The RedCafe Boxing Thread
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Fury can knock Wlad out -The usual puncher's chance. I can see the fight ending with a stoppage, most likely Klitschko coming out on top. I highly doubt Fury will try to outbox Wlad, so I reckon he'll ultra aggressive and try and stop him early, but may just get caught out and KO'd by doing so. I want Fury to win which kinda makes feel dirty
I'm with you on the outboxing part. Fury will absolutely not win by decision in front of a "home" crowd for Wlad. He's hoping for a one in a thousand punch, or nothing.
He also wouldn't have a chance of outboxing him, so doesn't matter much where the fight is tbh.
Yep. If he doesn't KO Wlad, it's a 10-2 in Germany, and a 9-3 in the UK 
Honestly, I don't know why we're all so excited.
Honestly, I don't know why we're all so excited.Because Tyson is unpredictable. He's gonna sing that Aerosmith song when he wins.
Wlad will win on points.
Any HD rivers on the go peeps?
Wladimir 11-5 to win on points, looks very tempting
Wlad will get the KO imo. Possibly quite early too.
It's tomorrrow night.
So it is. Damn, thought it was on at 11 tonight.
I think Fury's ring walk is at 21:55 tomorrow GMT, so you don't miss it tomorrow as well! Could be all over by 11.
Really ? I can't really tell who will win this, mainly because its a bit murky how good Fury actually is. Wouldn't be surprised to see it go the distance with Wlad getting a decision.
Fury has never really impressed me. Not technically very good, not a great condition. Relies on his stature to dominate opponents. Won't work against Wlad, who is technically superb and also quite tall. Fury has been down a few times before to lesser opponents. I dunno -- there's no point in him trying to win on points because it simply isn't possible. Going for a KO will leave him exposed and he's been down before. Huge points win to Wlad, or KO to Wlad, or a one in a million miracle punch for Fury to cause one of the biggest upsets in a long time.
Only thing Fury has going for him is his undefeated record, but even that looks unimpressive when you look at Wlad's record of dominating previously undefeated fighters (likes of Povetkin being far superior to Fury).
Oh right, is it not an 11pm fight or is that european time?
At least with Fury he won't bottle it like Wlad's last British challenger
I think that Fury needs to make this a rough and sloppy fight. Wad will be hugging him a lot so Fury needs to lean on him, stick the head in a bit, just rough him up. Wlad's age and the fact he has never a man of Fury's stature pushing back at him could be the ingredients for a late stoppage and the upset for a Fury win.
I still expect WK to win though, in a dull affair that could go the distance. Every chance that WK stops Fury as well.
I still expect WK to win though, in a dull affair that could go the distance. Every chance that WK stops Fury as well.
My expectations for this fight are for Fury to start piling on the pressure with an aggressive attack within the first minute trying to get a few big shots in on Klitschko, He might get through with one or two and Klitschko will still be standing. Fury will hit the deck within 2 rounds and lose on points convincingly. 118-109 in Klitschko's favour at best for Fury I reckon.
I think that's impossible to say. Wlad had nullified nearly all his opponents. It's easy for Fury to talk but Haye did the same and got dominated.
Fury will have to go for a KO as he's no where near as technically good as Wlad (or Hayefor that matter) but f he did that and kept missing it doesn't mean he's not "bottled" it really, just means he's pretty much done it in a different way.
As for the fight I think it will be a pretty dull one, Fury will probably go down a few times and Wlad wins on points. Everyone who's on the Fury bandwagon quickly jumps off like people did with Haye.
I honestly believe what Tyson Fury says, his confidence has made me confident. I agree though; if he loses (fairly), he's pretty much done for. Dreading the possibility of it tbh.
I think one advantage of losing to Wlad (if it makes any sense) is in the next few years he's gone really. Once there's a new champion almost everyone in the division gets a second chance. If Fury lost tonight which I expect him to and then go on a run of 10 or so fights unbeaten again and there's a new champion I think he'd get a chance. He won't get another shot at Wlad if he loses convincingly tonight but he would possibly get 1 in the future....my main concern for Fury is how good is he? You look at the opponents he's faced and you could make an argument the best he's faced if Chisora, it's hardly a huge list of success stories. If he wasn't British I doubt many people would be backing him tonight.
