Very good.
The Netherlands (Holland) Euro 2024 Squad & Discussion
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Very good.
How can you not select Maatsen... He is a left (wing) back but even as left forward he would be a better option than Bergwijn.
Wijnaldum isnt exactly a great player anymore either. I guess his experience and being one of Koeman his favorites makes him get picked over Feyenoord player Timber. I dont like it but leaving your only attacking left back home is ridiculous. Ake and van der Ven are good but their strenght is mostly in defending. Blind his strenght is his experience but he is too slow to go forward. Blind had a very good season but he did have that season as a centre back. Not a left back.
Hopefully Koeman is gone after the Euros and Peter Bosz becomes the manager. Although im not sure he would be open to leaving PSV now.
Wijnaldum isnt exactly a great player anymore either. I guess his experience and being one of Koeman his favorites makes him get picked over Feyenoord player Timber. I dont like it but leaving your only attacking left back home is ridiculous. Ake and van der Ven are good but their strenght is mostly in defending. Blind his strenght is his experience but he is too slow to go forward. Blind had a very good season but he did have that season as a centre back. Not a left back.
Hopefully Koeman is gone after the Euros and Peter Bosz becomes the manager. Although im not sure he would be open to leaving PSV now.
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No Maatsen and fecking Bergwijn 
If we play with a back 4, I can see Maatsen missing the call up as we have vd Ven, Ake, Blind, who regularly play there.. If we play in a back 5 with wingbacks, leaving Maatsen out is absolutely insane... But we play in a back 4 so if you ask me...
Noa Lang in stead of Bergwijn
Zirkzee in stead of Weghorst
Q Timber in stead of Wijnaldum
J Timber in stead of Geertruida
De Roon in stead of Gravenberch (not based on potential, but on current form/profile)
And the squad would have been perfect..
Noa Lang in stead of Bergwijn
Zirkzee in stead of Weghorst
Q Timber in stead of Wijnaldum
J Timber in stead of Geertruida
De Roon in stead of Gravenberch (not based on potential, but on current form/profile)
And the squad would have been perfect..
Do we play in a back 4??
The four you prefer are all our injured. Jurien played one match after being out all season.
Not to mention Noa Lang is overrated as feck and a dumb twat who should be tried in The Hague for his crimes against rap music.
Everyone hates Feyenoord, big deal. I just cannot imagine how anyone in the universe can like Noa Lang.You just say that because Lang hates Feyenoord!
Fans of the club he plays for not withstanding of course.
He was a shitty little nonce with a made horrible accent.
He's a nonce?
I might have misinterpreted the meaning of that word but i wouldn't surprise me.He's a nonce?
I thought it just meant a dick.Figured as muchI might have misinterpreted the meaning of that word but i wouldn't surprise me.
I meant in general..
But I also have the gut feeling that Koeman is in some scenario's 'using' the injuires/minor injuries card as an excuse not to make choices or to make his choices easier.. It's easier to come to a final squad when you convince yourself and others that Zirkzee de Roon Q Timber J Timber Wieffer Lang Berghuis arent options because of their fitness, even though the might still be able to play a role in the Championship.. Not saying those should all be in there and for some of them their are probably good reasons not to take/consider them, but overall its my feeling he is making it himself easy..
I do think so we did so against Scotland in our last friendly, but against Germany is was a back 5.. Overall I'd say not bringing Maatsen is a big mistake if we intend so switch to a back 5 in certain games..
Can't believe he called up Blind instead of Maatsen. Terrible decision. Same with bringing WIjnaldum along, but I guess that's OK as long as he doesn't play: there aren't any particular Dutch midfielders missing form that squad.
It's also actually a pretty decent team again, with a lot of younger players that should continue to be available for a few more tournaments - but damn does it need one or two great goal scorers up front! Gakpo and Malen are pretty alright, but not as the main guy, an improvement on Memphis is really needed! (But I don't think there's even anyone come through the ranks in attack...?)
It's also actually a pretty decent team again, with a lot of younger players that should continue to be available for a few more tournaments - but damn does it need one or two great goal scorers up front! Gakpo and Malen are pretty alright, but not as the main guy, an improvement on Memphis is really needed! (But I don't think there's even anyone come through the ranks in attack...?)
Joshua Zirkzee is developing very well. Had a good season at Bologna and think Milan want him.
Koeman called up Weghorst and Brobbey instead though...
Yeah, but isn't he already basically on his second run as an up and coming talent? Not that that's a problem, I wouldn't mind another late bloomer like Van Nistelrooij or Stam - but I'm just not too hopeful of him reaching a level beyond Memphis (who has been very useful for the national team of course, but not a top-level striker).
