish
Brilliant fight, I'm still buzzing off it it, fantastic bout. It had everything
Hope wlad carries on, he beats wilder and Parker for me, could snag a belt then set up a rematch
Wlad for a tremendous performance given his age was still dancing in the tenth - absolute chalk and cheese to his performance against fury
For joshua pretty much everything the doubters have levelled at him prior to tonight has been answered. Monsterous finish
Brilliant fight, I'm still buzzing off it it, fantastic bout. It had everything
Hope wlad carries on, he beats wilder and Parker for me, could snag a belt then set up a rematch
AJ will only get better, he lacked a bit experience tonight and it was understandable. It will be interesting if he plays Povetkin or another more technical boxer, although he will have him on distance. IMO AJ will beat Fury, has too much power and the latter won't survive that long as Wlad tonight.
So you're saying Fury won by luck and not his brilliant performance? When you completely shut down Klitchko who's known for his devastating KO's, movement and technique, trust me that has nothing to do with luck.
I understand from your comments that you really despise Fury therefore I wish not to enter any discussion, would be pointless.
10-10 then
This fight has been a massive boost to boxing as a sport. Felt like a throwback to when heavyweight boxing was king.
Have you seen the improvement, though? The glaring weakness of being as stiff as a board was as prevalent in this fight as all of his previous.
Fair play to Wlad, he has always been a supreme athlete, similar to Bernard Hopkins.
Agree for a bunch of rounds, but not the knockdown round.10-10 then
I had it level going into the 11th, although I can easily see how judges could have it 1-2 rounds either way in favor to both. Some really close rounds
I haven't watched boxing in about 5 years and even then I was just watching big fights, even I hate fury, god he's annoying.
Joshua knocks out Fury. The latter is awkward and difficult to hit, but he's not a huge puncher at this level and Joshua can walk into him. If he catches Fury then that jaw hits the floor.