We could just play someone alongside him in a two, try and use his strengths to our advantage. His attitude ain't a problem and goal scoring rate is better than even the likes of Drogba. If we used Cole and Yorke effectively in the past we can use his strengths to our advantage as well. We can't go from one extreme to another extreme again and again, there has got to be some stability in the squad now.
The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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We could just play someone alongside him in a two, try and use his strengths to our advantage. His attitude ain't a problem and goal scoring rate is better than even the likes of Drogba. If we used Cole and Yorke effectively in the past we can use his strengths to our advantage as well. We can't go from one extreme to another extreme again and again, there has got to be some stability in the squad now.
I don't say that Mourinho didn't make any mistakes. Of course he has to shoulder some of the blame, but i don't think that showing him the door at this stage of the season would be the correct answer for most of the problems. A managerial change during the season is difficult and most of the class coaches wouldn't do it. They would be judged immediately but their style of play wouldn't be there.
Why will we go nowhere with Mourinho at the helm? Maybe we don't, maybe we do, how can anyone know that? If Mourinho starts talking about traitors and we start losing consistenly to the likes of Newcastle, then Mourinho's got to go, but we're not there yet and it's very debatable whether we will go there eventually.
Still , Jose playing poor football would finish above wenger that we can guarantee.
So we have to completely implode before we react? Nah, don't think so.
That's unfair he's improved us over where we were with LVG but we now need someone else
Progress.
Goal scoring rate means nothing if you're just flat track bullying relegation fodders or scoring when it's 3-0 or 4-0. He scored 4 goals in WC and were second I believe in top goal scorers in tournament, but the 4 were against Tunisia and Panama. Lukaku was also playing as a lone striker in Everton.
Out of all other attackers, he's the only whose all mistakes he had done were things feared by fans when we got him. We hoped he'll improve them here though.
In the past, yeah. Can you say that now though? With the exact same teams?
I don't actually get that. Surely the money we'd lose by not qualifying to next season's Champions League will be far higher than whatever we have to pay a sacked manager...
The team is in shambles and we are out of contention for 2 trophies with another competition being very unlikely to succeed in (UCL). We are aiming for top 4, however we aren't looking good on that front either with Chelsea having a good start and Spurs and Arsenal being above us. To make matters worse, our biggest rivals are the undeniable best 2 teams in England, playing great football, and we are well under way to (again) having to hope that City win the title so Liverpool doesn't get it.
It's really hard to see a light at the end of the tunnel with Mourinho right now. Pay the man and get it over with, although the way the club is run doesn't inspire any confidence in future success after Mou is gone.
It's really hard to see a light at the end of the tunnel with Mourinho right now. Pay the man and get it over with, although the way the club is run doesn't inspire any confidence in future success after Mou is gone.
He spent a fortune in transfers and wages for sure but I have seen very little improvement.
That's your problem then
Yeah, pretty much.
Has Mourinho started to implode yet? Can you give me examples? Just because he's unhappy on how things are going doesn't mean that he privately insults everyone around him and isn't employable at the moment. Media loves a good shit stirring, that's their way of making money.
Most of the class coaches wouldn't do what ? I don't get that part of your post.
Hello, we're consistently not winning against the likes of Newcastle and even worst teams. Your love for Mourinho makes you tolerant to some ridiculous stuff. Let's wait and see and when he finally fecks off, we'll see where the club is at
That's true. I just think we have spent to much on players who aren't good enough. Of course, that's on Mourinho. We have also kept too many midtable level players.
We've just been outplayed by Derby. This doesn't wash.
I’m not a UTD fan and it pains me the shit your having to put up with , Mourinho is not a UTD manager, he has gone against all your principles and changed your style of play , his buys have all flopped and cost a lot of money, his attitude in the summer set the tone for 18/19 and will cost him his job sooner or later .
Stand up for your club and get him out like we did with Hodgson, it gets to a point where enough is enough ,GET RID
Stand up for your club and get him out like we did with Hodgson, it gets to a point where enough is enough ,GET RID
I’d argue it’s yours. We were a better football team under Van Gaal. Under Mourinho we’ve just got better players. Still shite going forward yet without the possession.
Why is it on Mourinho? We dont know which players he has had his hand in. Its becoming obvious Sanchez wasnt his deal and most likely neither was Pogba. Also he isnt responsible for LVG/Moyes buys.
It's not that we haven't made some progress under Mourinho (at least on paper) during his reign. It's that for the money he's spent getting players he wanted - what exactly are we meant to be impressed by? And now it's going backwards...
oh Ive fecking heard it all now. I remember it was we were a better team under Moyes and LVG.,Sack Mou, sell Pogba.
Meh.. doesn't have the nice rolls as Sack Fergie, sell Giggs.
Meh.. doesn't have the nice rolls as Sack Fergie, sell Giggs.
Cant make the team look easy on the eye. Can't keep the ball. Too slow at the build up and pressing the oppositions. Voted no before because it's too early in the season but game after another I lose trust in this guy.
