It's not Jose's fault Palace couldn't score a goal, so we could show character and good game management to come back from behind and win it in the dying seconds...
The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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Haven't bothered reading anything in this thread since the game. Let me guess, the usual suspects are still far up his arse?
What on Earth is a JCL snowflake?
JM Rectumville is still populated, correct.
This is what many tried telling Mourinho fans that 2nd place was fool's gold and not an accurate representation of the quality of side we were. Maybe it's because I'm into baseball so I'm used to stats pointing out results are about to come crashing back down to earth or rather, normalize. But the stats clearly pointed to 2nd place not being sustainable. We conceded the most chances on goal amongst the top 6 last season and we created the least amount of chances of the top 6 last season. Those two stats screamed unsustainability. Nobody can blame our summer for what was to come because those stats state that if all of us had the same exact side as when the season finished, United would fall below Liverpool, Spurs, etc...
Jose literally shouldn't last the weekend but having an equally incompetent Woodward above him means he'll be around for a while yet!
What are the board seeing that makes them Think it will change? As it has been said so many times before in this thread, every other club with any aspirations at all would have sacked him off already. Its ridiculous.
What are the board seeing that makes them Think it will change? As it has been said so many times before in this thread, every other club with any aspirations at all would have sacked him off already. Its ridiculous.
I think it's some kind of mechanical digger.
I don't think the boad think he can turn it around. I simply think they are shit scared of pulling the trigger because hey don't know what to do after. Furthermore, sacking him now is said to cost £25m+.
That's extreme.
Yup, and the cnuts on here who abused Sir Bobby for it, need to hang their fecking heads in shame.
Probably because they are looking through the lens of an Excel Spreadsheet that only shows columns until the end of May.
Mathematical probability of still reaching Champs League qualification - tick
Penalty clause for dismissing Jose early - tick
Still signing deals with obscure combined harvester companies - tick
Real business intelligence would tell them we are destroying assets (player morale) shrinking our market (fans turning off from dire football), destroying our brand (those Chinese noodle companies won't pay top dollar if we keep losing), plus instilling a toxic culture throughout the club that will help keep us down
This is where the board are starting to get on my( . Y . )
We're the richest club in England and one of the richest in world. What is £25mil to Utd? Honestly it's a drop in the ocean, a dime a dozen. I can't understand why we're messing about over £25mil.
Respect to those not letting their ego rule their judgement.
Fair points
That contract extended thread needs to be dug up, will be a fun read no doubt.There were some on here complaining that his extension wasn't long enough, when he signed it
Yeah but excuses....
Get rid and start planning for next season. Trying to sign a new manager, a DoF and sell and buy half a squad in a summer window is madness.
But given the boards' inability to plan beyond our next tampon sponsor I have zero faith in the club doing the right thing.
We should have a new manager and DoF under pre-contract already. Anything less is negligence.
But given the boards' inability to plan beyond our next tampon sponsor I have zero faith in the club doing the right thing.
We should have a new manager and DoF under pre-contract already. Anything less is negligence.
If Pochettino was available now and willing to come now, I would think they would pay it.
I too am frustrated he's still here. I think the biggest reason they haven't sacked him is because they don't have an alternative. Not because of how much it would cost to get rid.
That's what I would like to think. It would be an indictment of the club if the only reason he's still here is £25m.
It doesn't soothe a lack of trophies. But it makes the experience a whole lot more entertaining/interesting. If you had prior knowledge of us not winning the league for the next ten years would you stop watching? Personally, for me the quality and entertainment of the football absolutely matters. I watch football, after all, due to my emotional investment and the entertainment factor as well. Otherwise I'd just watch the live score update and be done with it.
Profit before tax last year was £26m. It could basically write off making a profit this year.
Here ya go chicken https://www.redcafe.net/threads/mourinho-set-to-sign-contract-extension-done.435661/.
I have one post in there and I said “fantastic”. I feel sick
At least I’m not one of the many in here that just want to be right on the internet and I could adjust my opinion based on current circumstances rather than blind arrogance.
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£25m is not a dime on the ocean tbf. £25m would be a dime in the ocean for the likes of Apple who have nearly £300 Billion revenue each year. In our case £25m is about 5% of the revenue which is quite a lot.
Could we not make that money back through sponsorship or player sales?
Profit before tax is still profit after costs. Take a look at how much the Glazers take out of their business each year before coming to the opinion that they can't afford to buy any player they want for their team if they'd only be minded to do so.
