TBF I would be surprised if Lukaku starts against Liverpool. I think Mourinho is desparately trying to play him into form, but it seems like a lost cause.
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TBF I would be surprised if Lukaku starts against Liverpool. I think Mourinho is desparately trying to play him into form, but it seems like a lost cause.
So why was the same defence the 2nd best last year without us showing any better attacking this season? Herrera showed better at Bilbao than any of thise midfielders, that's why we went for him and not the likes of Milner. Fred was a vital part of a good Champions League side while Gini played at Newcastle, I'll accept you not mentioning Henderson who we obviously agree is shit (but under Klopp looks better than all our midfielders).
So we didn't deserve 2nd last year so what is the actual level of our squad and why does a manager who got us to overperform last season get to be allowed to get us to become worse this year? Why hasn't Jose improved us?
We lost. 2-1. But it’s okay we had four shots on target. It’s not even about the result, it’s the tactics. And it’s not about this game as a one off, it’s literally every game recently bar Fulham where we have performed like that.
We will get a result against Liverpool and that will be him safe until the CL knock outs roll around.
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every time they attacked we look like conceding. Every time we attacked I knew Lukaku would do something funny and lose possession. They played like as if they were Barcelona and they simply waltzed through our midfield.
Who are the 310, I'm guessing some rival supporters but the rest!?
He's over the hill; he's become the managerial equivalent of Wayne Rooney stumbling about the pitch giving the ball away all the time. It baffles me that people can't see that.
The sooner he leaves the better.
The sooner he leaves the better.
Some genuine pre-season relegation candidates in there.
It's actually terrifying just how bad we are this season. Below is the same period of time, start of the season to the last CL Group Game.
Win Rate:
Moyes - 13/14 - 54%
LVG - 15/16 - 54%
Jose - 18/19 - 43%
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I can safely say there is 0 chance of us beating pool this Sunday.
I’ve never been less confident in a derby.
Bye bye Jose, thanks for screwing the team up and leaving us with a bunch of over-hyped over-paid tossers we will never get shut of.
10 years at least before we ever get back to a permanent top 4 place and challenge for the big trophies.
Anyone going to the games is chucking money down the drain and would be better off buying mogadon.
It's more thrilling watching paint dry than watching United play.
Give me a nod when the team attacks, looks like they care and put in a shift for their silly wages.
10 years at least before we ever get back to a permanent top 4 place and challenge for the big trophies.
Anyone going to the games is chucking money down the drain and would be better off buying mogadon.
It's more thrilling watching paint dry than watching United play.
Give me a nod when the team attacks, looks like they care and put in a shift for their silly wages.
It's not making any financial sense, according to Mr. Woodward. Even if he sacks Mourinho, the replacement is going to find it difficult to challenge for the Top 4 anyway.
If we won tonight we could have avoided multiple top class sides that will destroy us in the next round. Have you seen the 15th best team in La Liga this season, who were resting players? They are maybe the only team as disappointing as we are and still we made them look like Brighton.
The fact tonights match was somewhat meaningless (as we assumed Juventus would win) makes it worse for how shite we were. No freedom on show - no entertainment factor - no youth.
It's fine, it's only preseason.
Eddie Howe? Let's give him a go at if he is any good it really is getting sad now
Is that supposed to be a clever attempt at completely disregarding context in order to justify Jose's current tenure at United (and more to the point, the result)? You do realize that going top of the group would have been potentially very meaningful, correct? Make quips about Juventus' result and the posters in this thread all you want, but we should have capitalized on their mistake. Unlike United, they've reached two Champions League finals in the past four years and they're currently top of the table in Serie A. You're acting as if this performance was but a mere blip in Jose's magical pursuit of
Can't a good Samaritan just frame him for murder of something? He is killing my spirit.
Maybe it isn't but you will struggle to convince me it's better any of the top 4 on paper, even ignoring tactics.
Even if we do not get the manager we want now, it will create a positive vibe and get rid of all this toxic and the biggest virus of Mourinhio and low morale at the club.
Jeez!
Do you remember all those United fans who chanted "Jose Mourinho!" pining for him whilst LVG was still manager?
