You literally did the same with LvG
The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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You literally did the same with LvG
Bad bad, total inept, there not playing for him, he's gone got to go, and I would not bring in another manager who's old school, give it to younger blood. It's time now. Give it to Giggs if you have to.
So which one of you done this?
For the record, there is literally 0000000000 chance this is true. It absolutely did not happen and I would bet good money on it.
So which one of you done this?
So what?
He should be sacked. He's not good enough.
I would be Mourinho out if there are better candidates around. We're in a bad position right now.
A security guy on her Twitter is confirming he did get kicked out so
I think its time to have a manger that isnt carried by his reputation alone.
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I was a supporter of Mou through the end of last season. We won trophies and qualified for the CL. Three things changed my mind:
1. The disturbing article in The Athletic that reports that he doesn’t have a philosophy for attacking, just defence. His approach has been to buy great attacking talent and concentrate training sessions on defence. I dont believe you can win these days without an attacking identity.
2. The non stop whining about the lack of transfers. It degrades your current team, the new players coming in, and sets a negative attitude to start the campaign.
3. The Pogba affair. If you are unhappy with him, sell him. He was wildly inconsistent last season. Nobody would have cared if you sold him and brought in replacements.
I expect him to be sacked sometime in the next 5 matches. Caretaker for the rest of the season, then shop for a new manager in the spring and summer.
1. The disturbing article in The Athletic that reports that he doesn’t have a philosophy for attacking, just defence. His approach has been to buy great attacking talent and concentrate training sessions on defence. I dont believe you can win these days without an attacking identity.
2. The non stop whining about the lack of transfers. It degrades your current team, the new players coming in, and sets a negative attitude to start the campaign.
3. The Pogba affair. If you are unhappy with him, sell him. He was wildly inconsistent last season. Nobody would have cared if you sold him and brought in replacements.
I expect him to be sacked sometime in the next 5 matches. Caretaker for the rest of the season, then shop for a new manager in the spring and summer.
I think plenty of people would've cared if they sold Pogba this summer.
If Jose gets sacks, what do you think will happen to McKenna and Carrick? I doubt if the new manager will want both on his staff, one may be at most.
You're looking for a big reputation answer aren't you?
For everyone who thinks there's no one out there to replace our present (and disappointing) manager, the answer doesnt always have to be a big name. It can be someone with big potential too. I find it hard to believe that even those don't exist purely to suit Mourinho staying.
Personally I'd do everything to convince Zidane to come. Otherwise, go for talented manager with an impressive vision (like Dortmund got Klopp, Spurs got Pochettino, Atletico got Someone etc).
I'm not saying we should sack him immediately. But if things get worse to a point that we are practically out of top 4 race by December, just go ahead and sack him instead of waiting till April for us to be "mathematically" out of top 4. Moyes and LVG stayed too long. We need to be more decisive.
This weekend should be his final game to prove his metal. If he looses it or performance is piss poor he needs to get sacked. This will put us back double figures with likes of Pool.
Managers actually doing well and making their name instead of living off past glory?
To reference something I said back in 2016 when the Mourinho was first announced:
Mourinho to United | Officially Announced
I said at the time that I would have taken Guardiola over Mourinho every time and I wish I'd have been proven wrong.
Mourinho to United | Officially Announced
I said at the time that I would have taken Guardiola over Mourinho every time and I wish I'd have been proven wrong.
It’s a long, slow goodbye now, I suspect. I don’t think it’s a matter of whether Mourinho leaves, but when. Will the club take decisive action in an effort to steady the ship and correct course? I very much doubt it. They’re much more likely to let the situation fester until the season is beyond saving (if it isn’t already). Inaction by the club will make things worse. They have to decide who they’re backing. They either need to sack Jose now, or very publicly back him and allow Mourinho to let Pogba rot in the reserves if he so decides. Again, though, I don’t think the club has the moxy to take a stand one way or the other at this point. I swear, it must break Sir Alex’s heart to see the current state of the club.
If Woodward had bought Aldeireweld we wouldn't be getting outplayed by Derby at OT
One huge negative under Jose is that our club lacks an identity. What kind of team are we? Every top team has their well-drilled style of play. What's ours? One game we are pressing and running. Next game, we sit back and pass sideways. One day, we show great attacking intent with quick passing and nice movement. The very next game, we can't even make 5-yard passes.
Jose goes on and on about commitment and giving 100% on the pitch. This is true of course. But how many times have we heard commentators say that United never got out of second gear but still won the game under Fergie. We should be a well-oiled machine and be able to outclass teams with our quality even when they are putting in more effort than us.
Jose has been here for 3 years. This is fully his team now. So why are the players still not able to read other players' movement. Why are we still playing like strangers. I seriously now believe that Jose doesn't coach the team on how to attack. All he does is drill them defensively. But even then, why don't we press and play. Which big team sits back and gives the opposition freedom?
All the fundamentals are wrong. Rashford and Martial are regressing. Pogba wants to leave. Lukaku and Sanchez are underperforming. Except De Gea, the whole team plays below par. You can't individually blame all 10 outfield players. If the players fail to perform or atleast give their all, whose fault is it? Jose getting the sack seems inevitable now. It's only a matter of time.
Jose goes on and on about commitment and giving 100% on the pitch. This is true of course. But how many times have we heard commentators say that United never got out of second gear but still won the game under Fergie. We should be a well-oiled machine and be able to outclass teams with our quality even when they are putting in more effort than us.
