When does he improve them as a team?
The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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Cue the 'well he's not wrong posts'. And this is what really riles me up, I can sympathise with a manager whose struggling, but when they start mouthing off against everyone and everything I can't stand them anymore. Reminds me of Moyes with ' Fergie would struggle with this squad'
It didn't happen. It happened once at Aberdeen, which ironically might have been what got him the United job, but he vowed never to repeat it again.
I don't even agree that it's as important as he seemed to think, but it's one of his well known and documented principles. It's the one phenomenon where the old 'Fergie used to do it too' chestnut doesn't apply.
Attacking our young players now, naming names.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/so...ited-stars-of-lacking-character-37558585.html
https://www.independent.ie/sport/so...ited-stars-of-lacking-character-37558585.html
He’s not wrong, but he shouldn’t say it.
Edit: and this is a month old interview where his words appear to have been twisted to make it sound like he’s specifically attacking certain players.
Nothing wrong with the direct quotes imo.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/jose-mour...-really-said-players-misleading-translations/
When they're older.
I've had it with him. He can leave anytime he wants as far as I'm concerned.
I'm sure Woodward will take note and sack him for your benefit.
He is talking shite. Its up to him to manage the players.
I have a few young lads working for me and they are a lot more diligent and hard working than I ever was. Jose making excuses for not getting the best out his resources again.
Him being right or wrong is not the issue. Why bring more scrutiny on yourself and your players when you don't need it?
Football is viewed through the prism of results. Guardiola could say the same and no one would bat an eye simply because he's on top of his game and his team is on top. Knowing when to speak your mind is a huge part of management.
I remember some of his post match interviews at Chelsea. I think one of his problems is that he's too emotional.
If we have a stinker this weekend, do you not think some in the press would bring this up?
I'm not even going to talk about his own character, which some would argue has been questionable.
Football is viewed through the prism of results. Guardiola could say the same and no one would bat an eye simply because he's on top of his game and his team is on top. Knowing when to speak your mind is a huge part of management.
I remember some of his post match interviews at Chelsea. I think one of his problems is that he's too emotional.
If we have a stinker this weekend, do you not think some in the press would bring this up?
I'm not even going to talk about his own character, which some would argue has been questionable.
The man possesses frighteningly high levels of narcissism of which he seems entirely incapable of keeping hidden. Much to the detriment of all those around him.
You might be on to something here considering the transfer window opens in a months time, but I think Ed will be just as reluctant to spend this winter as he was in the summer.
Thats weird, I havent seen any of those arguments.
Basically, could he just please shut up?
This is worse. He wanted to say they don't have any "cajones" (balls). You tell the world another grown man doesn't have any balls. Ultimate disrespect.
I added a personal twist to the words purely for the purpose of effect, sure, but the premise remains intact.
What's your argument for keeping Jose at club?
Jose - “All modern day footballers are snowflakes” I can’t help but love him even if the game is a bit past him now.
So are we still angry at the misquoted part as we didn't see the SW link or are we mad at the actual quotes too?
Jose Mourinho is a disgrace.
The Portuguese, as per usual, went straight to the point.
He said: “Maturity. When I say that, I mean maturity at a personal level. We (talking to the interviewer) are more men, we are more mature, we were more prepared to face life. We were less protected. In England, they call it ‘spoilt’. Today, we’re talking about ‘spoilt kids’. Our children are more ‘spoilt’ than we were.
“I think kids these days have a different social life than us, and players have around them an ‘entourage’, and I mean a personal entourage, the people that surround them, that protect them more, give them more affection, more excuses. They reach maturity more slowly.
“For example, this kid, Luke Shaw, who is currently the national team’s left-back, when I arrived here two years ago, he didn’t know how to compete. He had great potential, yes, but he didn’t know how to compete. When we talk about Luke Shaw, Martial, Lingard, Rashford, we’re talking about kids with great potential but still lack a word I can’t say but that you like a lot… they lack a bit of that.”
I dont see the ridicule. I see yet another mirror click bait attack that has twisted this part of his interview to mean a lot more than it did. Unless Im mistaken and its taken from a different interview in which case please correct me.
Some real jokers in here.
CP is tomorrow and I'm looking forward to giving them a thrashing.
For once, I wish we could finish our chances and hammer a team into oblivion. I still hope that it'll come one day....maybe tomorrow.
I'm still behind the manager and players and believe that they can make up for the awful start to the season.
No one wants to hear about your sex life
CP is tomorrow and I'm looking forward to giving them a thrashing.
For once, I wish we could finish our chances and hammer a team into oblivion. I still hope that it'll come one day....maybe tomorrow.
