The interview took place a month ago but it was released today? That's how I understand it. So chances are the players haven't seen it.
The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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The interview took place a month ago but it was released today? That's how I understand it. So chances are the players haven't seen it.
This is by far his greatest weakness and the main reason he ends up falling out with players every time.
You should never criticize players publicly like that, you can tear them a new one in private, but in public it never works, it's just humiliating.
The crazy thing is, those players have been doing good recently, so what's the point here?
You should never criticize players publicly like that, you can tear them a new one in private, but in public it never works, it's just humiliating.
The crazy thing is, those players have been doing good recently, so what's the point here?
I agree with all of this too.
And this.
The thread where posters said they preferred a sweaty 2-1 win to a 6-0 win was mindboggling.
Well, if that’s true it could very well be the case.
He didn’t say anything terrible but I don’t think what he said actually achieves anything. Too often he says and does things for himself that don’t have any benefit to the players or the team and consequently his own performance as manager.
If he kept his mouth shut and got on with the job in the first place we wouldn’t be in the position we are in.
If he kept his mouth shut and got on with the job in the first place we wouldn’t be in the position we are in.
Probably as we never experience the latter
No 5 goals under Mourinho I believe, 2 since Fergi left Midgetland & Leverkusen.
City have scored over 5 23 times since Midgetland.
As per the article above he was asked a direct question about 'diamonds' in the squad and how they can improve, i'm not sure why he'd bring up the performances of Lukaku (he's already commented on him previously when asked questions), Young (barely worse than Shaw has been) or Matic.
If it was Poch, Howe or (insert other flavour of the month manager) making these comments in their first week in charge of us they would be viewed completely differently on here.
They wouldn't though would they, Fergi probably put down his players publicly less in his entire career than Mourinho has in his tenure here and Fergi had plenty of stinkers.
Eddie Howe & Poch haven't to the best of my knowledge. Unlike Mourinho where he feeds off drama and it's probably one of the main reasons he's never lasted more than 3 seasons,1 month at any club.
Even the real quotes are complete garbage from a manager who has seen the experienced player play like trash while the young players step up
If you threw most of the city team in that 99 team they would also get eatten alive. So what's your point?
It just boggles the mind that anyone thought it was a good idea to hire him
Rashford and Lingard certainly haven’t been improving (nor has Shaw tbh).
Although they’ve been looking like different players for England. Funny what playing for a manager who builds (as opposed to destroys) confidence can do.
It’s a shame all these careless young players can’t be more like you. A perfect human being by age 23 with no other focus than there job, oblivious from distraction. If only we would hire some kind of mentor figure that can influence our young players and focus there minds on football. Kind of like a manager type figure.
I don’t think so. Who would you have had after Van Gaal? Or would you have stuck with LvG?
If you get an answer tell me. Personally I didn't care about the second part, it's the first part that bothers me because it's just wrong and like others have said it gives you the impression that he is in fact a has been.
Poor Mourinho. He's had to suffer too much at United. Let's put him out of his misery.
Ah yeah the good old days when players downed pints the day before games and lit up cigs at half time. But who cares about actual professionalism when you come across tough.
The funny thing about this nonsense yet again is that this supposed lack of toughness doesn't seem to be affecting everyone else. Teams are still somehow managing to do well but that's probably because they put more emphasis on the actual football as opposed to vague abstract notions like character and passion.
The funny thing about this nonsense yet again is that this supposed lack of toughness doesn't seem to be affecting everyone else. Teams are still somehow managing to do well but that's probably because they put more emphasis on the actual football as opposed to vague abstract notions like character and passion.
Well done, dude. You missed the point altogether. That’s pretty impressive.
If you think England is a better team now, sure.
Not a fan of him making any 'easy' 'bad' comments about his players (the team he's currently managing) to the public in any interviews. Geez, he can be too honest at times. Context is important of course and eventhough he have a good point there, just can't see why he need to say it out loud. How about just keeping it personal between him and the players. Sounds like he's having problems adjusting his managing style and approach with the newer generation millennial type of players, and the social media effects of today.
