Can't see Canelo being happy with this news.
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Can't see Canelo being happy with this news.
Yeah, but Khan isn't beating CaneloHappier than Khan though. At least Canelo has a chance.
Yeah, but Khan isn't beating Canelo
Be hilarious if he somehow managed to beat both Canelo and GGG!
Khan will go after Fury after he beats GGG
Would be great to see but the only hilarious thing about it would be watching Eddie Hearn have to take 5% cut for the Wembley date with Brook! Khan would become unbearable.
Technically Khan has the tools to do it, box cleaver, but if he gets caught then it'd be like Fury said to Klit on gloves are off, night night.
Both of them would lose comfortably to Triple G IMO. Apparently he's going after Jacobs now though which would be an interesting fight but one I can't see him taking. The fighters are waiting for GGG to slow down which he inevitably will as he's already 32, same with Rigo.
Pacquiao is also a passionate cock fighter. Not in the gay way you are thinking. I mean his favourite pastime is pitting two cocks against each other in mortal combat. How do the cocks kill each other? I hear you ask. They tie blades to their feet so they slash each other to pieces when they attack with their feet. Pacquiao actually has a cock fighting arena on his premises.
This isn't uncommon in The Philippines, it is actually a national pastime so Pac has always got a pass on it due to cultural relativism.
I'll always love Manny tbh.
Frampton is a bigger draw than Quigg I don't think anyone can deny that.
Stuff like this on the face of it I think people just have to learn to live with it to be honest. If people like the guy fair enough. I've never been a big fan of him as a person as I think he's ridiculously false and most the religious stuff just seems like he's bullshitting to me to be honest. As a boxer he was brilliant at the top level.
Yeah I'd agree with that. Again in fairness to Frampton as well he didn't harp on about the celebrity stuff or being famous either, Quigg brought it up when Frampton (rightly) pointed out he's more popular. It was evident in the press conferences. I think there was more people in my front room at the Quigg press conference.
I'm going to it next weekend and can't wait but I fully expect it to be more Northern Irish people than Manchester. Although I reckon Sky/Hearn will spin it as a full crowd for Quigg.
I don't know if there would be more Northern Irish people, but I'd expect there would be more Frampton fans!
Is this the first time Quigg has headlined a show? Really hope Frampton wins, Quigg is an alright guy, but his team, Hearn especially are just dicks.
I wouldn't be surprised to be honest mate. I've got tickets but I've been offered a few off touts so I'd imagine it is fairly easy on the day to get the tickets outside etc. Its a cheap flight over and a big piss up for the Northern Irish, it will be interesting though.
Quigg isn't a huge name in Manchester outside of boxing circles, hes not a Ricky Hatton for example. Frampton isn't a Ricky Hatton either but I'd say he's a far bigger name and known by the general public more.
He headlined vs. Martinez didn't he? Can't remember but pretty sure he did.
These things are so weird. They're made by Sky, Quigg is the Sky fighter yet he and his team constantly come out looking the worst of the 2 parties involves, just odd.
The kit designer wasn't bad though!
I don't think that Quigg will be affected by Frampton having the share of the crowd. It is Frampton and his team that seem to be obsessed by that factor. If you watch the behind the media mini documentary it looks to me that Quigg is the more emotionally balanced of the two. Barry McGuigan is heard saying at the end 'he (Quigg) doesn't know what the pressure of this kind of fight has, I do'. Well for one Barry will not be the one fighting and Quigg simply isn't under the same pressure that is the weight of a nation that Frampton is. Moreover Quigg, to me anyway, looks like a person with a true sense of destiny and purpose and his demeanor is one of someone that believes that this level is where they belong. It is worth remembering that Quigg was competing in men's Thai Boxing aged 15 on national television. He is used to the exposure and pressure.
I don't think he will either, just worth pointing out that it could be a motivation to Frampton albeit it means very little to Quigg, whilst it may not hinder him it may equally boost Frampton. I'm not a professional athlete so I don't know but it would surely be some kind of motivation hearing you have the majority of a crowd especially when you're the "away" team as such.
It's a bit unfair to suggest they're obsessed with it, I think it's just a mind game move and one worth exploring to be fair it's about getting inside their head. I don't think it would do much to someone like Quigg but I imagine an ego like Gallagher would get riled up by stuff like that, he does react when they imply he's scared of going to Northern Ireland for example.
I've said it before but I think trash talk and mind games don't really work that much in sport anyway. The only time I can recall it actually seeming to do anything is Froch vs Groves when Froch was clearly wound up the whole time. Most the other times it's just laughed off by the fighters. If you look back at the build up this is all clearly manufactured anyway. When the contract was signed both fighters said they don't mind the other one there's various pictures of them posing together (before the fight was made) and they seem to have a decent relationship. They both probably know it does little except sell a fight.
I think it's hard to call as I've always said, I'm not doubting Quigg's ability in the slightest. I like watching the guy fight. At the moment I just see Frampton edging it. I don't think either are overawed by the crowd or anything like that, I just think Frampton is the better fighter and he wins because of that but it really is a close 1, I won't be putting money on i anyway!
Nah, I think Crolla was the headline in the draw against Perez?
And is it true that Stubhub, one of the sponsors for Matchroom got some of the release tickets at facevalue then sold them on via their own website? Wouldn't be surprised if true given how much of a knob Hearn is.