Jose has been here for 3 years. This is fully his team now. So why are the players still not able to read other players' movement. Why are we still playing like strangers. I seriously now believe that Jose doesn't coach the team on how to attack. All he does is drill them defensively. But even then, why don't we press and play. Which big team sits back and gives the opposition freedom?
All the fundamentals are wrong. Rashford and Martial are regressing. Pogba wants to leave. Lukaku and Sanchez are underperforming. Except De Gea, the whole team plays below par. You can't individually blame all 10 outfield players. If the players fail to perform or atleast give their all, whose fault is it? Jose getting the sack seems inevitable now. It's only a matter of time.
Not anyone who has a deep understanding of the game. He’s a show pony with lots of style but little substance. That’s why he drives the pundits crazy.
I can name 10 midfielders I’d rather have than him.
The point is, Mourinho recognized this, and instead of moving him on, he tried to change him.
The whole thing of getting in whoever is available isn't going to help the club in general. The club at the moment seems to be lacking any vision or any kind of idea as to what they are looking for. To get a player with impressive vision, we might need to define a vision. At the same time, we need to find a manager who fit in that vision and then give him lot of time and backing to show the mettle.
But I doubt if there is anyone at the club, who has that much footballing brain
While I think Jose is looking more and more of a goner, I really don't see any advantage of firing Jose yet. Unless of course there is a big player revolt, in case of which the results will show and he will be gone.
In other words, I think we will be in same position if we fire Jose now or by end of season.
Right because all that can separate championship world beaters Derby County from a €350m squad is another 50m defender...
Washes up has-been. Whenever he goes I hope Pogba and Woodward go with him.
Think he will get us in the top 4 and keep his job.
I don't see the point in Mouringo staying either. Every club replaces non performing assets with the best available alternative. That's what we did when we fired Moyes, Lvg etc. That's how it works whether it be ragarding managers or players. I doubt most of the caf would be in favour of sticking with Phil Jones because a ready made Baresi isn't available in the market.
Besides, Zidane is available so there is someone top class out there.
I do think our basics are wrong - in that we should have some sort of plan/vision as a football club but that doesn't mean we should hang on to our non performing manager/players till such time (which may not come for a long time).
that's the joke my guy
Did Zidane promote youth/academy players whilst at RM?
I don't feel entitled. I don't even want trophies, I have had my fill under SAF. I just wanna enjoy watching football which isn't the game we play under Mourinho
Get rid of and ASAP, never has a sacking made more sense to me
Stop it, you arrogant bastard. How evil of you to expect Man Utd to beat Derby comfortably in the 3rd round of the League cup? That too coached by Frank Lampard of all people? Entitled, elitist bastard.
Mourinho's supporters are running out of excuses and the ones they come up make no sense anymore
Talking about "entitlement" now Is he still here
.Is the humiliation set to continue?
.Is the humiliation set to continue?Jose can leave but if even he can't fix us then who will?
Mourinho's supporters are running out of excuses and the ones they come up make no sense anymore
They’re an absolute joke. There is backing the manager and actually remembering that the clubs interests need to come first and foremost. I don’t see how still wanting Jose in charge is anything but a form of self-harm.
Some decent footballing brain, can easily fix it, we have hired two extremes on opposite line of thinking back to back. One just kept the ball and rotating it while not attacking and going for the kill, the other just don't keep the ball and takes a long ball route to give away the ball to opposition in 5 seconds to keep defending all the time after a goal up.
Just can't believe after so much of talented players we have allergies with creative effective ball possession, how can a football manager be comfortable when smaller teams are having it easy in terms of ball possession than his team is beyond my understanding.
If Jose stays we won’t get top four. No chance. If he goes, we have a strong chance as the players will be motivated and the style of play can’t get any worse than it currently is. It’s a no brainer.
I don't expect Ed Woodward to make any proactive wise decision what so ever.
We will stick to misguided idealism, until we drop out of top 4, then Woodward will act.
That is why Woodward should go as well. He’s an absolute moron when it comes to footballing decisions - he’s a spineless cnut. This is the only big club which holds on to managers way too long when we have made clear errors .. they keep thinking just because we were patient with Sir Alex, every stool will turn into a bar of gold if you give it long enough
Who is currently benefiting from Mourinho? Who is playing significantly better than under their previous manager? Who is he developing?
I think there's 1 single player. Maroune Fellaini. And while he's doing better individually than before, the team isnt benefiting due to the janky way we're using him as a DM who isnt a DM but actually becomes a CB, but then we have no DM.
I think there's 1 single player. Maroune Fellaini. And while he's doing better individually than before, the team isnt benefiting due to the janky way we're using him as a DM who isnt a DM but actually becomes a CB, but then we have no DM.
Don't take me wrong, I don't rate the squad at all. Having said that we've got enough talent to beat Wolves and Derby at home. If you ask me good old Mou is losing the dressing room again.
Ok gents here’s your extra rasher this morning ...
Most probably know by now as the club are being a bit loose by norms but Jose was ‘asked’ not to head off as planned (he had a family thing in London for the day) and be available for a meet with Ed at 12 later today. He just walked off, didn’t even reply
Don’t ask me more
Most probably know by now as the club are being a bit loose by norms but Jose was ‘asked’ not to head off as planned (he had a family thing in London for the day) and be available for a meet with Ed at 12 later today. He just walked off, didn’t even reply
Don’t ask me more
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