The RedCafe Boxing Thread

Really hope Morales wins but it's gonna be tough for him at his age. He's a true legend Morales.

Cant wait for the Kirkland fight, hes such an aggressive boxer so should be entertaining.
 
Molina DQd because his corner people entered the ring when the ref was counting after he was knocked down right at the sound of the bell. Never seen that happen before.
 
Serves him right, he ruined that fight from start to finish. Turned into an utter joke of a fight with his constant grabbing and going in with his head. Never gonna watch a Molina fight again, boring as feck.
 
Very good fight, the knockdown came from nowhere and changed the fight as Morales looked in control at that time. Garcia sneaks the win for me.

Edit: Garcia wins but that was a blowout according to the judges, I thought it was much closer than they scored it.
 
Yep, surprised how widely the judges scored it for Garcia. Sad to say but Morales comeback has well and truly lost steam now. Can't see him fighting at a high-ish level more than 1 or 2 more times now, although I hope I'm wrong.

Agree with Theon in that I have feck all sympathy with Molina as he spoiled his way through the fight, but it was still a bizarre decision from the ref. The bell had gone, there wasn't going to be any more punches exchanged, I don't see why the cornerman should have been disqualified for entering the ring.
 
feck that's probably the end of Morales' career. Don't want him to continue like this because he's not the same fighter and would hate to see him lose more and tarnish his legacy. Easily one on my favourite ever boxers, shame he couldnt go out with a win but he's a definate legend in the sport.
 
That Morales loss has bummed me out for some reason :(. Time to stop drinking and go to bed.
 
Anyone else listen to the Four Kings Documentary on 5Live last night? It'll be on IPlayer soon and is essential listening.
 
Widnes said:
See Bellew won again, surely Nathan Cleverly has to give him a rematch
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Because he beat a nobody in his first fight since deservedly losing MD to Clev?

Clev should really start fighting world class opponents, which he hasn't since he became champ. I can see Frank Warren going for the rematch though.
 
Jimy_Hills_Chin said:
Because he beat a nobody in his first fight since deservedly losing MD to Clev?

Clev should really start fighting world class opponents, which he hasn't since he became champ. I can see Frank Warren going for the rematch though.
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Well the last fight that Cleverly arranged was against a nobody, surely Bellew would have provided a much tougher test.
 
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He was fortunate not to be KO'd in one round by Chazz Witherspoon. He will never be ready for a Klit.

Put him in with Chris Nipple for a giggle.
 
Lance Uppercut said:
:lol:

He was fortunate not to be KO'd in one round by Chazz Witherspoon. He will never be ready for a Klit.

Put him in with Chris Nipple for a giggle.
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That's why he said once he cleans up, as they say at HW it can all be over in one punch the trick is to not let that one punch land!

Showed heart, good body punching and finishing instinct could catch an over the hill Vitali if done
 
Jimy_Hills_Chin said:
Because he beat a nobody in his first fight since deservedly losing MD to Clev?

Clev should really start fighting world class opponents, which he hasn't since he became champ. I can see Frank Warren going for the rematch though.
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McIntosh was a former European champ, considering Bellew was British champ that was considered a step up. He handled it exceptionally well
 
CLK_FPC said:
That's why he said once he cleans up, as they say at HW it can all be over in one punch the trick is to not let that one punch land!

Showed heart, good body punching and finishing instinct could catch an over the hill Vitali if done
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I think even this Vitali KO's him with relative ease. Lack of head movement plus questionable chin = disaster. The Americans are desperate for a HW contender and they are trying to build Mitchell up as it. I don't see it. He will be another Michael Grant, in my opinion. Who, coincidentally, Mitchell may well be fighting next.
 
