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The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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This is just as bad if not worse (I've maintained this since Mourinho's first season). Unless you're suggesting this doesn't count as watching United (which is fair enough as most of the game involves the opposition team in a training exercise against us).
Honestly, Jose walked into one of the best jobs in football. 7th in the league with minus 1 goal difference and he isn't even near being fired. Type of Job security a manager can only dream of that.
Also, he randomly got the backing of people like Neville who rant helped him keep his job.
Also, he randomly got the backing of people like Neville who rant helped him keep his job.
It's good to remember you're not just a joker
100% how I feel tooI strongly disagree. The LvG way of passing it back and forth along our back and midfield lines literally made me fall asleep. Even in the final minutes of a match where we needed a result, we would show no urgency.
Obviously you’re free to disagree.
What I want is that before taking the next step, the club should decide which direction we want to move in. Identify which manager can get us playing that way - and then get that manager - not just the best manager out of a job at the moment. I'm willing to stick out with Jose or an interim till the end of the season if that is the case, this season is a write off anyway.
We could win the league and CL (and I will appreciate the trophies), but Jose will never be a United manager in my eyes. He has been Woodward's biggest mistake in a long list of mistakes.
He could leave tomorrow, or at the end of his contract after a few more trophies, and I'd still react the same way to him.
The shit he has dragged this club's reputation through in the last few years is far too heavy of a sacrifice for a single league title. And the worse part is we haven't even come close to winning it.
He could leave tomorrow, or at the end of his contract after a few more trophies, and I'd still react the same way to him.
The shit he has dragged this club's reputation through in the last few years is far too heavy of a sacrifice for a single league title. And the worse part is we haven't even come close to winning it.
In line with my crackpot theory that Jose is all about Jose rather than United: that bloody irritating 'three trophies' gesture at his critics after the EL Final. Jesus...
He should be out simply because if he cannot see that Matic playing is not working and has not worked out for a very long time. He cannot see that Lukaku up front is not working. If you do the same thing over and over again and failing and still expecting different results is insanity. So under the term of insanity he should be sacked.
I like Lukaku but our play clearly improved with Sanchez upfront. Now Lukaku is back and still doesn't look fit, but Sanchez is back benched again.
I just don't understand what he see's or is doing. I feel he is rewarding players who are loyal to him rather than who's performing well. He's looking after himself and his friends rather than the team.
I completely agree with that. We have wasted a ton of money. The common denominator is the manager and changing him instead of a continual turnover of talented players that don’t make it here is more logical.
My first post on here so hello all ! Im scratching my head reading some of the comments on this thread. It is without question that Mourinho needs to go, the team he has built plays like Stoke under Pulis. We have some incredible players in the squad, but if you are an attacking player under Jose then he blunts you, end of. Defensive minded players he will generally improve as this is his mentality.
As for saying SAF would struggle to get the best out of Martial, or indeed this squad is mind bending. I know the last the 5 years or so have been poor for us, but have we forgotten SAF won the league with Buttner, Anderson, Nani, Cleverley, Kagawa, Evans and Giggs and Scholes when they were both 83 years old.
As for saying SAF would struggle to get the best out of Martial, or indeed this squad is mind bending. I know the last the 5 years or so have been poor for us, but have we forgotten SAF won the league with Buttner, Anderson, Nani, Cleverley, Kagawa, Evans and Giggs and Scholes when they were both 83 years old.
Fantastic post. I can't understand how any fan can say how we play as long as we win, doesn't matter. You don't get the romanticism of this club. Yes we didn't always play well but the majority of time, we looked to play with imagination, we dared to take the game to the opponent.
Old Trafford is called the Theatre of Dreams ffs! Our football is soul destroying. A part of me would still want him gone, if we were winning titles playing this way.
We sold our soul the day this man walked through the door.
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Personally I remember being completely mad about the extension but didn't post about it as everyone seemed so merry. Never like Mourinho since Day 1
Same as you two. Didn't want to be a killjoyJust seeing that I didn't post in the renewal thread. I wasn't pleased but knew if I said it, I would get hounded out.
we were right, though.
Fully agree with every single word.
Same as you two. Didn't want to be a killjoy
we were right, though.
I actually have some sympathy with the club for extending it. At the time, it seemed like a sensible option to avoid speculation. It's going to cost the club £15m quid though.Same as you two. Didn't want to be a killjoy
we were right, though.
I was unhappy because by then, I was already sick of the football.
I actually wanted him out before both his extension and the sevilla game. So, yeah, I was a bit gutted.
Searching back on the topic, I did reply to @MDFC Manager 's "meh" post in the topic with :
We knew.
The king is dead. Long live the king. It's time he was sacked.
70% of United fans on here are not wrong. Yesterday the football was no different to the shit Moyes put out that got him sacked.