I'm still behind the manager and players and believe that they can make up for the awful start to the season.
Dont have one. Other than I dont want Ed picking his replacement. What I would say Joses defence is that its not all him. Hes not blameless by any stretch, but its not all down to him either. 3 failed managers in a row. It just cant be that straight forward. And if it is, well thats just another reason that Ed shouldnt be picking the next manager. Dont you think?
Except the quotes were from a month ago and nobody cared. Then all of a sudden we have a game around the corner and this pops up everywhere, edited to make his words seem harsher and as if he was specifically attacking certain players.
Jose is not the one bringing scrutiny here, it’s a hatchet job.
People like José and zlatan have this thing of talking crap and showboating which looks really cool when they were winning but nowadays makes them both look like fools.
Jose is a master manipulator btw. Despite spending millions on failed transfers and not getting s cohesive unit he’s made this whole situation into something like he’s taking over from a team managed by moyes last 6 years and he’s just about to start them on the road to recovery.
Jose is a master manipulator btw. Despite spending millions on failed transfers and not getting s cohesive unit he’s made this whole situation into something like he’s taking over from a team managed by moyes last 6 years and he’s just about to start them on the road to recovery.
As an armchair 'Einstein', saying this stuff is whatever. Even then, it's a lazy line of argument. But as a football manager, it's idiotic. Build confidence and put your players in the best possible situation to succeed (no matter their skill ceilings). A poor teacher blames his/her students for not achieving, a great teacher makes them want to learn.
Serious irony alert, Jose is a bloody snowflake.
If you’re gonna talk crap don’t cry about it whenever people bring it up. And then our fans and the manager have the nerve to question and accuse the media. Are they really to blame? Look at our manager
Ignoring the fact that he also selected most of his students here.
People purposefully ignoring the real quotes, which are standard stuff, to get enraged and go on a stroppy rant about twisted quotes. Classic caf.
Some real jokers in here.
CP is tomorrow and I'm looking forward to giving them a thrashing.
For once, I wish we could finish our chances and hammer a team into oblivion. I still hope that it'll come one day....maybe tomorrow.
I'm still behind the manager and players and believe that they can make up for the awful start to the season.
Much obliged
The interview just aired in Spain. Nobody was hiding them.
"Repeat the lie enough times and it becomes the truth" - Paul Pogba
They aren't Gary, so you might owe him an apology. Bet that won't be forthcoming. I have criticised him time and time again, but people have jumped the gun here.
You are either missing the point or purposely evading it. How does releasing such a statement to the press benefit himself, the players in question or the club in general?
Jose Mourinho is a highly experienced footballer manager who has dealt with media outlets from all across Europe, he knows full well that literally anything he says to the press will be scrutinized, contradicted and possibly misquoted, so why say anything to them at all?
@VP89 saying that this is how SAF would have dealt with things
SAF would not say a single bad thing about a player until they were set to leave the club; or more likely - after they leave the club.
The amount of average players we had under SAF, the players that had flirted with moving to City and & Liverpool - yet players were not pushed out to the media almost in weekly/monthly basis. Especially the ones who are the ones who are actually producing the results.
Where is the targetting of Lukaku and matic? They have been rubbish.
The guy is literally all about success- other than that there is really nothing that is enjoyable or beneficial to the club. The way we are viewed by the media, the way that we play football, the seperation of fans and so much more.
Woodward needs to stop doing the football work - however; if that is no reason to Jose to continue here. LVG was better for United than Jose. He had a system. He managed to get the best out of some of the younger players & only needed a new manager to adapt the older stagnant tactics by targetting better players than the ones LVG could attract.
Makes me sick.
Jose still uses a formation that doesnt get the best out of anyone. How is that Woodward's fault?
SAF would not say a single bad thing about a player until they were set to leave the club; or more likely - after they leave the club.
The amount of average players we had under SAF, the players that had flirted with moving to City and & Liverpool - yet players were not pushed out to the media almost in weekly/monthly basis. Especially the ones who are the ones who are actually producing the results.
Where is the targetting of Lukaku and matic? They have been rubbish.
The guy is literally all about success- other than that there is really nothing that is enjoyable or beneficial to the club. The way we are viewed by the media, the way that we play football, the seperation of fans and so much more.
Woodward needs to stop doing the football work - however; if that is no reason to Jose to continue here. LVG was better for United than Jose. He had a system. He managed to get the best out of some of the younger players & only needed a new manager to adapt the older stagnant tactics by targetting better players than the ones LVG could attract.
Makes me sick.
Jose still uses a formation that doesnt get the best out of anyone. How is that Woodward's fault?
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