Thanks. And this thread too https://www.redcafe.net/threads/mou...-for-a-further-year-as-standard.435979/page-2Here ya go chicken https://www.redcafe.net/threads/mourinho-set-to-sign-contract-extension-done.435661/.
I have one post in there and I said “fantastic”. I feel sick
At least I’m not one of the many in here that just want to be right on the internet and I could adjust my opinion based on current circumstances rather that blind arrogance.
Think about 95% of the sentiment at that time was positive to extremely positive. Which just goes to show how badly he conned everyone at that time. When in actuality, that contract extension was one of the worst decisions to be taken post Fergie.
They won't do. The people who have literally been begging for Mourinho for years have got a lot to answer for. This club is supposed to mean something and in a quest to get success people were willing to throw this away.
Shame on them.
£26m profit doesn't seem a lot for 'the biggest club in the cosmos' or whatever we're calling ourselves this week.
*posts Is Ed Overrated/Underrated/Underpants? thread*
*posts Is Ed Overrated/Underrated/Underpants? thread*
feck me, people were tagging me in that thread to 'laugh' at me.
Yup. I mean look, up until this season I fully supported him. I could see the blatant cracks that were starting to appear and the Seville debacle was thoroughly disgusting, all of it. But still, I blindly thought he would have us playing better stuff this season and properly challenging.
I was totally and utterly wrong. I was wrong to have blind faith in him getting us back to the top table and I was wrong to believe that after all the shite last season, he would improve our football. Anyone that still supports him and can be happy with what they are watching week-in-week-out is either deluded or so arrogant that they won’t let reality get in the way of their pro-Mourinho narrative. My bet is most are in the latter camp.
Surely you realize that you don't find 25m worth of sponsorship that easily and while we can sale players we will have to bring others to replace them, on top of hiring a manager to replace him. Sacking him is simply a loss, there is no way around it, you can make an argument that it's worth it and that in a way it's an investment but that's a stretch.
Don’t mind them Twiggy, they’re just big bullies.
Guardiola was given his contract extension at the end of last season, when he's definitely the most sought after manager in the world. The mind boggles as to why we were in such a hurry to extend the contract of our clown. His heart was never in this job, otherwise he wouldn't have been openly flirting with PSG. That was a huge red flag.
He didn't actually con anyone then. He simply regressed.
In the first half of his 1st season, despite the draws, we actually played some good football, creating a lot of chances. Second half was crap, but could be attributed to fixture congestion due to the EL. Then in the first half of his second season, we were clinical, but our style of play wasn't as good -- there was a clear regression from the eye-catching style of last season. But he was using Martial and Rashford very well, rotating them and helping their game. So we felt it was a matter of time before he achieved the combination of 1st season's style + 2nd season's clinical finishing.
He got the contract, then Sanchez happened, Martial was dropped, injuries hit our squad,our goals dried up in the 2nd half of his second season, though we came 2nd. And now, here we are in his 3rd season, devoid of both style and goal scoring ability. And our defense has regressed.
For all those who claim there was some progress just because we finished 2nd, a closer look at his career graph with us tells us otherwise.
Why can't he get the team up for games in the same way klopp or Guardiola does with their teams? I just don't understand how we are constantly being told, by the press, ex players and even Jose himself, that he is a winner and the best.
Where is this manager?
Personally I think his star burnt out years ago.
Where is this manager?
Personally I think his star burnt out years ago.
Maybe as one off but then players need replacing. I'm not sure our financial picture suggests we can write off £25m+ and the Glazers won't be bothered about it.
Just flicking through and this made me
I'm awaiting someone to complain saying this only means he'll get a big pay off when he has his traditional meltdown and gets sacked
Your turn now
Fair fecks to you for owning up and also seeing the light, but like you said some won't do the same. This 'illustrious' list includes the likes of Neville to the average internet punter on here.
Here ya go chicken https://www.redcafe.net/threads/mourinho-set-to-sign-contract-extension-done.435661/.
I have one post in there and I said “fantastic”. I feel sick
At least I’m not one of the many in here that just want to be right on the internet and I could adjust my opinion based on current circumstances rather than blind arrogance.
I wasnt as optimistic, i warned that the sacking would be expensive. To be fair, i think a lot of people got conned by the Sanchez signing, it lifted the mood, myself included. And we were doing well at that time, and then came Sevilla
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