Why he singled out just 4 specific players?
Those 4 are the potential future face of United, and the ones that are given the most defensive excuses by football fans.
Pogba's not in it because of the harsh criticism of Pogba given by pundits and media, and Paul soldiered on.
Not sure why Lingard is in it tbh, but come on let's admit it -- Rashford, Martial and Shaw have been given so many excuses as if football fans want them to be given on a silver platter -- no need to fight for a place in the starting 11, you can simply go straightaway into the starting 11 every week play from the start, nothing wrong with your game, and if you play terrible, it's all Mourinho's fault absolutely.
How about let the players fight for a place, and be given right criticism not just by the manager but also by the pundits and media, and screw it even better by the ones closest to them whether it's their family, close friends, girlfriends, agents, team mates, etc so they'll take responsibilities and be better improving their game. Atm, seriously the praises they were given is too much to be honest.
*I remember Mkhi, the same thing happened, too much defensive excuses given about him by his agent and family. The result -- he still believe in his own hype. Did he ever admit to play terribly? No and he always blamed on something else isn't it.
*Zlatan recently gave an interview saying Viera at Juve demanded more from him, Viera always say Zlatan playing terrible football, bad performances, demanding more and more better improved performances, which wowed Zlatan and he responded well improving his game. Interesting enough, he adopted similar approach in being honest with his team mates. Verratti also thanked Zlatan at PSG isn't it, probably the last time I saw any clear signs of improvements in Verratti's game when he's there.
Old school style I guess -- criticise me, the harsher the better, a challenge so I'll up my game and prove you're wrong.
That said, still, Mourinho need to start adapting his managerial approach.
His style suits certain players with certain characters whom atm he's not having at the current squad he's managing -- Manchester United 2018/19.
Why he singled out just 4 specific players?
Those 4 are the potential future face of United, and the ones that are given the most defensive excuses by football fans.
Pogba's not in it because of the harsh criticism of Pogba given by pundits and media, and Paul soldiered on.
Not sure why Lingard is in it tbh, but come on let's admit it -- Rashford, Martial and Shaw have been given so many excuses as if football fans want them to be given on a silver platter -- no need to fight for a place in the starting 11, you can simply go straightaway into the starting 11 every week play from the start, nothing wrong with your game, and if you play terrible, it's all Mourinho's fault absolutely.
- the ongoing 'Rashford should play every week or if not should seek loan out/leave the club to play week in and week out' and the usual 'Rashford is using wrongly by Mou' by pundits, commentators and fans.
- Martial 'must always play every game' by Martial FC, 'nothing wrong with his game at all'.
- Shaw is 'being ruined by Mou' and he should be given 'plenty of games always' last 2 seasons. Strangely, the games where Shaw played poor in the past is ignored and as usual the manager is being blamed for that.
How about let the players fight for a place, and be given right criticism not just by the manager but also by the pundits and media, and screw it even better by the ones closest to them whether it's their family, close friends, girlfriends, agents, team mates, etc so they'll take responsibilities and be better improving their game. Atm, seriously the praises they were given is too much to be honest.
*SAF and Welbeck is also interesting. I still remember Welbeck being given plenty of hype which likely gets into his head.
*What happened with Wilson and Januzaj again?
*What happened with SAF and Pogba also, and it's still ongoing. SAF did give him games, but Paul is just too impatient. No denying his talents, but seriously as we now see, there is still flaw to his game as a central midfielder which he's improving now but expose too much before. His agent is the ones closest to him likely to ring extreme hype to his ear and career, ignoring how Fergie love to give chances and have good record of blooding many youths into the first team, even the ones that lacks talents, time and situations applied (eg. perhaps only Rossi and Pique doesn't make it which SAF had to let go anyway for their career respectively having both Roon and Ron in front of him, and Rio-Vidic whom all four are just fitness fanatic -- almost always play every games/season.)
