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The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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Can’t believe Mourinho’s comments post-match on Jones and Bailly. Utterly hung them out to dry with the attitude of them being a liability on penalties, but for some reason Derby’s defenders would be fine. Bent and Redknapp were genuinely shocked on Sky and I was too. He’s losing the dressing room. He can’t be doing anything but with those comments.
This 100%
I bet if someone dug out that site that shows you distances covered by teams we'd still be at the fecking foot of it. Joke.
55.4% now, it's like watching the markets 
If a coach isn't available then you still don't stick with the ones who is ripping the club apart. You can always appoint a caretaker one and still look for a permanent option you can appoint. It's been done before, time and time again.
I'd agree with most of this.
Don't think sacking Mourinho right now will magically transform us to a top side. I'm willing for both sides to part ways at the end of the season if things remain the same and we hover about the top 4 spot. It would have to take a drastic dip in form for me to tip over to the "sack Mourinho now" crowd, and even then it would be reactionary, hoping the next hire is enough to bring about the manager change jolt some sides see. I'd rather a new manager be brought in as the result of a well thought out process that also changes how we operate (maybe a DoF, bin Woodward/relegate him to finding sponsors, etc)
So yeah. Cool with him staying for now. Time is against him though. And I understand why a lot of people want him out.
Aside from anything else, I really don't like the axis of Sanchez & Lukaku as a pairing. I just don't think they help each other or are suited to do so.
Get onto zidane give him what he wants . Ask him does he want pogba. Get rid if he doesn’t . Sack Jose . Job done
I have no idea what he's trying to do anymore.
He's not being a defensive manager. He's not being an attacking manager. His fecking philosophy changes on a week to week basis. Plays on the front foot and attack Spurs at home but sit back and get dominated by Derby.
How does that make sense?
He's not being a defensive manager. He's not being an attacking manager. His fecking philosophy changes on a week to week basis. Plays on the front foot and attack Spurs at home but sit back and get dominated by Derby.
How does that make sense?
It's not straw man when you cannot beat teams who have far worst players than you. Your point only stands when facing teams with more or equal amounts of money and quality
I don't see the players or anyone having an issue with that. They are CB's, they're not suppose to be good at shooting.
He's muddling on from one game to the next?
Something might happen or it might not.
Like he's past caring, if you like.
Here differ our opinions. In my point of view Mourinho isn't the one ripping the club apart. He's trying, he's got what it takes and results are inconsistent. For me that's not enough to bring in a caretaker who most likely won't get just good results. Which of the previous caretakers did really work out?
I'm not happy, but i wait. I think we won't see a big bustup, but if we continue being inconsistent and the board decides to try something different next season, i get that.
Completely agree.
The excuse that 'sacking Mourinho now isn't going to transform into a top team overnight' is worthless. We don't need to be a top team to overcome some of the challenges we are facing now. Just some signs that we are progressing enough to outplay smaller clubs is enough for me. Then we take it from there.
It's a short term solution before attempting, Mourinho isn't working out. Whatever he is trying isn't working out, it's gonna take a long process to get the club back on the right tracks but Mourinho has to go. Sacking him won't be a magic solution but it is a necessary step
Avram Grant took Chelsea to the CL final I think, as an interim. Difference is, they had the players, and we don't.
Did you watch it? He made these two sound fecking incompetent, and for some reason all Derby’s players were going to be class at pens.
Sanchez not his deal? How do you come to that? How about Bailly Lindelof Miki Lukaku Pogba? None of them are/were consistant. His best signing was Ibra
It’s mental. This is a domino effect. The years after Fergie, the signings since then, David Gill out and a man with no experience in. On and on. Bad bad decisions.
Jose is becoming a bigger part of the problem - but him leaving fixes little in the end as we still need a squad overhaul which the board clearly didn’t allow. Further behind than ever before
Martial and Rashford are too young and inexperienced to do it for the entire season as well. We gave up on Shaw, but seems to turn it around now, at least up til now, I keep my hopes alive that lukaku can improve. When he doesn't have to play with his back to goal, the touch becomes of less importance while his pace and proper service to him in a quick tempo defenders could be scared to face him.
Well, as I said, we'll see.
I'd give it to McKenna. Get in a DoF and starts a proper process of finishing someone that fits.
Exactly. Mourinho is only half the problem. The quality of our players is the other half. Why players such as Mahrez, De Ligt or Thiago were not pursued given their obvious need is a question that needs addressing.
We got three points in the first game of Champions-League and 10 points out of 6 games. This isn't pretty, but far from not working out, IMO. As i said, our opinions differ, perhaps our entitlement too. For me the days of United dominating everything are long gone and in this strong competition, we're not the only shark in the water. If we continue losing, then Mourinho's gotta go, but for me the time isn't now.
So which one of you done this?
This is what I find most frustrating - it's not about signings, or style of play, we just look like the players have no real idea what they're supposed to be doing. As if we're relying on individual moments of talent - rather than drilling the side with any kind of match-plan. Which is weird as that is so at odds with Jose at Porto, Chelsea (1st time anyway), and Inter...
yeah. no improvement. just standstill. I dont know when I last enjoyed football thinking that this good feeling will persist. so many fecking false dawns
Mourinho has to go. But there also needs to be a clearout of players as we simply are with a squad full of substandard players. For me De Gea,Dalot,Shaw,Smalling,Baily,Matic,Fred,Peiera,Martial,Rashford,Lingard should stay but the rest can leave. Pogba is a primadonna just thinking about himself and not putting in a effort in most games. Bring in Roy Keane as part of the coaching team and let him at them. Start giving Chong,Gomes,Greenwood,Garner and co some minutes and see what they do. It's getting so bad I'm starting to miss Van Gaal. At least his team could pass the ball and he was not afraid to give youngsters a chance.
No, I just went by what you said. It depends how it was said though, I'll have to see for myself.
We're not going to bring a guy in that can't speak a word of English.
He’s not. You are being to soft. Lukaku belongs in Everton not United. He can’t finish. He can’t hold the ball. He can’t dribble nor can he link up plays. He is useless and you should see it too.
I’m one of his biggest fans, today was the first day I actually thought that maybe he isn’t the man for the job.
I still feel it’s not all his fault there’s is a level of mediocrity in this club starting from top to bottom.
The type of football we are playing is inexcusable I’m truly unsure what are our next approach should be.
I still feel it’s not all his fault there’s is a level of mediocrity in this club starting from top to bottom.
The type of football we are playing is inexcusable I’m truly unsure what are our next approach should be.
Well At least we can be guaranteed he can’t fall out with players.
Lukaku likes space & being on the end of things - where his strengths are most valuable & his weaknesses don't matter so much.
Then there's how we are trying to play.
That's going one way - and at the other end, the opposition always have a chance of getting in - he shores that up & we all complain about the style of play.
The rest of the time he's arguing with either some of the players or dickhead Woodward.
(just to expand on my theory that Mourinho is going through the motions a little bit)
Then there's how we are trying to play.
That's going one way - and at the other end, the opposition always have a chance of getting in - he shores that up & we all complain about the style of play.
The rest of the time he's arguing with either some of the players or dickhead Woodward.
(just to expand on my theory that Mourinho is going through the motions a little bit)
Why the feck isn't he out yet?
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