Tough to say who the right man for the United job is now but it's not Jose. He's proven hes not up to this task and has looked clueless this season especially. The Sanchez purchase will be remembered as what killed him off in my opinion.
Eddie Howes Bournemouth have shown better development and recruitment than Jose and Utd over the same period. Pitiful for a club our size.
Bring in a coach like Howe/Pochettino/Simeone/Emery/Silva who are actually going to improve players or at the very least bring out the best in them currently. Jose is doing neither as he gave up awhile ago.
70% of United fans on here are not wrong. Yesterday the football was no different to the shit Moyes put out that got him sacked.
Tough to say who the right man for the United job is now but it's not Jose. He's proven hes not up to this task and has looked clueless this season especially. The Sanchez purchase will be remembered as what killed him off in my opinion.
Eddie Howes Bournemouth have shown better development and recruitment than Jose and Utd over the same period. Pitiful for a club our size.
Bring in a coach like Howe/Pochettino/Simeone/Emery/Silva who are actually going to improve players or at the very least bring out the best in them currently. Jose is doing neither as he gave up awhile ago.
Stuff like that happens at matches and around the ground all the time.
I've seen United fans fighting with other United fans over someone calling Carrick fecking useless.
Jose out, Casey Stoney in.
Hes done, we are at the point where any other club would pull the trigger.
Theres no point in giving him any more money, his team selctions, tactics and on pitch decisions are nonsense.
Bye Jose, good luck with your future endeavors.
Theres no point in giving him any more money, his team selctions, tactics and on pitch decisions are nonsense.
Bye Jose, good luck with your future endeavors.
I want the people who voted No or Not yet, to state how bad things need to get before they would change their opinion. Or do we need a fresh poll @mods
Fully agreed Steve. I'm ashamed to say I was one of those who wanted him in, but something has felt massively off his entire tenure.
The one thing the last few years has made me realise is, I really miss being excited about watching us play.
SAF used to know how to get the best out of his players.
Mourinho knows how to get the worst out of his players.
When's Mourinho leaving again?
Mourinho knows how to get the worst out of his players.
When's Mourinho leaving again?
I'm just old school. I accept he probably needs to go, but I'm going to hope for a miracle right up until the last moment.
I'm not changing my vote on a silly internet poll just to appease a bunch of kids who think being 'right' on the internet is more important than anything else.
Isn't crackpot at all. It's always been that way with him. He'll sell his mother in the bazaar if it helps him.
And that gesture is just one of several red flags.
Yup, never felt right at any point with him, did it.
You shouldn't be ashamed tbh. Opinions can change with time but it doesn't mean, in a different context, you were completely wrong.
So you’d rather be stubborn even when you feel it’s wrong? That’s silly.
That wasn't what I asked. I just asked for reasons what would make you change your mind. In other words how bad do things have to get?
Doing worse than Moyes now. We still got a chance of top 4 but if that means, he is staying then i hope we dont get top 4.
Don’t ever want to see United as boring as we were under LVG. But it does seem like 1 forward 2 backward under Mourinho in terms of overall development and I feel like we’re further away now than we were when he arrived.
It's so sad, this is not football as we United fans have known.
Sadly not. I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt in the beginning, but he just couldn't help himself.
I just can't understand why he's persisting with Matic. I'm a fan of Matic, I've liked him since his first spell at Chelsea but he's been awful this season and is struggling badly we would be doing him a massive favour by taking him out of the team for a few games and then easing him back in if needed. Matic played nearly every game for us last season then he played in the WC in the summer and straight after that he went off to the US for surgery then rushed back for the start of the season. There's no way he's fit enough to be playing week in and week out. Seems like he's on the serious decline and it's not like we're exactly hurting for options either, Fred was bought for £50M and needs to be given a chance. Herrera has proven himself and there's Fellaini, Pereira or even McTominay who I know many don't rate but he filled in for us in some big games last season and done decent.
At the end of the day, it’s his choice. I’m with you guys that want Jose out, I can’t wait to see the back of him.
But let’s stop annoying others by telling them they should change their vote etc. At the end of the day, the outcome of a poll on an internet forum makes no difference to the situation.
I hate this “who is right, who is wrong” BS. Let’s not fight. We all care about Utd. There is no simple solution - Jose is only part of the problem. Hiring Pochettino tomorrow won’t resolve all of our issues.
Well that’s a bit like when your partner doesn’t love you anymore and things are not working at all and there you are hoping for some miracle to happen and make everything right like it used to be, yeah that’s not how life works, this is not a hollywood movie.
I’m really intrigued to know what kind of miracle are you referring to, it’s his third season here, not his third month, man.
Also, there’s no need to be condescending towards “kids”, nothing wrong with being young, if anything it’s the other way around.
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