The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked

Is Mourinho’s time as United manager up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2,296 77.1%
  • No

    Votes: 293 9.8%
  • Not yet - needs more time to see if he can turn it around

    Votes: 388 13.0%

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Exactly. Mourinho is only half the problem. The quality of our players is the other half. Why players such as Mahrez, De Ligt or Thiago were not pursued given their obvious need is a question that needs addressing.
That's why it's better to give him until May, if we don't completely implode obviously. And plan early for the arrival of a new manager, who can get some of his own signings in.
 
I’m one of his biggest fans, today was the first day I actually thought that maybe he isn’t the man for the job.

I still feel it’s not all his fault there’s is a level of mediocrity in this club starting from top to bottom.

The type of football we are playing is inexcusable I’m truly unsure what are our next approach should be.

Holy hell was this confusing until I noticed the underscore :lol:
 
Mourinho stopped the rot that LvG had set in. Unfortunately, he's lost the dressing room in the process. The team simply aren't buying into his philosophy and there's no indication that they will.

It's what happens sometimes.

Fergie was a rare manager who could
  • Change a team's fortunes
  • Then lead them on to success.
Not everyone can.

Thanks for achieving the first part, Jose. You're still a top coach, but you've exhausted your goodwill capital getting us this far. Time to go. Both you and United will be better off if you do.
 
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How about, we get Di Matteo with Avram Grant as his assistant. The chances of winning the CL should be pretty high.:)
 
3 more games till the 2 week international break could be a very decisive week and a bit coming up...
 
:lol: what happened to the Jose in Thread? Can we open it so we can listen to these fans a bit more clearly than in here.

Loving it.
 
That's why it's better to give him until May, if we don't completely implode obviously. And plan early for the arrival of a new manager, who can get some of his own signings in.

Unless a quality replacement can be arranged before the January window, I agree there’s no real point in sacking Mourinho now. However, I just cannot abide the football we’re playing. This is more down to the tactics instilled in the players and I can’t see that changing until Mourinho is gone.
 
Mourinho stopped the rot that LvG had set in. Unfortunately, he's lost the dressing room in the process. The team simply aren't buying his philosophy and there's no indication that they will.

It's what happens sometimes.

Fergie was a rare manager who could
  • Change a team's fortunes
  • Then lead them on to success.
Not everyone can.

Thanks for achieving the first part, Jose. You're still a top coach, but you've exhausted your goodwill capital getting us this far. Time to go. Both you and United will be better off if you do.
I agree.

I think it's pretty much guaranteed that he will go. The only question is when.
 
:lol: what happened to the Jose in Thread? Can we open it so we can listen to these fans a bit more clearly than in here.

Loving it.
seems someone is enjoying a lot these days. I bet you hope united lose so that you can come up with these sort of digs
 
He’s not. You are being to soft. Lukaku belongs in Everton not United. He can’t finish. He can’t hold the ball. He can’t dribble nor can he link up plays. He is useless and you should see it too.

Nothing personal, but that's just bullshit, 27/28 goals in his first season in a side that wasn't set-up to play to his strengths was sensational.
 
He’s not. You are being to soft. Lukaku belongs in Everton not United. He can’t finish. He can’t hold the ball. He can’t dribble nor can he link up plays. He is useless and you should see it too.

If we can replace him with a better option with similar or better numbers than him in prime of his age, than sure, but are any of those options available or are we talking about all hypothetical circumstances?
 
I always assumed that he must have had a say in all the transfers, but we can't know really. I'm pretty sure that Ibrahimovic came because of Mourinho though. He had to have wanted Matic also.

I think the biggest problem Mourinho has had, is the defence and having so many CB's but none of them seem to work out. I mean, look at all the different CB pairings we've had under Mourinho.

Im pretty sure it was acknowledged the club couldnt turn down Sanchez and he wasnt exactly Joses target. I agree with the CBs. You expect Mourinho to sort out a defense. Thats my biggest critique of him.
 
We have so many problems, it’s giving me shivers. feck the club at the moment, really. It’s just depressing me all this negativity. Jose leaving will barely make any difference, we need fundamental changes. Time to lower our expectations, wake up and smell the coffee.. we are going nowhere in the next 2 years. Rot from the core as other people have said. This transformation will require patience and time.
 
Why the feck isn't he out yet?

I think the board didnt wanna admit they made the wrong hire for the 3rd time.
Yet Pogba is putting pressure on them to own up to it.
Its merely the optics for the board but things are probably much worse than they anticipated, not only in terms of results but also the seemingly imminent dressing room implosion. The board will soon have no option but to face this head on.

