The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked

Is Mourinho’s time as United manager up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2,296 77.1%
  • No

    Votes: 293 9.8%
  • Not yet - needs more time to see if he can turn it around

    Votes: 388 13.0%

  • Total voters
    2,977
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He's a definition of a coward. In a lost game won't even give Greenwood his chance.

This is the main thing that makes me prefer LvG in hindsight to the fraud,he'd have given the likes of Chong, Gomes and Greenwood playing time during a lost match like this to add some needed excitement/intrigue
 
Think he was onside actually. We’d still have lost, mind you. They were much much better than us. And they’re not very good. Which is the real killer.
My bad.

I'm so disillusioned with Mourinho I was more interested in goings-on at Westminster. This from a person who generally doesn't even miss youth matches.
 
FFS just leave us alone, every time I see your fecked up face Mourinho I want to break the TV, you are the worst thing ever happened to this great club.
 
Manchester United would be the best business in the world to work at. Now matter what you do chances are you won't get fired.
 
So what, you said no coach had ever criticised him before and that's demonstrably not true.

Funny thing is I don't even like Mourinho I just don't think people shouldn't invent reasons to criticise him when there's plenty of perfectly valid ones already.

There's a difference between punishing a brain fart done because of youth immaturity (ex drinking at parties in case of Giggs or coming to training late in case of a 19 year old Pogba) and actually criticising a player. Pogba went to a club whose very very picky with youths, at a time were their midfield was filled with stars and was able to win a place in record time. Very few players were able to do that and the list of elite failures in such circumstances is long. Just ask Thierry Henry.

If Pogba was the only person under performing then I would be all over him but its not the case. Most of the team is under performing under this manager which means its not Pogba the problem but the manager. As both Ron and Quinton Fortune said on MUTV. The issue seems to be far bigger then Pogba.
 
This is the main thing that makes me prefer LvG in hindsight to the fraud,he'd have given the likes of Chong, Gomes and Greenwood playing time during a lost match like this to add some needed excitement/intrigue
the flipside is its not a good environment to throw them into. Bad results and Jose will do what Jose does
 
Explanations needed now for anyone who still votes in. Are our players objectively only the 6th best team in the Premier League? Why should a team 15th in La Liga have destroyed us tonight? How many players does Jose need to make us good again? Would you take Henderson, Gigi and Milner in our midfield or Lovern in our defence? Why was the same squad 2nd last year ahead of Spurs and Arsenal when they have made no real investments? Anyone who believes Jose is in should be able to answer these questions.
He should go but it's not going to happen until 4th is gone so we are wasting our time moaning. So to answer some of your questions:
Are our players objectively only the 6th best team in the Premier League? Our first XI is 5th at best (ahead of Arsenal) it's not even a debate in my opinion. The defence is garbage.
Would you take Henderson, Gigi and Milner in our midfield or Lovern in our defence? What have any of our CMs done to be considered better? Is Herrera better than Milner? No, Fred - Wijnaldum? No. Lovren is as good is if not better than any of our CBs bar Smalling, and he's just their back up.
Why was the same squad 2nd last year ahead of Spurs and Arsenal when they have made no real investments? Why were Burnley 7th? how did Leicester win a league? Statistics were showing that we were over achieving last year, helped massively by De Gea heroics, unfortunately it's caught up with us. Would you honestly take our back 4 over Spurs? Any of our 4 attackers over Kane, Alli, Son, Eriksen?
 
the flipside is its not a good environment to throw them into. Bad results and Jose will do what Jose does

Mourinho has done it with McTominay though. Thrown him into the deep end many times without much care for him.
 
:lol: you aren't a United fan. How can you still come in here and make excuses for Mourinho?
Ah so to be a United fan you need to hate on Mourinho at every opportunity?
I've already explained my views about Mourinho and if things don't improve significantly by the end of the season I agree that he should be gone.
Not in december when we lose a meaningless game to Valencia.

Also, a decent 2-2 with missed chances is understandable. We were dreadful tonight though. I’d argue that the context and actual in game events is one of the main issues for the “anti Mourinho crowd”. The tactics are awful, and the players don’t want to play for him.
54% possession.
4 shots on target for both sides.
Away from home.
Hardly a terrible result.
 
