The RedCafe Boxing Thread

Canelo wins via a UD.

No way those cards were anywhere near accurate. How the f*ck did one have it 119-109? Either fighter could have won a razor thin decision.

Bullshit cards, just goes to show how corrupt and out of sync the judges are.
 
I thought canelo looked laboured tonight or maybe it is that cotto looked really fast with his movement, canelo looked like he took it a little easy in his camp although his punches were more accurate and harder but still i thought he could have finished him if he was a little more intense.
 
Those scorecards were harsh.

I think the word you are looking for is fixed. Only way you beat this kid going forward is by KO and he´s not fighting people that can knock him out. He´ll always look for the age AND size advantage to negate the skill disadvantage. And if that´s not doing it like tonight or against Lara. Well nobody is going mess with the Mexican mafia.
 
If the rounds are close but one boxer is CLEARLY landing the bigger shots, he's obviously going to get the decision. This isn't amateur boxing.
 
I think the word you are looking for is fixed. Only way you beat this kid going forward is by KO and he´s not fighting people that can knock him out. He´ll always look for the age AND size advantage to negate the skill disadvantage. And if that´s not doing it like tonight or against Lara. Well nobody is going mess with the Mexican mafia.

Exactly. He's boxing's golden boy and cash cow following the retirement of Floyd. No way he loses on points.
 
I think the word you are looking for is fixed. Only way you beat this kid going forward is by KO and he´s not fighting people that can knock him out. He´ll always look for the age AND size advantage to negate the skill disadvantage. And if that´s not doing it like tonight or against Lara. Well nobody is going mess with the Mexican mafia.
I think he won, no doubt. But yeah, scores were dodgy. Never that far ahead.
 
If the rounds are close but one boxer is CLEARLY landing the bigger shots, he's obviously going to get the decision. This isn't amateur boxing.

Exactly. I love Cotto and his boxing skills but there was clearly no way on earth he was going to hurt Canelo who unfortunately is so limited that he stands exactly zero chance against GGG
 
Exactly. I love Cotto and his boxing skills but there was clearly no way on earth he was going to hurt Canelo who unfortunately is so limited that he stands exactly zero chance against GGG
I don't think Canelo's limited, I think he goes 12 rounds with GGG cause he's deceptively smart and has an iron chin. GGG's boxing skill is just out of this world though.
 
I don't think Canelo's limited, I think he goes 12 rounds with GGG cause he's deceptively smart and has an iron chin. GGG's boxing skill is just out of this world though.

I remember Canelo being out on his feet against Jose Cotto, one punch away from an embarrassing defeat. Golovkin stops him mid rounds IMO.
 
I remember Canelo being out on his feet against Jose Cotto, one punch away from an embarrassing defeat. Golovkin stops him mid rounds IMO.

Yeah, I concur with that. Canelo doesn't have anything on GGG. Not strength nor ring craft. I'd envisage a dominant GGG stopping Canelo once he gets bored of toying with him.
 
He was like a teenager when he fought Jose Cotto, and got caught flush. He's come on leaps and bounds since.

It was like his 33rd fight! Regardless of his age it shows that he can be hurt and when you look at what Golovkin brings to the table, he is going to get hurt again IMO.
 
It was like his 33rd fight! Regardless of his age it shows that he can be hurt and when you look at what Golovkin brings to the table, he is going to get hurt again IMO.

Difficult to disagree. It's an unfair fight, as no one has the tools to remotely challenge Golovkin at middleweight. I actually thought Cotto showed he was a better boxer for sure v Canelo, but the disadvantage of being the smaller man was obvious in the ring...Changes nothing though, Cotto is a bone fide legend and will be remembered as such.
 
Difficult to disagree. It's an unfair fight, as no one has the tools to remotely challenge Golovkin at middleweight. I actually thought Cotto showed he was a better boxer for sure v Canelo, but the disadvantage of being the smaller man was obvious in the ring...Changes nothing though, Cotto is a bone fide legend and will be remembered as such.

Cotto is HOF for sure. Too small for the real top guys at MW, like you say. He is a WW really.
 
What's this shit Canelo is chatting. Says he needs a 155 catchweight because he can't make 160 but re-hydrates to 170+?
 
