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Mayweather will try his best to find an excuse to run away from Pacman. First the drug tests and now wanting a 60-40 split in his favor.

Didn't Mayweather call out Pacquiao for a fight May 5th in December. But Arum made some excuse about how Pacman can't fight on that date but can do June when Floyd is in jail. Seems like every year both are making excues, this fight isn't happening.
 
1. These two chumps should not be allowed the opportunity of a huge payday after the disgrace of Munich, and

2. How on earth can the Boxing Board of Luxembourg sanction a fight in Britain? How does that work??

This is boxing.

The world has just been jumping on the cock of Floyd Mayweather who is going to jail at the end of the month for beating the mother of his children in front of them. The same Floyd Mayweather that made a You Tube video last year where he said that he was going to 'cook that yellow chump' in reference to Manny Pacquiao.

I find a bit of consensual violence between two grown men much less offensive than that.
 

Mayweather will try his best to find an excuse to run away from Pacman. First the drug tests and now wanting a 60-40 split in his favor.

Apparently he was intentionally getting bloodied up by Cotto to give the fans a bit of an excitement as well, because he really cares about giving boxing fans their money's worth and what they want to see - except when it comes to manning up and agreeing to fight a certain Philipino.

To be fair I don't think the pac man camp want the fight, look how he performed in his last fight. Mayweather could seriously embarrass him.
 
To be fair I don't think the pac man camp want the fight, look how he performed in his last fight. Mayweather could seriously embarrass him.

It is a little simplistic to view things in that way.

Marquez is a fighter that gives Pacquiao nightmares, he is just that guy who has a horrible style for him.

From what I have been reading in the American boxing press Mayweather's performance against Cotto has shortened the potential odds in a fight between May and Pac. There is no question that PBF is more hittable these days and that he has more trouble against southpaws. Pac brings more violence and power than Miguel Cotto and at higher speeds. I think that team Pacquiao will believe that they can beat PBF and if they don't then they should get out of the game.
 
Why does Pac deserve more than a 60/40 split?

Maybe he doesn't, some serious figures need to be drawn up.

As far as I understand PBF thinks he should receive more as he is undefeated and simply because he is Floyd Mayweather. Neither of these points are legitimate as far as I am concerned. If you can explain to me the merits of these points then I would be happy to listen.

Again, as far as I understand, Pacquiao has been out performing or at least running neck and neck with Floyd on PPV sales recently and Pac has definitely been selling more tickets to his fights. Floyd has failed to sell out his last few fights in venues smaller than the ones that Pac was selling out.

From what I was reading prior to the PBF - Cotto fight, Mayweather was making the biggest ever guarantee for a fight in history but this is not the same as wealth creation. PBF is not contracted to a promoter, he has in the past used Richard Schaefer as an independent contractor to promote his fights though I am not sure who he used this time round. This means that he gets to take home a hell of a lot more of the revenue than Pac would, who is contracted to Bob Arum and Top Rank.

I don't know who draws the most money between the two fighters but I don't think that the disparity is that great, especially on a global scale. If anyone knows any legitimate details I would love to hear.

All I do know is that PBF made an entirely derisory offer to Pac (equated to 75/25 when all was said and done) and then used it as evidence for his willingness to make the fight. To me, those are the actions of someone who doesn't really want to make the fight but who is eager to make people think that he does want to make the fight.
 
Pacquiao deserves 50/50, he is just as good a fighter as Mayweather and more entertaining. A fighter of his stature who has won titles at 8 weight divisions shouldn't accept less than 50/50 IMO.
 
1. These two chumps should not be allowed the opportunity of a huge payday after the disgrace of Munich, and

2. How on earth can the Boxing Board of Luxembourg sanction a fight in Britain? How does that work??

From the BBC:

Because European Union freedom of trade laws permit the fight to be held in the United Kingdom and they have been given licences by the Luxembourg Boxing Federation.
 
David Haye has somehow, once again, managed to make a nothing fight.....something. And considering people are dumb and fall for stuff like this, it'll probably give him another big pay day.

Props to him, good promoter, knows who hes milking and exactly how to do it.

The split on Mayweather/Pacquiao is easy as shit.....40-40 and winner takes home the other 20, both of them even probably know that and have done since day one, but yeah...
 
Lamont Peterson's team have admitted that he took testosterone pellets apparently prescribed by his doctor to treat low testosterone.

What fighter or athlete on earth would take testosterone pellets innocently before a sporting event without telling any relevant body first?
 
Pacquiao deserves 50/50, he is just as good a fighter as Mayweather and more entertaining. A fighter of his stature who has won titles at 8 weight divisions shouldn't accept less than 50/50 IMO.

Indeed, being undefeated isn't a good enough reason to demand a greater share, especially when you handpick inferior fighters to make sure you don't lose your precious '0'. Fans want exciting fighters, and Pacman is a more exciting fighter than Floyd, a 50-50 is the most reasonable arrangement.

As for pacman having a tough time against Marquez, that shit happens. Pacman had a much easier time against Cotto than Mayweather did, but that doesn't mean Pacman should get a greater share. Both are almost as good as each other and if anything Pacman is a more exciting fighter.
 
Pacquiao vs. Mayweather: Arum Calls out Money May, Says Fight Plan Is in Place

Today on ESPN 1100's, Gridlock show out of Las Vegas, Top Rank President Bob Arum called out Floyd Mayweather Jr., saying Manny Pacquiao is up to the task of taking on Mayweather and it's up the him to make it happen.

Arum talked about Mayweather's favorite quote, "take the test, to fight the best," saying that he has told the media over and over again.

What do you mean take the test? For two years Pacquiao has said that he'll take any drug test. Whether it's USADA or VADA or whoever administers it. So why is that still being talked about?