Again, would anyone rather have Milner and Henderson in our midfield over Pogba and Herrera?
 
Again, would anyone rather have Milner and Henderson in our midfield over Pogba and Herrera?

I still think Jordan Henderson as Liverpool's captain is hilarious. He's really average.

Klopp still has managed to make a team that Henderson leads and plays the way they do.
 
A lame duck stumbling on from week to disappointing week but never leaving despite seeming miserable a lot of the time. Has Mourinho ever considered a career in British politics?
 
What a sad indictment that I want Van Gaal back. This is literally Moyes 2.0 with extra cuntishness on top.
 
Those 5 teams are fecking streets ahead of us. We already knew that. How do we look against our actual peers, in mid-table?!?

City - 80%
Chelsea - 74%
Arsenal - 70%
Liverpool - 70%
Tottenham - 67%
Bournemouth - 53%
Leicester - 47%
United - 43%
West Ham - 42%
Everton - 39%
Wolves - 39%
Watford - 39%
Brighton - 35%

Everyone else is terrible.
 
He should go but it's not going to happen until 4th is gone so we are wasting our time moaning. So to answer some of your questions:
Are our players objectively only the 6th best team in the Premier League? Our first XI is 5th at best (ahead of Arsenal) it's not even a debate in my opinion. The defence is garbage.
Would you take Henderson, Gigi and Milner in our midfield or Lovern in our defence? What have any of our CMs done to be considered better? Is Herrera better than Milner? No, Fred - Wijnaldum? No. Lovren is as good is if not better than any of our CBs bar Smalling, and he's just their back up.
Why was the same squad 2nd last year ahead of Spurs and Arsenal when they have made no real investments? Why were Burnley 7th, how did Leicester win a league. Statistics were showing that we were over achieving last year, helped massively by De Gea heroics, unfortunately it's caught up with us. Would you honestly take our back 4 over Spurs? Any of our 4 attackers over Kane, Alli, Son, Eriksen?
Serious underrating of our squad. Most of our players look crap due to non existent tactics, even Messi would be useless in our team. Our first XI is not as bad as you think, every team has positions which can be improved.
 
How is he continuing to play Lukaku?

Sticking and being loyal with the same style and players that do not work is what you would expect from Moyes, not a serial winner like Mourhino.
He might not be what he once was but its just tragic how lacking of ideas he is.
 
We lost a meaningless game on the same night Juventus lost away to Young Boys.

MOURINHO OUT!!!!!

With Juventus losing again YB, a win against Valencia would have put us in the first place, potentially getting us a weaker opponent in the elimination round.
 
City - 80%
Chelsea - 74%
Arsenal - 70%
Liverpool - 70%
Tottenham - 67%
Bournemouth - 53%
Leicester - 47%
United - 43%
West Ham - 42%
Everton - 39%
Wolves - 39%
Watford - 39%

Some genuine pre-season relegation candidates in there. :lol:
 
We ain’t far off January, 43% win rate? That’s unacceptable, off you go.
 
Hahahahahahaha. You must be joking. He's sitting on millions. No way he's walking.

If every United fan paid Woodward £1, we'd have ~£650m. More than enough to buy out the cnut, send his minions packing, buy out the contracts of our woefully overpaid players and lower ticket prices whilst we're there. #vivalarevolucion
 
Ah so to be a United fan you need to hate on Mourinho at every opportunity?
I've already explained my views about Mourinho and if things don't improve significantly by the end of the season I agree that he should be gone.
Not in december when we lose a meaningless game to Valencia.
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That's not the point though. It's the latest in a long line of terrible ,disjointed performances in Jose reign. The team has no ideas. There's no semblance of an attacking or defensive plan. Valencia are 15th in LA Liga but you could see in that first half they were a well coached team that knows what they were doing. The quality of chances they were making contrast with us it's a fecking joke and they're a poor team. We make the likes of West Ham and Brighton look good so why am I suprised anyway?
 
It would be best to sack him before the Liverpool game.

We'd still more than likely lose but a cloud would be lifted. We'd have a better chance than we do now with this miserable bollocks sitting there.
 
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