Quite a bit OT but I was having a chat with a pal earlier and we were saying it would be amazing to have a league style tournament in boxing, Ideally with the top talent but unlikely in today's age of ducking opponents and protecting fighters. You could have for example 4 fighters box each over a year in 6 x 6 round fights home and away. It would be great if it was competitive enough, maybe even for a belt if possible. We need more stuff like the super 6 where we get to see top talent against each other consistently - anyone got any other ideas to spice things up a bit in the boxing world?

Just want to say I'm not saying boxing isn't in a good state right now but I think it has potential to better than it is. It would be better if boxing was more like darts or tennis where the top talent are playing against each other on a much more consistent basis.
 
Quite a bit OT but I was having a chat with a pal earlier and we were saying it would be amazing to have a league style tournament in boxing, Ideally with the top talent but unlikely in today's age of ducking opponents and protecting fighters. You could have for example 4 fighters box each over a year in 6 x 6 round fights home and away. It would be great if it was competitive enough, maybe even for a belt if possible. We need more stuff like the super 6 where we get to see top talent against each other consistently - anyone got any other ideas to spice things up a bit in the boxing world?

Just want to say I'm not saying boxing isn't in a good state right now but I think it has potential to better than it is. It would be better if boxing was more like darts or tennis where the top talent are playing against each other on a much more consistent basis.
Like the Super Six?

Not meant to be sarcastic btw. I mean, you'd like it to be the Super Six but with more of a league format?
 
Like the Super Six?

Not meant to be sarcastic btw. I mean, you'd like it to be the Super Six but with more of a league format?

Not as weird as the super six, just 4 top fighters fight home and away 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw - top two fighters compete in number 1s hometown.

I'm aware what I'm proposing is similar to the super six so I'll just re-write the post as...

Should we see more super six (style) tournaments or what are others suggestions to encourage more consistent top level fights where both fighters could be considered in their prime.
 
Not as weird as the super six, just 4 top fighters fight home and away 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw - top two fighters compete in number 1s hometown.

I'm aware what I'm proposing is similar to the super six so I'll just re-write the post as...

Should we see more super six (style) tournaments or what are others suggestions to encourage more consistent top level fights where both fighters could be considered in their prime.

We should, but we won't. Fighters are just ducking each other and promoters are playing politics -- add into the mix TV deals for the big fighters, etc.
 
We should, but we won't. Fighters are just ducking each other and promoters are playing politics -- add into the mix TV deals for the big fighters, etc.

Suppose that's it in a nutshell, but still it's nice to think we might see a few more "elite" fighters have more than 4 or 5 actually competitive fights. If (when) Fury was to lose then a 4 of him, Haye, Joshua and Price (or whoever) could be an enticing four and that's nowhere near the best four across the divisions and some of those fights wouldn't be regarded as competitive. Could be a few better combinations put together I'd bet.
 
I love the Dark Destroyer :drool: Makes Eubank look like a prat.

 
The Klischtko Fury fight this weekend. Whaddayareckon? I'd be very surprised if we don't see Fury on the wrong end of a right old thumping.
 
As good as it would be for the division for Klitschko to lose, it would be even worse for the oafish Fury to be the face of the division.
 
Just imagine Fury having his "I shook up the world" moment. Seriously, imagine the scenes. It would be hilarious and tragic in equal doses.

For that reason, I want a Fury win. I also expect a Klitschko very late stoppage or boring points win.
 
Just imagine Fury having his "I shook up the world" moment. Seriously, imagine the scenes. It would be hilarious and tragic in equal doses.

For that reason, I want a Fury win. I also expect a Klitschko very late stoppage or boring points win.

Yup. Too strong for Fury, despite what the size suggests. He'll control the fight, and win a wide decision.
 
Just imagine Fury having his "I shook up the world" moment. Seriously, imagine the scenes. It would be hilarious and tragic in equal doses.

For that reason, I want a Fury win. I also expect a Klitschko very late stoppage or boring points win.

Like when he punched himself in the face.
 
Like when he punched himself in the face.

That will never not be funny.

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Do you lot see the Fury vs Klitschko fight going the distance?
 
I'm in two minds. The only thing I'm willing to rule out is Fury KO'ing Wlad.
 
Do you lot see the Fury vs Klitschko fight going the distance?


Yeah I do, it'll be similar to Haye where he just frustrates him for 12 rounds and wins convincingly. Fury has done a brilliant job selling the fight though (again as Haye did.)