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The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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So you're arguing that the board should have backed him by getting him the players he didn't want?
Defensive leader part is interesting because according to the press we were getting linked with both young and older CB's and none of the younger ones are leaders in their clubs. Skriniar has Miranda, Maguire has Morgan, Koulibaly has Albiol...heck even Varane has Ramos.
Do it, Flo.
For me, this is the most worrisome part in the whole saga. I am still trying to figure out why some fans are so vehemently backing Mourinho. If he is moaning after every match about not having a CB, then he is not doing his job correctly (I still believe a top class CB should have been signed, btw), then he is not doing his job at all. Where is the Mourinho who made Porto and Inter champions on such low budgets? I was so happy when we signed Mourinho as his biggest strengths were touted as being a master tactician and excellent man manager Sadly, he seems to have lost both those skills. And he is now feeding into fan's ego and making them blame everyone except the manager
He’s dead right. I agree with every word Ince said.
I think he was ready to go at one point, but I kind of believe he wants to stay now, no idea why, but he's not acting as much like a man desperate for the exit door as he once was.
Oh I agree, just echoing a thread title that was made on here when Scholes came out against Mourinho
OkayOh I agree, just echoing a thread title that was made on here when Scholes came out against Mourinho
His comments about Everton spending are ridiculous. He’s spent a fortune here and we’re fecking 10th.
Sick of him and his excuses, I am at Moyes levels of frustration with him now.
Just leave our club now, please.
Sick of him and his excuses, I am at Moyes levels of frustration with him now.
Just leave our club now, please.
Honestly if he goes to Madrid he'll probably be a lot happier there. His wife would more than likely go with him and not stay behind in London. He has looked miserable in Manchester from pretty much the beginning. I know a lot of people downplay it but I believe that living in the hotel, away from his family, for years has had a bad effect on him.
He looks like a man who just cannot be bothered anymore. His whole demeanour, body-language, etc. He's just going through the motions, waiting for the inevitable to happen.
There's no way this gets better - I mean, really, how can anyone expect him to stay on and things improve?
He looks like a man who just cannot be bothered anymore. His whole demeanour, body-language, etc. He's just going through the motions, waiting for the inevitable to happen.
There's no way this gets better - I mean, really, how can anyone expect him to stay on and things improve?
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His sacking can't come quick enough. Turned us into the laughing stock of the PL and Europe and some people are happy for it to continue.
Is Manchester really so bad to live in? It seems like players who come to us end up hating it but City's players love it. We pay them all enough money to live in absolute luxury
Yes,I was referring to the made up quotes. I fell for it.
The tweet is genuine though. it sounds like another dig at Ed Woodward.
It's only a matter of time before he's sacked or is offered the job at RM. I hope RM get tonked by Barca this weekend and Perez gets a boner for Jose.
I think Jose is now just wumming the United board.
Pretty much goading them into sacking him but we all know why they wont.$.
Pretty much goading them into sacking him but we all know why they wont.$.
Jose "Hey,Ed.If you want me to go then pay up !.Oh,you're not going to pay up ? oh wells.lols.Laters Motherf*cka"
In a manner, yes - give him quality players that fill the needs that he has identified but not necessarily the specific player that he wants (particularly if there is better value or a player that fits the long term plan of the club better). For example, at Inter, Mourinho wanted Carvalho and Chelsea was going to fleece them over it, so the club got Lucio despite initial protests by Mourinho, but he later admitted that the club made the right choice.
On defensive leaders, some show potential for it, while some have just never had a need to do so. First prerequisite is good football IQ which is why I dont see Bailly developing into one. Varane has shown he can be and I think does it for France. Koulibaly and Skriniar I have serious doubts on 9as I feel they are more physical than intellectual in their approach) while maguire i am not so sure of. I cant really think of any reasonable target that is not plagued by age, cost and/or injuries
Good defensive leaders are hard to find and extremely rare at the younger age (with Nesta probably being the most precocious i have seen). Most are developed under long tutelage (e.g. maldini v baresi, Ramos v Cannavaro+carvalho, Terry v Carvalho) but the impact of one can be transforming (see van dijk for liverpool). Lindelof is probably the best candidate we have in-house, but he is very far from the required level, and would likely need 3-5yrs more of blunders learning on the job to be at a reasonable level.
He's been doing that since the season started really.
I get the blokes frustrations on some levels, but he should still be doing better with what he's already got.
There is a fair question to be asked of who is responsible if we have not gotten value for our money - the manager that requests a particular player or the management that overpaid for the player? I put more blame on management as they are the ones who handle the negotiation of transfer fees and wages.