I don't think that either Frampton or Quigg are known by the general public in the England. Quigg will get a decent home turnout though, most fights of a decent size sell out the arena to locals. I would expect the home crowd to be bigger than Frampton's but probably not as loud. I don't think English fans will be rooting for Frampton over Quigg, however.
Yeah you're right actually so he's probably not no.
It wouldnt surprise me, there was a few allegations with the tickets being sold to favour Quigg when it was meant to be a 50/50 split, not sure how true they are. Hearn has obviously denied it all though so we'll never know!
I agree with that yeah, my point was more I'd imagine Frampton is quite well known by the general public in Northern Ireland and I could see people jumping on the event because of it. Tickets on the night are always easy to come by for any event really so if you're prepared to pay it won't be a huge issue.
I'm personally not to fussed who wins, I don't mind either of them. It's a weird one really because usually I do pick someone but this time I just hope for a good fight!
Sky are doing the best they can with Quigg. He's coming across better than usual tbf. While I think Frampton could come across better than how Sky are portraying him, too.
2 things to discuss tonight:
1) MatchRoom's shady syndicate. Tickets "sell out" regularly for MatchRoom events in minutes and record times are reported immediately on Sky's publications to further drive demand. They then appear for 4x the amount on StubHub. Who do StubHub sponsor? Why Anthony Joshua of course. Throw in a bi-annual PPV offering with Sky and it's a modern day racket with MatchRoom, Sky and StubHub all seemingly making cuts everywhere at the fans expense.
2) ITV trying to get PBC deal - source was Daily Mail so could be BS.
1) MatchRoom's shady syndicate. Tickets "sell out" regularly for MatchRoom events in minutes and record times are reported immediately on Sky's publications to further drive demand. They then appear for 4x the amount on StubHub. Who do StubHub sponsor? Why Anthony Joshua of course. Throw in a bi-annual PPV offering with Sky and it's a modern day racket with MatchRoom, Sky and StubHub all seemingly making cuts everywhere at the fans expense.
2) ITV trying to get PBC deal - source was Daily Mail so could be BS.
What did he say?
Indeed. But unfortunately for him, he would get killed against GGG.
Compared the LGBT population to animals. These are his words:
Apologized a few days later, but has now again come out quoting this Bible verse on his Instagram
Yeah, he was a giant cock always. A bit religious nutter, but that didn't stop him to cheat on his wife.
Still, loved him as boxer. The most exciting boxer on a very long time.
The ITV thing could be great or really bad, it depends on the fights they get on there. PBC hasn't really taken off as well as people hoped I think but it's still only young and needs to be given time.
A blow for boxing coming up here, I know everyone was up for this:
Oh and a (brilliant) promo the big fight this weekend as well. This guys done a few great ones for previous fights
GP is fantastic. Been watching his material across his various channels since about 2010. Wonderful work.
@Oggmonster
I think boxing on any terrestrial channel is good for the sport. The problem with PBC will be that most of the fights will be on in the middle of the night and many of their boxer have little profile in the UK. I won't be complaining though, there will be some great fights free to air in HD
I think boxing on any terrestrial channel is good for the sport. The problem with PBC will be that most of the fights will be on in the middle of the night and many of their boxer have little profile in the UK. I won't be complaining though, there will be some great fights free to air in HD
I'm surprised one of the top companies hasn't hired him to be honest! His production is better than most of them. Carl Frampton shared that on Facebook so the boxers themselves must like the stuff he does.
@Oggmonster
I think boxing on any terrestrial channel is good for the sport. The problem with PBC will be that most of the fights will be on in the middle of the night and many of their boxer have little profile in the UK. I won't be complaining though, there will be some great fights free to air in HD
I might of read it wrong but it implies it would be a British version of PBC of sorts I think mate. I might be wrong like I say but that's what it seems like. Have to wait and see though I guess.
You mean a British UFC type stable?
God knows how it would work. Seems to read like they'd basically sign a load of fighters exclusively to fight on ITV similar to what Hearn does at Sky and then work from there.
It's a big task though as Hearn has a monopoly pretty much on top British boxers.
If I'm reading it right which I'm probably not that's how it seems anyway. If that was the case and they wanted to make a name for themselves doing it I'd suggest the 3 boxers they may go after to sign up to it would be Frampton, Haye and Fury really.
@Oggmonster I can vaguely remember Amir Khan liking his work and possibly using him to do the video of one of his ring walks. Could have made that up but it's in my memory somewhere.
Ah interesting, would be good for a boxer to use though his production value is much better than any of the professional outlets! The only one which comes close I feel is Showtime really and even then they only really bothered making the effort for Mayweather.
http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/carl-frampton-v-scott-quigg-15-expert-predictions/
Holding my breath, it's nearly here.
Holding my breath, it's nearly here.
A proper pick 'em. Can't wait.
I'm leaning towards Frampton again. Reckon he'll win comfortably on points. Whenever there are two boxers at a high level, the one with more skill almost always win.
Fury response
I'm still saying frampton as well but it is a close one. If it goes to points I can't see Quigg winning anyway.
Quigg on a late round stoppage for me. Frampton will win a lot of rounds but Quigg will close the gap eventually and knock him out.
Looks like it's set up to be Parker vs. Joshua at some point in the future then! The heavyweight decision making a comeback can only be good for the sport really.