The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked

Is Mourinho’s time as United manager up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2,296 77.1%
  • No

    Votes: 293 9.8%
  • Not yet - needs more time to see if he can turn it around

    Votes: 388 13.0%

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For some reason I doubt these are recent quotes, does anyone know when he actually had that interview?

It sounds like something he said around the West Ham game and the media believe it's a good time to bring it up..
 
Bit ironic Jose going on about maturity.

Hope we get rid of the cnut ASAP.
 
I think these players need a hug, pretty sure Jose isn´t going to provide that.
But if you are a harden professional with a reputation he might, but a youth player under Jose is a is a sad sight to say the least.
My stand with Jose has always been this since he came that if he could get the results I would bear him. Sadly he isn´t delivering and he should go before we loose any potentially good future players.
Watching us under Jose is so sad.

His greatest feat since he took over is to tell us and the press that the squad is shit and he hasn´t been backed, that is just plain wrong.
No unity, no consistency, no fluidity and he hasn´t even found his best 11 in his third year!
There are a lot of managers out there that could replace him, hell I would even take Conte at this point.
 
Ironically these comments and the way they will be spread out are the reason why he is wrong. Young players are now asked to be at the top of their game in their early 20s, they are expected to play and act with maturity at an early age and if they don't they are targeted at a global level, millions of people, hundreds of medias will target them on a daily basis, the scrutiny and expectations are a lot more intense today than it was in the past.
Great points.
 
About time. Not as if the fans are not thinking that .Prima donna players who believe they have arrived before putting in the work.
 
By all means find a quote from Ferguson that questions the ability or the 'cojones' of his players.

Most of the criticism I remember from Ferguson on players (Beckham, Ronaldo, Rooney etc) was always on decision-making (in game) or lacking concentration (telling Jonny Evans to 'fecking wake up!').

That's a lot different than what Mourinho does.
 
About time. Not as if the fans are not thinking that .Prima donna players who believe they have arrived before putting in the work.

Football’s changed, he hasn’t. The personal shit is pointless. The last person who could go on about behaviour and maturity too.

Seems to forget Martial is one of the few that has performed and basically kept him in a job recently.
 
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Mourinho: "Luke Shaw, he's got big potential but doesn't know how to behave. Big potential, yes, big potential."

Mourinho: "We're talking about Luke Shaw, Martial, Lingard, Rashford - young, big potential, but at the end of the day it results in the word I cannot say, but you use it a lot here. Character, personality, they lack a little." #mulive [univision]

Mourinho: "They are spoilt kids now, the kids of today have a different life, an easier environment and i'm talking about the people around the players." #mulive [univision]

Mourinho: "They (young players) are lacking maturity - and let me be clear when I say maturity, I mean maturity on a personal level." #mulive [univision]

:lol:

Mourinho of all people talking about others lacking maturity
 
If Fergie said that no one would bat an eyelid. Same goes for Pep.

Probably not. Simply as them doing so would be a much bigger deal as they are not chirping away in the press every other fecking week calling out whoever is his target at the time.
 
The man who embodies the definition of a spoilt child in a 50+ man’s body talking about others being spoilt kids. You really could not make it up.
 
There's some truth in what he says but does he really have to name drop his own players? What is he trying to achieve by saying that to the fecking public?
 
There's some truth in what he says but does he really have to name drop his own players? What is he trying to achieve by saying that to the fecking public?

He's protecting himself.

Like he's done since he arrived here.

*raise three fingers* "Respect"

It's actually very similar to Moyes who also did everything to avoid taking responsibility for the mess.
 
Ironically these comments and the way they will be spread out are the reason why he is wrong. Young players are now asked to be at the top of their game in their early 20s, they are expected to play and act with maturity at an early age and if they don't they are targeted at a global level, millions of people, hundreds of medias will target them on a daily basis, the scrutiny and expectations are a lot more intense today than it was in the past.

Feck off snowflake... Here was me thinking you were a 'grown ass man'.
 
Probably not. Simply as them doing so would be a much bigger deal as they are not chirping away in the press every other fecking week calling out whoever is his target at the time.