I really appreciate Pogba for it. While the board is about setting the narrative and indifferent to bad results, Pogba isnt and is putting the pressure. Love him for that.
 
Unless a quality replacement can be arranged before the January window, I agree there’s no real point in sacking Mourinho now. However, I just cannot abide the football we’re playing. This is more down to the tactics instilled in the players and I can’t see that changing until Mourinho is gone.
The thing is, we don't know what the biggest problem is, if it's the tactics or the players not being good enough. I think it's a bit of both. Adding just a few players by the new manager in the summer could make a big difference. Players who will blend well with what we have.
 
Nothing personal, but that's just bullshit, 27/28 goals in his first season in a side that wasn't set-up to play to his strengths was sensational.


Yet in his second season when the side was set up to play to his strength he scored 16 goals in 36 games.
 
Regardless, it shouldn't get you kicked out of a ground! Punishment in no way fits the crime
It could cause fights between fans. We've seen this sort of thing happen before most recently between West Ham supporters. Sounds like the guy was just there to cause trouble and it's up to the stewards to make sure that doesn't happen. It's harsh but fair in my opinion.
 
The club cocked it up. To not hire Jose after Sir Alex is about as dumb as you can get because at that time, the players had the right mentality and the gap wasn't as big. People need to accept the fact that the club needs to recognize it's problems. The fact that we're so slow and lack ambition should tell people we're going one way and it ain't the right way. Even with 6 mins to go, they lacked urgency. Other then the goal, there was a time we would bombard teams. These players are better at social media then playing football at the minute.
 
Im pretty sure it was acknowledged the club couldnt turn down Sanchez and he wasnt exactly Joses target. I agree with the CBs. You expect Mourinho to sort out a defense. Thats my biggest critique of him.
The thing with Sanchez though, was that pretty much everyone agreed that it was a good move. He seems like a Jose type of player as well. I don't see why he wouldn't want him. Having said that, you definitely can't put that on Mourinho, as no one could anticipate that he wouldn't deliver.
 
seems someone is enjoying a lot these days. I bet you hope united lose so that you can come up with these sort of digs
Of course he does. All I saw was a bunch of green Smileys from people after Jones missed the penalty. It's pathetic.
 
The club cocked it up. To not hire Jose after Sir Alex is about as dumb as you can get because at that time, the players had the right mentality and the gap wasn't as big. People need to accept the fact that the club needs to recognize it's problems. The fact that we're so slow and lack ambition should tell people we're going one way and it ain't the right way. Even with 6 mins to go, they lacked urgency. Other then the goal, there was a time we would bombard teams. These players are better at social media then playing football at the minute.

Why ? Most of the senior figures at the club didn't want the guy anywhere near the club, and for good reason.
 
Ive never liked Mourhino, obviously from when he was at Chelsea. I remember enjoying his last meltdown at Chelsea with the physio and thinking it was all great.
Then he became our manager and to be fair I was behind him from the start, watching all the mutv behind the scenes of him meeting Fergie and Charlton and feeling really optimistic thinking yes we’re back on it here, this is what he’s wanted and he’s going to change and become ours for many years, the Pogba signing and him meeting all the dinner ladies all smiles and being welcomed home, signing Zlatan, really thinking surely we’re back in it now, the future looked bright.

Now we’re a couple of years down the line and it’s all disappeared, doom and gloom everywhere you turn. I’ve still been behind Mourinho the whole time, obviously every time we play we hope for the win and it to go well for the manager but it’s getting more and more testing to keep watching this and hoping for something to magically happen. It’s really starting to look like it’s time for a change.

I know it’s a league cup game and we’ve gone out to worse teams many times over the last few decades but there was always optimism for the next game and the defeat was a one off, unfortunately this is now becoming the norm, there’s no zip to our passing, there’s no pure bursts of energy from our players, it’s all so lethargic, no plan, no keeping the ball for any decent amount of time, it all seems a mess with no signs of change, just more false dawns.

I’m at a loss to even know what would be best at this point.
 
The thing is, we don't know what the biggest problem is, if it's the tactics or the players not being good enough. I think it's a bit of both. Adding just a few players by the new manager in the summer could make a big difference. Players who will blend well with what we have.

It genuinely can't be the players if you cannot look like a cohesive team and get dominated by the likes of derby.
 
Too much overanalyzing here.
We played at home against Derby and made sure we had five or six players behind the ball at all times. Even in possession. Sometimes seven.
This is not a player issue.
 
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