*I remember the case of Ronaldo with our coach Rene Meulensteen or was it Carlos Quiroz, or maybe both, honestly said direct to Ronaldo about his game being too selfish, and seriously need to change. Ronaldo listened and as we know, his game improved so much -- none of that rubbish over stepovers and more team play that works and helps to win games, also helps him win many honours including his first best player of the year. Tbf, Ronaldo was given a good mix of hype and harsh criticism by football fans.
*What happened with Wilson and Januzaj again?
*What happened with SAF and Pogba also, and it's still ongoing. SAF did give him games, but Paul is just too impatient. No denying his talents, but seriously as we now see, there is still flaw to his game as a central midfielder which he's improving now but expose too much before. His agent is the ones closest to him likely to ring extreme hype to his ear and career, ignoring how Fergie love to give chances and have good record of blooding many youths into the first team, even the ones that lacks talents, time and situations applied (eg. perhaps only Rossi and Pique doesn't make it which SAF had to let go anyway for their career respectively having both Roon and Ron in front of him, and Rio-Vidic whom all four are just fitness fanatic -- almost always play every games/season.)
*I remember the case of Ronaldo with our coach Rene Meulensteen or was it Carlos Quiroz, or maybe both, honestly said direct to Ronaldo about his game being too selfish, and seriously need to change. Ronaldo listened and as we know, his game improved so much -- none of that rubbish over stepovers and more team play that works and helps to win games, also helps him win many honours including his first best player of the year. Tbf, Ronaldo was given a good mix of hype and harsh criticism by football fans.
*I remember Mkhi, the same thing happened, too much defensive excuses given about him by his agent and family. The result -- he still believe in his own hype. Did he ever admit to play terribly? No and he always blamed on something else isn't it.
*Zlatan recently gave an interview saying Viera at Juve demanded more from him, Viera always say Zlatan playing terrible football, bad performances, demanding more and more better improved performances, which wowed Zlatan and he responded well improving his game. Interesting enough, he adopted similar approach in being honest with his team mates. Verratti also thanked Zlatan at PSG isn't it, probably the last time I saw any clear signs of improvements in Verratti's game when he's there.
Old school style I guess -- criticise me, the harsher the better, a challenge so I'll up my game and prove you're wrong.
That said, still, Mourinho need to start adapting his managerial approach.
His style suits certain players with certain characters whom atm he's not having at the current squad he's managing -- Manchester United 2018/19.
Shaw perhaps responded well to this and given-grab his chances after fixing his lifestyle and social circle which he admitted himself in past interviews. Martial's agent is also annoying and over supportive, but nevertheless Martial's performance tend have no big problems. Rashford given plenty of chances, and did he grab it and make a permanent starting place? nope, at least not yet. Still frustrating and I see Mou is giving less and less good remarks about his training performances compare to before may have something to do with that comments. Seriously, english media pundits and pundit is so ridiculous and over the top when it comes to Rashford, defending him non-stop. I just hope Rash ignore it and not believe too much in this ongoing circus big hype of him.
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Yes but you aren't looking at things from the prism of someone trying to make excuses.
Eh, is the 'Yes' vote dropping?
Still maintaining he's not the right fit anymore.
Let's see any changes after the next game.
Still maintaining he's not the right fit anymore.
Let's see any changes after the next game.
This whole season started with that 'everything is bad" press conference.
Everything Mourinho says is for one goal...to protect his reputation.
You'd think we are the only club with young players. Someone places find his post match press quotes against Brighton last season. The worst I've ever heard a manager say about a young player.
Everything Mourinho says is for one goal...to protect his reputation.
You'd think we are the only club with young players. Someone places find his post match press quotes against Brighton last season. The worst I've ever heard a manager say about a young player.
I actually think he does believe this nonsense. His version of football relied heavily on those attributes. The fact that they are indeed less common nowadays does affect his product more than most managers. The depressing part is we still went for him despite knowing all of this.