Guy won't play those players he wanted and he himself bought, what makes you think he would do it now when he's more bitter than ever? What makes you think it would just be like with Schweini?
Also Emanalo and Granovskaya did that to him in Chelsea and he had a fallout with them.
There's a reason why Mou had moved from one clown to another (Abramovich, Moratti, Perez, Abramovich again and Woody). Any club with proper football experienced CEOs and DOFs in place would stir away from this toxic person. He's a drama queen whose got absolutely no idea of how to work as a team player and will throw anyone under the bus. Just ask Emanalo, Valdano and Granosvskaya
As much as they annoying, these comments are stupid too. Are Everton going to reach Barca's level buy buying or loaning players who couldn't hack it at Barca? How does that make any sense? Were Everton trying to reach our level when they bought Phil Neville in the past or Schneiderlin recently?
Good point, you don't reach Uefacelona's levels by scooping up their rejects like Mina and Gomez. Very dumb statement to make.
I get his frustration but just compare his reaction to Pochettino, who didn't get a single player.
One keeps complaining while the other has simply gotten on with it.
One keeps complaining while the other has simply gotten on with it.
Would Carrick play more attacking?
I feel that given how poor our defenders are (ie. they need DMs to protect them, otherwise they let the attacker shoot at goal, with ease), he'd have no choice but to follow the same strategy that Jose and LVG did (ie. playing ultra defensive).
It would certainly be interesting to see what happens.
Everything he's saying, from Everton ambitions, to keeping De Gea, to Juventus being a big club with a big future, it's all about pointing fingers at Ed and the board. The speculation might be off him for the time being, but he's not helping himself at all. You'd think he'd want to revel in the attention if we were at the top of the league and smashing it, but since we are 11th or something and already out of a cup, you'd think he'd keep a low profile and move on.
It's the middle of the season now, window is closed, shut up and get on with it. What is starting a war with your employers going to achieve at this stage?
It's the middle of the season now, window is closed, shut up and get on with it. What is starting a war with your employers going to achieve at this stage?
The whiny cnut is sounding more and more like Moyes by the week
He sounds like someone who cannot get his own way and as sure as hell does not like it? All he will be seeing is his CV with another black mark on it. It is about him and not about what harm is being done to the team and the reputation of the club.
It is a mess. He snipes at the board and they leak stories to the press, back and forth and bugger the consequences.
Whether he gets sacked, leaves for Real or joins the circus, he won't be at the club much longer. He is clearly aware of this fact and plans to get as many shots in at the owners as possible, as a means of deflecting the blame from himself. This situation is identical to how it ended for him at Chelsea and Real. I still find it hard to believe that Perez is even considering re-appointing him.
It's all getting a bit tedious now. He needs to go asap.
He is only interested when he is competing. He knows we aren't so gets his buzz from being belligerent.
He behaves like a man who doesn't give a shit if he's sacked, and yet our pathetic board still won't sack him.
Never actually believed he was trying to get sacked but now it's more than plausible he doesn't want to be around to manage this car crash of a season. Like th guy who quits a game of Fifa after going 3 down and doesn't want to play anymore
That tweet above is about as bad as it gets.
He's basically comparing the clubs ambitions to that of fecking Everton - after spending £400 million of the clubs money, whilst Everton hasn't come remotely close to that figure - if that isn't a direct insult to the board I honestly don't know what is. Not to mention it is an outright lie.
Is he actively asking for the sack?
I want Mourinho to stay and everything to come together and we kick on. But lets be realistic, we are shit at football and it will only get progressively worse. I also want blame some of the players, get rid of players like Valencia/Smalling/Jones/Young as they have utterly failed in their duty to carry the Man Utd ethos through the squad changes. They are meant to be senior players but have been a fecking disgrace over the last few seasons.
Ed needs to step aside from football matters and put in a modern structure of scouting and build some sort of plan for the future.
I'm not as angry as I was with Moyes and Van Gaal but Jose has certainly disappointed me this season and it is now time to go. I would like to see Laurent Blanc brought in on a 2 year contract until we get our shit together because right now all I see is the inevitable Europa league exit and a battle to stay around 6th-8th position in the league.
Ed needs to step aside from football matters and put in a modern structure of scouting and build some sort of plan for the future.
I'm not as angry as I was with Moyes and Van Gaal but Jose has certainly disappointed me this season and it is now time to go. I would like to see Laurent Blanc brought in on a 2 year contract until we get our shit together because right now all I see is the inevitable Europa league exit and a battle to stay around 6th-8th position in the league.
Said it several times. When Jose gets defensive everyone takes collateral damage. His players, his employers, although I can't remember his belittling the status of any of his other clubs every week so this is a new low
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