The sooner the better. Sack him.
The sooner the better. Sack him.
What would compensation be if we fired him? 21 months left on his contract at probably £1m a month. That’s a £21m knock right off our profits. I think we just announced profits of ~£45m. That’s almost half our profits knocked off just to get rid of him. feck all chance of that happening (note I’ve assumed we would replace him with a manager on a similar salary, and this is also ignoring possible compensation for taking another manager).
Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I realise there is zero chance until the no champions league clause kicks in.
Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I realise there is zero chance until the no champions league clause kicks in.
IIRC it was in Jose first interview when he spoke about the history of Manchester United and how the previous 3 years didn't reflect who the club was, or something along those lines. He seems to have forgotten that himself now. From the style of play to the off the pitch nonsense, this club has turned into a joke the past 6 months or so. You don't expect to see Barcelona parking the bus against Atleti or Madrid and hoping to get a point, there's certain clubs that attacking aesthetically pleasing football is a requirement along with results. We've fallen so far that it's now one or the other and bad results are blamed on the us actually trying to attack other teams. Now this is by no means all Jose's fault, but he has done very little to correct it and his deflection tactics are tiresome. It's time to move on! Yes, we may win the next 2 games or so and that will be another band aid on bullet wound. Until the inevitable happens and we cut ties with Jose.
Under LVG a shot on goal got a cheer such was the dour nature of the football. Anyone who denies improvement under Mourinho is fuelled by an agenda
But again my stance is that we now need a change before anyone argues I'm pro Mourinho
A much better Morata ain't doing any better, so we should be happy with what we have got and hope better tactics and coaching improves him, which ain't happening under mourinho. Just scour outside, there are not enough no 9 better than what lukaku can do unless you are looking at 30 plus year olds. At least he is scoring by bullying, I'll take it with some improvement with the tactics.
We'll see. I predict Lukaku won't be here in 2 years max. Won't be surprised if the next manager binned him for Rashford and Martial all together.
That would my take on it, too,
What site shows distance covered? Felt like we ran half as much as Derby tonight. Pathetic.
He's done. But we're too crap a club to do the right thing.
I'm starting to actually pity - Jose, not something I ever thought possible!!!
He's done. But we're too crap a club to do the right thing.
I'm starting to actually pity - Jose, not something I ever thought possible!!!
You are not hoping to land Kane are you?
I always assumed that he must have had a say in all the transfers, but we can't know really. I'm pretty sure that Ibrahimovic came because of Mourinho though. He had to have wanted Matic also.
I think the biggest problem Mourinho has had, is the defence and having so many CB's but none of them seem to work out. I mean, look at all the different CB pairings we've had under Mourinho.
This all the way. Lukaku has gotten all the supply he needed to be up there with Mitrovic by now. As a fan of football, and Manchester United, anyone who has played a little can see that Lukaku doesn’t have it. Big and strong yes. So is Benteke, a similar player and look what Klopp did with Benteke. #Lukakuout
I didn't regret buying him, as the other options were Morata and Lacazette.
However, that doesn't mean he's the striker worthy of leading Manchester United line. He's for me a mere stop gap till someone elite becomes available.
I agree - if the next manager likes his technical players he won't have anytime for Lukaku
The coaches who are proven, ambitious and want to lay down a marker, why do they want to start working for United during the season, where there are problems within the team and you can't bring in one of your guys, but you will be judged immediately on results. Some people still think that because of the 3 games which Giggs had he isn't a good enough coach. Ridiculous.
I think it's good to have the overall package of Mourinho in the executive, but i stand by on what i said in other threads. I wouldn't sell Paul Pogba just to please Mourinho. Special players such as Pogba or Hazard you don't sell for a coach who has still a lot to prove, so if it comes down to this, i'd back Pogba. I don't like it, but that's modern day football. Hazard is still running the show at Chelsea, so will be Paul Pogba because he's also got what it takes.
If the United board decides now that Mourinho's time is up, then that would be it. I can speak only personally, but i think it's too early. What i get is that a lot of people want United playing with flair, attacking intent and joy. Mourinho isn't all that, over the course of a season he will most likely get results, but during most games it's a tough watch and the opponents will have lots of possession. These things aren't new so i wonder why so many people wanted to bring in Mourinho. Furthermore Mourinho isn't a miracle worker, against the ability of the players City have he can't get ordinary defenders to sort it out. He will try and get it done, but it can't be expected. A player such as Varane would do a world of good, but we didn't get someone like him.
I can only hope if Jose were to leave then 6 or so of these so called players a fecked out of this club.
Still rotten to the core. We are a joke of a club ran by idiots. Club and players want easy money and social media followers. Effort and results don’t count.
Disgrace.
Still rotten to the core. We are a joke of a club ran by idiots. Club and players want easy money and social media followers. Effort and results don’t count.
Disgrace.
Progress.
Had the same thought!
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