Why's he always got to say dumb shit like this? For a start it's a generalisation. You can have a middle class or upper class upbringing and still be tough and have a competitive edge.
On top of that why are you making your players sound weak? If you think thier weak; manage that trait, or sell them.
On top of that why are you making your players sound weak? If you think thier weak; manage that trait, or sell them.
It seems like a common theme with you when it comes to mourinho, Reddy! You have this through thick and thin support for him. Like a loyal stooge, you’ll defend for anything he does or says. My question to you once again, what would it take for you to change your opinion? He’s obviously touching nerve with many of us. He’s just critiqued players in a very undiplomatic way. Especially when one of those players has arguably saved his job due to his form, a player he had badly managed. Talk about unique man management skills. Yes, they are a different generation, but times change you have to adapt. Mourinho clearly shows he can’t adapt to players born after 1992. This is HUGE concern, because the players he gelled with were all born before 1990. Those players are all coming to the end of their careers.
Meh, nothing. Mourinho out. Better?
I never wanted him here but I'd have understood him being appointed after Sir Alex or Moyes.
After van Gaal, though, we should've hired a more progressive manager who also favoured a possession approach to build on what van Gaal was trying to achieve. Instead, we did a complete 180 hiring José and had to start from scratch again. It was silly from us, imo.
Don't know why he has to bring up names? I mean, even if he thinks he does have some kind of a general point, then bring it up in that sense.
Also, it is not like other managers don't have the same issues, so it is all part of man-management.
But in the end, it is also pretty meaningless. Being "soft", lacking "cajones" or any other personal traits in the grand scheme of things don't make much difference. Every footballer or sportsman love winning more than anything, now or 50 years ago. Show them how to win, breed that culture inside the team or organization and they will show you everything he is talking about.
He should know it best. Confidence and winning mentality were contagious when he started his career. Ultimately, he should maybe give it a thought that players aren't the one here who changed along the way.
Also, it is not like other managers don't have the same issues, so it is all part of man-management.
But in the end, it is also pretty meaningless. Being "soft", lacking "cajones" or any other personal traits in the grand scheme of things don't make much difference. Every footballer or sportsman love winning more than anything, now or 50 years ago. Show them how to win, breed that culture inside the team or organization and they will show you everything he is talking about.
He should know it best. Confidence and winning mentality were contagious when he started his career. Ultimately, he should maybe give it a thought that players aren't the one here who changed along the way.
Can't wait for Mourinho fanboys to claim this was all part of Mourinho "master plan" to get the best out of our young players when they have a decent game.
Quick, let's blame the spoilt kids before my reputation is ruined...
Jose, it's not the younger players fault why you're failing here. Look in the mirror for once.
What have they got to do with the fact that the team looks clueless every single week, with no identity or confidence?
All he ever seems to do is berate the young players in public.
It's tiresome at this point.
To blame Shaw & Martial is just hilarious stuff. Two of our best players this season.
What a joker.
Jose, it's not the younger players fault why you're failing here. Look in the mirror for once.
What have they got to do with the fact that the team looks clueless every single week, with no identity or confidence?
All he ever seems to do is berate the young players in public.
It's tiresome at this point.
To blame Shaw & Martial is just hilarious stuff. Two of our best players this season.
What a joker.
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Just sums him up really.
I wonder, since these quotes are supposedly a month old... Will he offer a public apology to the younger players who have been saving his skin?
I wonder, since these quotes are supposedly a month old... Will he offer a public apology to the younger players who have been saving his skin?
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so what did he say today then? just catching up here
The summary is, young'uns in general are snowflakes and our young players don't know how to compete.
I would honestly swap Mourinho for Moyes or LVG.
That tells you everything.
That tells you everything.
I detest the term "snowflake"
Especially when my generation will find ourselves cleaning up messes of the older
Especially when my generation will find ourselves cleaning up messes of the older
Wow he really slammed them snowflakes. Absolutely terrible and disastrous man management. Am I doing this right?
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