I just can't see it being that close myself. I think Haye was a much better boxer than Fury and he lost convincingly. Povetkin is a better fighter than Fury and he did the same. It COULD happen as heavyweight is one of them divisions where 1 big blow and someone's out but I really don't think it would happen tonight.
The match as come to a impasse .Fury camp complaining that Klitschko as rigged the ring to his favour. Adding extra foam to the ring floor which will slow down Furys mobility and give the advantage to Klitschko.
My point exactly. He wasn't even that convincing against Chisora the first time round. I mean, Haye demolished the guy.
Have you seen the ring? It is a joke, feet are sinking in about 3 inches.
No .Just listened to what Steve Bunce had to say . All adds to the circus.
Brilliant, will I be able to get a refund on the PPV?
If Tyson pulls out over the fecking canvas then he's some hypocrite
Wlad should beat Fury tonight, he's 10 years champion, more experienced and fighting in his home advantage but what you saying is rubbish, yes Haye is better than Fury technically and I expected him to beat Fury but come on, he's 6ft3 and never was troubled by Wlad once. Povetkin is smaller at 6ft2, Tyson Fury may not be as good but he is bigger than Wlad, whens the last time he fought someone bigger? That aspect alone makes things interesting. Then there's what Fury mentions, the age factor, that in football and boxing is a big talking point, its not just a number as Wlad says.
Also you talk about Haye being beaten by Wlad but then mention Fury beating Chisora as his best victory yet completely (conveniently) leave out that this is a man BOTH have fought and Tyson did better, much better than Wlad.
If Tyson pulls out over the fecking canvas then he's some hypocrite
The issue is it has been padded with so much extra foam so that it is incredibly difficult to move on so it heavily favours Vlad. Vlad has been training on it for 6 weeks because he chose it. As far as I know Fury only found out today. It's actually a fair point because it looks so so difficult to move on.
In fairness Wlad would struggle to fight many fighters who are as big as him, he's huge (as is Fury.) For fighters who are almost as tall as him he's done well against them. He pretty easily beat Wach who was unbeaten at the time.
I don't get how it's rubbish what I'm saying? Especially when you say you agree with it! Haye IS a better boxer than Fury. Heightt will give as aspect that Haye didn't have but then his lack of technical skill doesn't really help him.
Age has some factor of course, people slow as they get older but at the same time Wlad is similar to Mayweather, he's hardly been hit in 10 years and his reactions aren't going to be that much slower because of punishment. It may be true and it's a fair comment but I don't think it will make that much difference in all honesty.
I think Fury has a punchers chance, he probably knows it himself really, he'll struggle to win on points and as I said he could knock out Wlad but I really can't see it happening, the simple fact is he's never fought anyone near the quality of Wlad (or even near the quality of Wlad's opponents.)
Your last point I don't get. Do you mean Haye looked worse vs. Chisora than Fury did? Haye looked much better than Fury vs. Chisora. As for Wlad, he never fought Chisora....he got injured in the training, Vitali fought him.
Yeah I've just seen the video of Fury's team on that canvas and it did look hard to move on.
Doesn't matter anyway, the canvas issue has been resolved and the fight is back on! Apparently there was 3-4 layers of foam added which is ridiculous.
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"He has a point that is not a Canvas that is Memory Foam lol"
Does look like he's walking on a big mattress.If anyone fancies a flutter tonight I've written my gambling preview of the main event on @Tarrou 's gamblegeek website: http://gamblegeek.com/2015/11/28/klitschko-v-fury-betting-preview/
"He has a point that is not a Canvas that is Memory Foam lol"
Klitschko was just being kind, giving Tyson something soft to land on
Don't know why but I've got a feeling Fury will trouble him tonight, there usual height advantage isn't in Klitchs favour and I suspect Fury will take it to him.
Not a boxing fan but will watch Fury get floored hopefully.
How can Sky and other PPV services charge £17 for this when its free on Astro SuperSports 2. No wonder people are streaming
How can Sky and other PPV services charge £17 for this when its free on Astro SuperSports 2. No wonder people are streaming
What time is the fight gonna start?
Might try and find a stream to see Fury hopefully get K'd the F O.
Might try and find a stream to see Fury hopefully get K'd the F O.
10 to 10.