Picked up boxing late so the fundamentals like moving your head may not be there totally but I dunno, I see a bit more to him than the usually Black US heavyweights they try and hail as the next coming ie Eddie Chambers
 
CLK_FPC said:
McIntosh was a former European champ, considering Bellew was British champ that was considered a step up. He handled it exceptionally well
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How can fighting a guy who won a vacant European title and then lost it in his first defence be considered a step up from fighting Nathan Cleverly?
 
CLK_FPC said:
That's why he said once he cleans up, as they say at HW it can all be over in one punch the trick is to not let that one punch land!

Showed heart, good body punching and finishing instinct could catch an over the hill Vitali if done
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Yeah, need to really brush up his defensive skills as in the first round he seemed to think ducking would be sufficient. Do like the look of him though.

All this talk of the Klitschko's looking at him as a potential opponent is way too early for me, but I do think if he improves then he could catch one or both of the Klitschko's on the way back down. I reckon he'll be better than Chisora and he gave Vitali a decent run for his money.

On a different matter, who is everyone backing this weekend? Can't decide between Cotto and Mayweather. Both the sort of characters that you like but for entirely different reasons.
 
Jimy_Hills_Chin said:
How can fighting a guy who won a vacant European title and then lost it in his first defence be considered a step up from fighting Nathan Cleverly?
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Not a step up from Cleverly, a step up from the level that he is at considering he is the British champion. The fight was simply to justify his position if the Cleverly rematch comes off.

To be honest it's not a step up from Cleverly but Cleverly isn't that great he has much work to do, top level and I think he gets exposed.
 
pocco said:
Yeah, need to really brush up his defensive skills as in the first round he seemed to think ducking would be sufficient. Do like the look of him though.

All this talk of the Klitschko's looking at him as a potential opponent is way too early for me, but I do think if he improves then he could catch one or both of the Klitschko's on the way back down. I reckon he'll be better than Chisora and he gave Vitali a decent run for his money.

On a different matter, who is everyone backing this weekend? Can't decide between Cotto and Mayweather. Both the sort of characters that you like but for entirely different reasons.
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Mayweather beats Cotto but you have to take into account a number of factors. At 154, Floyd may be a step slower and with bigger gloves it may mean Cotto's face holds up.

Mayweather at 154 wasn't as impressive against Oscar either.

Cotto has lost to a boxer and a boxer puncher, Floyd is a pure boxer so it will be interesting as Cotto has underrated boxing skills.

That said Floyd schools Cotto, it'll go the distance unless Cotto's face fails him. Cotto will try make it interesting but Floyd will step up the level and firmly show him who is boss.
 
I'd want Mayweather to win so that he fights Manny but that's never happening so I hope he loses.

I hope Chisora destroys the cnut. Will they be able to fight in the UK or is Chisora still suspended?
 
pocco said:
I doubt anyone cares anymore, since they're both cnuts, but it was said last night that Haye and Chisora will fight this summer.
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Are you saying that you would not like to see that fight?

As for Mayweather - Cotto.

Cotto has always acted with dignity in and out of the ring, quite the opposite of Mayweather and for that reason I want Cotto win. I just can't make a good case in my mind for how Cotto can win though. Unless Mayweather has aged since his last time out then I can't see anything other than PBF comfortable points victory.
 
Hectic said:
Cotto won't last 12 rounds.
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Perhaps

I think that Mayweather's power is underrated due to his generally defensive style and his reluctance to 'close the show' when he is comfortable in a fight. I feel that Cotto will have to hunt Mayweather down like Ricky Hatton did and in that situation Mayweather is forced to become a more devastating fighter, which is quite capable of.
 
Terrible stoppage in the Mccloskey - Corley fight. No doubt that Mccloskey would have gone down if he was clocked hard again but this is boxing. He was far from out on his feet in my opinion.

A loss against Corley is a terrible thing to have on your record if you aspire to a World Class status. Corley was 2-8 in his last ten fights and has lost numerous fights against decent opponents.

McCloskey was magnanimous in his post fight interview, didn't really complain about the stoppage, perhaps it wasn't such a bad decision.
 
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