Hard to feel sympathy for our club when sections of our club were fawning over the prospect of him being our manager, which I'm incredibly embarrassed about.
Always knew he would be a disaster for us.
Hard to feel sympathy for our club when sections of our club were fawning over the prospect of him being our manager, which I'm incredibly embarrassed about.
Always knew he would be a disaster for us.
Liverpool are dominating teams like Napoli and City with the likes of Milner and Henderson in their midfield. It's all down to the coaching methods. And tactics. We can't get a tune out of Pogba, Fred ,Herrera, Sanchez and more. Herrera is only now in the team but will get dropped as soon as we have the first bad result .
Do you want a medal?
Win Rates Past 8 Seasons:
Again this includes all competitive games from the start of the season to last European Group Stage Game.
Jose - 17/18 - 75%
Sir Alex - 12/13 - 74%
Sir Alex - 9/10 - 72%
Sir Alex - 11/12 - 63%
Sir Alex - 10/11 - 60%
LVG - 15/16 - 54%
Jose - 16/17 - 54%
Moyes - 13/14 - 54%
LVG - 14/15 - 50%
Jose - 18/19 - 43%
Again this includes all competitive games from the start of the season to last European Group Stage Game.
Jose - 17/18 - 75%
Sir Alex - 12/13 - 74%
Sir Alex - 9/10 - 72%
Sir Alex - 11/12 - 63%
Sir Alex - 10/11 - 60%
LVG - 15/16 - 54%
Jose - 16/17 - 54%
Moyes - 13/14 - 54%
LVG - 14/15 - 50%
Jose - 18/19 - 43%
look at the difference between this season and last season!!
So many things wrong with tonight but the negativity of Jose is amazing. Not just the tactics week in, week out (unless we're 2-0 down) but to play a second string because we're through and have Liverpool coming up.
So what? Play the team who beat Fulham, injury risk is small, let them get another 90 minutes together to keep match fitness and give some continuity.
Negative team selection, negative tactics, Fellaini holding even though 2-0 down/Juve losing and just sat there.
Be more positive for Christ's sake.
So what? Play the team who beat Fulham, injury risk is small, let them get another 90 minutes together to keep match fitness and give some continuity.
Negative team selection, negative tactics, Fellaini holding even though 2-0 down/Juve losing and just sat there.
Be more positive for Christ's sake.
Oh shut up
feck right off.
It's incredible that this thread is still a thing
Imagine spending £400 million in the transfer market only to accumulate a 43% win rate.
Criminal that he remains in the job.
Almost spot on from Mckola (don't rate Lukaku that highly even when he plays for Belgium, he plays and scores mainly against awful opposition.. still far better than right now I guess!). It's actually incredible that Mourinho is still here and there seems to be so little pressure coming from within the club. Nobody in any line of work can be as big of a disaster as he's been this calendar year and still be safe in a job.
A lot of fans didnt want him here and made it known that he stood for everything that wasnt Utd.. He is absolutely shot and it is for everyone to see that the players have had enough. He warned us in the summer when he threw a hizzy fit when he didnt get a defender. Threw the youth under the bus and has had an agenda since.
Fans need to make this felt.. He wont step down and sadly many players wont sign if he isnt moved .. The fact that we only sold Blind while keeping Rojo and Jones shows how clueless this club is . And dont get me started on his signings. .
This club needs a new direction with a bold young manager, that understands this clubs DNA. Mourinho was never that man..
#joseout
The defence for me can be explained by constant injuries and rotation, De Gea not performing heroics, too much Lindelof and Valencia and Young declining.
On Henderson, he does a job in a high energy system, none of our midfielders would do much better in that specific role.
On your 2nd point, i think we've got a top 4 squad but at 5th/6th best first XI, the problem is the others know their best XI and get it on the pitch most of the time. We have constant injuries in defence and constant rotation everywhere else.
I'm not going to defend Mourinho, but every team can't improve points wise from one season to the next especially when you invest as little as we did in the summer in comparison to others. We are just the 'Burnley' (over performing last season) of the top 6 in my opinion.
This. Anyone trying to belittle those asking for his removal by portraying them as some form of 'fickle fan' is dead wrong.
Can I have some of that kool-aid please.
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