He's only just turned 23 last month, so there is still time. For me it's hard to judge him because his entire career consists of being on loan and not being a consistent starter until now. Let's hope he goes to Milan and found his "home" in Italy so he can steadily progress. We won't be getting any new Ruud's and RVP's anytime soon, even reaching a level beyond Memphis is hard to imagine, but if he can do similar things at a top team in Italy like Memphis did at Lyon that would be amazing.
He just turned 23 and is already at a level that for instance Luuk de Jong never reached. Scoring in a top league. His technique is really really good as well. Bery elegant player. Though npt a goal machine like Ruud for instance.
I might have misinterpreted the meaning of that word but i wouldn't surprise me.
Bring Frimpong to United please
Am I missing something here but why wasn't Frimpong's goal called offside for Brobbey's interference by literally standing in front of the keeper and blocking him?!
I know it's a friendly so I'm assuming no VAR? Keeper may not have saved it but that's besides the point.
Edit: Oh wait, perhaps the Canadian player sliding off the pitch is still considered onside, in which case is the obstruction by Brobbey a foul? Hm, probably not.
Is Wout playing?
No. Wout said in an interview that Koeman told him that he wont be a starter.
Not a suprise really. Memphis will always be Koeman his starting striker.
Shame Zikzee is injured.
Not taking Maatsen is ridiculous too.
Not taking Maatsen is ridiculous too.
No Frenkie..
Maatsen called up to replace De Jong.
Missing Frenkie is too bad, but in all honesty, when was the last time he really took us by the hand in a bkg match? He was a non entity in the last WC and Euro's. The period we reached the Nation's league final he was fantastic, but that was much closer to his Ajax days.
I'm kind of dissappointed with how he turned out. When he left Ajax I was completely convinced he would be a top 5 midfielder for his entire career. He just shouldn't have gone to thay shitpile of a club. He needs a chance of scenery.
He's still our best midfielder, but Schouten isn't exactly terrible either and he obviously complements Veerman fantastically.
Missing Frenkie is too bad, but in all honesty, when was the last time he really took us by the hand in a bkg match? He was a non entity in the last WC and Euro's. The period we reached the Nation's league final he was fantastic, but that was much closer to his Ajax days.
I'm kind of dissappointed with how he turned out. When he left Ajax I was completely convinced he would be a top 5 midfielder for his entire career. He just shouldn't have gone to thay shitpile of a club. He needs a chance of scenery.
He's still our best midfielder, but Schouten isn't exactly terrible either and he obviously complements Veerman fantastically.
Maybe it's cognitive dissonance but I think this could be a blessing in disguise. Now that his absence is clear for anyone players can no longer hope or anticipate on Frenkie to show up. They know what is up and Frenkie's replacements now know they will play the entire tournament. Also, even if Frenkie was able to play at a certain point I doubt he would be completely free in his head and that might give so much pressure on both him and the team that this would create an unhealthy form of expectation.
Koopmeiners out as well and now Brobbey left the training injured. These two both arent irreplacable, but Koopmeiners would've been a very solid option on midfield.
Dropping like flies! What's going on there? Brobbey would likely have been mostly useless, but Koopmeiners plus De Jong both out isn't great for midfield.
Zirkzee called up now anyway. Would be nice if he actually plays a bit, but I doubt it.
Seems to me like it would be probably be an improvement to replace Brobbey with Zirkzee - except it now seems rather like two midfielders were replaced by a striker and an LB! (Although Maatsen might be used in a more forward role, like Frimpong.)
Very nice clip to get us in the mood.
Looks like Dumfries will start, so I expect Simons at RW and Frimpong on the bench.
Made it way harder than necessary. Should've been about 4-1 up at half time.
Great for Wout though and with the numbers 3 going through. We're probably through.
Great for Wout though and with the numbers 3 going through. We're probably through.
Think you need 4 points to seal it. Hoping for a France implosion with Netherlands coming out on top of the group which could pave the way for a Belgium-Netherlands quarterfinal which hasn't occurred yet, atleast not in my lifetime.
We would probably dodge Portugal that way, so I'm hoping with you.
Somehow there is always the hope with Memphis that he will actually be good. But as usual Memphis has 1 or 2 moments that make you think he can do something but overall he is just average at best.
Maybe against better judgement i had high hopes for Veerman. After the year he had with PSV i hoped he could have been our 'Ali Express' version of Kroos.
Maybe against better judgement i had high hopes for Veerman. After the year he had with PSV i hoped he could have been our 'Ali Express' version of Kroos.
The lack in bench options is worrying on midfield (and attack) with missing out on Lang Koopmeiners Frenkie Q Timber de Roon
Wijnaldum as first option midfield sub is just sad.. He is even worse than I thought he would be..
Wijnaldum as first option midfield sub is just sad.. He is even worse than I thought he would be..