Yes. If a mature person said that young players lack maturity nobody would bat an eyelid because they arent being hypocritical

Yep cant argue there.
 
Great points.

An other point, players and managers share the same entourage, he has the same entourage than these young players, his own agent is one of the most famous figure of players' entourage. Managers get incredible amounts of money and fame at a far higher speed than they used to too.
 
He's right but there wasn't any need to say it right now.
He doesn't like when they talk and write shite about him so should refrain from this kind of comments. Only gives fire to the media and doesn't help in any kind.
 
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If Fergie said that no one would bat an eyelid. Same goes for Pep.
I doubt Fergie would say that sort of thing on public when the team is struggling. That's the key here. It's not about being right or wrong.
 


M.E.N also saying that his interview with Univision was more than a month ago. Let's see if there are more updates.

Edit: Sport Witness later got the source it seems and proceeded with translating it.
 
Apparently, every older generation regards the following generation as 'soft'; give it a rest, granddad...
 
Makes you wonder why players like Shaw and Martial would want to play for a Manager that likes to critise their footballing form and now their personalities. Dont blame any of our squad for wanting out at this rate.
 
I doubt Fergie would say that sort of thing on public when the team is struggling. That's the key here. It's not about being right or wrong.

The only thing I can remember anywhere near it is Ferguson's clash with Beckham from 2000 onwards (until he left). About his professionalism (or sometimes lack of it as he saw it) and his issues with his growing celebrity. But even still and maybe I'm wrong, I'm pretty sure there wasn't quotes every other month about it and he wasn't questioning Beckham's ability or determination on the pitch either.

And let's be fair, there's two sides to that Beckham issue. There's plenty of reasons to see Ferguson was being well over the top during that period. So it's not even like Ferguson came off well from it.
 
The interview was a month ago only just aired. Doesn't change anything.
I blame Ed Woodward for this situation. The club wants to build a young squad. Why employ this guy?
 


M.E.N also saying that his interview with Univision was more than a month ago. Let's see if there are more updates.

Edit: Sport Witness later got the source it seems and proceeded with translating it.


The only thing that appears to be misinterpreted is that he didn't say 'Shaw doesn't know how to behave'.

The rest is true from what I've seen. Basically they're immature and can't compete.
 
Mourinho: "Luke Shaw, he's got big potential but doesn't know how to behave. Big potential, yes, big potential."

Mourinho: "We're talking about Luke Shaw, Martial, Lingard, Rashford - young, big potential, but at the end of the day it results in the word I cannot say, but you use it a lot here. Character, personality, they lack a little." #mulive [univision]

Mourinho: "They are spoilt kids now, the kids of today have a different life, an easier environment and i'm talking about the people around the players." #mulive [univision]

Mourinho: "They (young players) are lacking maturity - and let me be clear when I say maturity, I mean maturity on a personal level." #mulive [univision]

:lol:
I understand journalists and pundits publicly name-dropping and bashing our players, but the manager? Maturity, character, spoilt kids. Fecking hell. It seems his awful coaching and tactics is just part of problem.
 
Even Ed isn't going to be fooled into signing 76-year-olds by these shenanigans.
 

From the first link (which I've already read).
For example, this kid, Luke Shaw, who is currently the national team’s left-back, when I arrived here two years ago, he didn’t know how to compete. He had great potential, yes, but he didn’t know how to compete. When we talk about Luke Shaw, Martial, Lingard, Rashford, we’re talking about kids with great potential but still lack a word I can’t say but that you like a lot… they lack a bit of that.”

Our best guess there is that Mourinho, speaking in Spanish, wanted to say ‘cojones’, which means ‘balls’, but the interviewer then puts forward ‘character’, which Mourinho agreed with, also adding ‘lacking personality and that natural aggression’.

Still fcuking stupid comments to make. And basically just protecting himself.

But Mourinho suck-ups will just go 'fake quotes' and pretend he said nothing at all.
 
From the first link (which I've already read).


Still fcuking stupid comments to make. And basically just protecting himself.

But Mourinho suck-ups will just go 'fake quotes' and pretend he said nothing at all.

The difference doesn't even change the point that he tries to make.
 
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