Then Arum made a bold claim, likening Mayweather to Adolf Hitler's publicist:

You see, Mayweather is from the school of propaganda that Joseph Goebbels, who was Hitler's publicist, adopted. The more you say things over-and-over again, the more people believe it.

Arum then tackled the money split controversy that Mayweather has created, since he doesn't want to agree to an even 50/50 split. Many feel that this is now the biggest roadblock keeping everyone from seeing the dream bout becoming a reality.

Everybody agreed the proceeds would be split 50/50. Now there is an excuse, he (Mayweather) does not want to split it 50/50. So we say, OK here's the deal. Let's make it 45/45 to each fighter, then 10 percent, the missing 10 percent goes to the winner.

According to Arum, Money May's response to the proposed 45/45 split, was, "take the test." Whether that is true or not, it has to be noted that Pacquiao's camp is trying to make the super fight happen, despite what Mayweather is saying to the media.

A reason to why Arum thinks Mayweather won't agree to terms for the fight is that Money May doesn't like to fight southpaws, especially one with the power that Pacquiao posses.

The fact that Pacquiao is a fast, left-hander, who hits with tremendous power in his left hand. I promoted Floyd for over 10 years. Anytime you raised the prospect with him of fighting a southpaw, he went crazy. Now with Pacquiao, who has all that power and all that speed, he doesn't want Pacquiao.

The facility where the fight would take place also came up during their conversation. Arum reiterated the plan to erect a temporary stadium, this time adding more details into the building that is to be located near the Luxor Hotel and casino on the south end of the Las Vegas Strip and include a boxing experience.

I met with the MGM people and they have shown me the plans. Showed me the plans of where they'd put up a temporary 40,000-seat stadium and get a license to keep it up for a year and maybe extend it for another year, and they proposed a deal where the fighters agree to fight, and then there would be an automatic rematch some months later.

If all of what Arum said is true, it definitely seems like Pacquiao's camp is doing far more work towards getting PacMan in the ring with Money May and the ball would now be in Mayweather's court to take the bait and get the bout in the ring within the next year.
 
Arum has been digging his heels in for about 18 months now, and he decides to call Money out just as he's going to prison.

Unbe-fecking-lievable!

Money is the biggest box office draw, a 60-40 split is more than reasonable.
 
Arum has been digging his heels in for about 18 months now, and he decides to call Money out just as he's going to prison.

Unbe-fecking-lievable!

Eh

He is going to prison in 20 days for 30 days, it is hardly a significant block in any negotiation!

Money is the biggest box office draw, a 60-40 split is more than reasonable.

Got any figures to support that? You do know that Mayweather often fails to sell out venues half the size of the ones that Manny fills? As far as I understand recent PPV figures have been very close.
 
Indeed, being undefeated isn't a good enough reason to demand a greater share, especially when you handpick inferior fighters to make sure you don't lose your precious '0'. Fans want exciting fighters, and Pacman is a more exciting fighter than Floyd, a 50-50 is the most reasonable arrangement.

As for pacman having a tough time against Marquez, that shit happens. Pacman had a much easier time against Cotto than Mayweather did, but that doesn't mean Pacman should get a greater share. Both are almost as good as each other and if anything Pacman is a more exciting fighter.

Yeah I agree.

When you think who Pacquiao has faced in the ring I don't think he'd be trying to duck Mayweather. Fighting Morales, Barrera, Marquez is as good a trio of opponents as you're going to see, and he showed a lot of balls fighting Margarito at 150. He just doesn't stike me as having any worry about facing Floyd in the ring.
 
Eh

He is going to prison in 20 days for 30 days, it is hardly a significant block in any negotiation! .

Floyd offered him the fight in December for May 5th. Arum made some stupid exuses and then said Manny could do June when Money is in jail. Arum is clearly the problem here, both fighters would do it.
 
Floyd offered him the fight in December for May 5th. Arum made some stupid exuses and then said Manny could do June when Money is in jail. Arum is clearly the problem here, both fighters would do it.

What reason would Arum have for not making this fight and please consider the man before answering?

He may be wanting to milk Manny as much as possible before making the fight but that means that he will eventually make the fight.

If the fight never happens it will be Mayweather's fault.
 
What reason would Arum have for not making this fight and please consider the man before answering?

He may be wanting to milk Manny as much as possible before making the fight but that means that he will eventually make the fight.

If the fight never happens it will be Mayweather's fault.

Probably for the same reason people say Floyd doesn't want the fight, doesn't want to risk losing.

To say it's all Mayweather fault if it doesn happpen, that is bullshit. Both have made excuses, one after the other anyone who says other wise is just a biased fan.
 
Kid Galahad on C5 tonight. Very interesting British prospect. Not a big puncher but very slick with a cocky style.
 
He is very slick and showed some skills in his win.

On another note, what is the latest on the Khan - Peterson fiasco?

Petersen failed his A and B sample drugs test, and has been stripped of the title.

Looks like khan will fight the number 1 contender for the belt
 
David Price v Sam Sexton for Price's first defence of his British heavyweight title on now...is it worth a watch, is Price any good?

EDIT: Oh god, he is walking out to 'You'll never walk alone':mad:
 
Price smashed him is six rounds in answer to my question. Big (6'8) powerful bloke. Interesting to see whether he actually is anything more than a big punch when he comes up against better boxers.
 
Fancy Bute to win this looks a good fighter, very fast and slick think he'll just have too much for Froch in the end. Anyone else any opinions on how it'll pan out?
 
Here we go...lively opening
 
Bell saves Bute. Very impressive round from Froch.
 
hell of a round for froch. bute is all over the place
 
This will not last much longer, superb from Froch.
 
That Bute has got a solid chin tbf- has taken a hell of a lot of shots
 
Why doesn't Bute ever get warned for holding?