The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked

Is Mourinho’s time as United manager up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2,296 77.1%
  • No

    Votes: 293 9.8%
  • Not yet - needs more time to see if he can turn it around

    Votes: 388 13.0%

  • Total voters
    2,977
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Well there's no way we're finishing top 4, so he'll be gone eventually. Shame we'll just to suffer for months before it happens, but whatever.
 
You'd say it was expected that, with their current squad, they face Toulouse, Nimes, Angers and ASSE and end up getting two points out of 12?

There were no expectations, it's almost a completely new team and key players have been mainly injured in August and September. Everyone was puzzled by the signings though.

Edit: Something to keep in mind, this is the worst squad since 2012 on every lines.
 
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That’s fair.

And is probably true of myself. Whilst there’s still a chance and all that...

However I’m not blind to Mourinho’s shortcomings and I recognise that it will probably take his dismissal for things to be turned around.

People act as if being sad to see Mourinho go makes you less of a United fan. Or unless you’re calling him a ‘fraud’ and calling for his head, you don’t have the best interests of United at heart. I don’t have to turn on Jose to prove my worth. It shouldn’t be that black and white.

Above all else, I’m saddened by the whole situation. I’d like Jose to succeed. I’d like Manchester United to succeed. If those two things can’t happen as one, then so be it. That’s life.

A surprisingly sensible and well thought out post.
I feel very much the same and am really disappointed at the current situation. United urgently needs stability both on and off the pitch.

Another sacking might result in a short term improvement (and it might not of course) but another new manager/coach would be highly unlikely to want to work with the current squad..
 
My fear is that the board have no real blueprint going forward. I'd feel so much better if we could bed in our DOF before José left; how high of a priority is the DOF anyway? We do need a new manager, that I believe but if trudging along with Mourinho for the for seeable future allows the board to sort things out then so be it. Hiring the next manager without changing any of the footballing structure will lead us nowhere I believe. With all that being said, a DOF is not a panacea, you still have to hire the right one.
 
Those backing Jose should see the job Emery is doing under worse owners, a more meagre transfer budget and arguably a worse midfield and defense (well, maybe equals in defense). Pretty or not, Arsenal are scoring as he's got their forwards ticking.
 
Those backing Jose should see the job Emery is doing under worse owners, a more meagre transfer budget and arguably a worse midfield and defense (well, maybe equals in defense). Pretty or not, Arsenal are scoring as he's got their forwards ticking.

Exactly and he didn't get any new defenders
 
Those backing Jose should see the job Emery is doing under worse owners, a more meagre transfer budget and arguably a worse midfield and defense (well, maybe equals in defense). Pretty or not, Arsenal are scoring as he's got their forwards ticking.

Sshhh. Don’t talk sense.
 
Those backing Jose should see the job Emery is doing under worse owners, a more meagre transfer budget and arguably a worse midfield and defense (well, maybe equals in defense). Pretty or not, Arsenal are scoring as he's got their forwards ticking.

Spot on. Its not like we were smashing teams for 4 consistently at the start of last season is it.

Ah wait.
 
How are people thinking we'll finish top 4 because we just about beat Newcastle at home?! This place is hilarious.
Look at the Yes vote percentage swinging like ram nuts depending on the result of each game. Knee jerk cafe.
 
Spot on. Its not like we were smashing teams for 4 consistently at the start of last season is it.

Ah wait.

And? There's a difference between relying on purple patches and clinical finishing of players (which fizzled out) and actually coaching an attack. Got a theory then why the 4-0s have run out despite having the same players?

Give the Arsenal attack to Mourinho, they won't cross 60 goals over the season.
 
The players have lost their belief in the manager. That belief is not coming back, even if they can inspire themselves to a decent performance for 15 minutes every now and then. Does anyone truly believe Jose can turn this club around in a complete 180? Of course not. Only a new man can do that.

He's still a world class manager and I have no doubt he'll find success elsewhere. But his leadership capital in the Old Trafford dressing room is spent.

He has to go.
 
Go. It's bad enough watching City and Liverpool play attacking football but now Chelsea and Arsenal are joining in with managers that have been here 3 months. Smaller teams have also outplayed us at OT this season.
 
Just noticed we’ve conceded the 4th most goals in the league. Considering how shite some teams are this season that’s just pathetic. 14 goals conceded in 8 games.
 
And? There's a difference between relying on purple patches and clinical finishing of players (which fizzled out) and actually coaching an attack. Got a theory then why the 4-0s have run out despite having the same players?

Give the Arsenal attack to Mourinho, they won't cross 60 goals over the season.

We hit a terrible run of injuries around about where the form went (Pogba Herrera Fellaini for months at a go. Bailey major surgery in Nov to Feb)..and yeah the purple patch went too so there's that element.

Why are you claiming that Emery is down to good coaching and not a purple patch? It's a bit silly to claim that given we are in October and same time last year we looked formidable too. Arsenal have actually won quite a few games u deservedly on chances. Everton, Watford being good examples. West Ham too IIRC.
 
PSG and Jose are like oil and water. It's not like he's been great in the CL recently either, which is what they really care about. He'd be an absolute disaster.
 
Jose needs to go, unless the team goes on a winning strek against the chavs, City and the Old Lady. I am afraid that we won't win any of those games and will be 10+pts below the leaders in a couple of matchdays.
 
Even if we got results against Chelsea, City, Juve, to me it proves very little, he's done alright against the big teams, it's the cannon fodder we should be beating with ease where we look toothless and tumescent.
 
We hit a terrible run of injuries around about where the form went (Pogba Herrera Fellaini for months at a go. Bailey major surgery in Nov to Feb)..and yeah the purple patch went too so there's that element.

I am talking about this season. I actually excused Mourinho for the second half of last season myself.

So why isn't he winning 4-0 with these players + an attack minded Fred? All down to a purple patch? Precisely my point.

Why are you claiming that Emery is down to good coaching and not a purple patch? It's a bit silly to claim that given we are in October and same time last year we looked formidable too. Arsenal have actually won quite a few games u deservedly on chances. Everton, Watford being good examples. West Ham too IIRC.

Emery is doing it with hardly a transfer budget, while Jose was backed for 2 seasons. Neither were we "formidable" in the 4-0s, merely clinical. And no, clearly the Arsenal forward players are coached and not merely relying on individual brilliance, as anyone with eyes can see.
 
Just deal with him either way at the end of the season. It would be crazy to sack him now.
 
Just deal with him either way at the end of the season. It would be crazy to sack him now.
I tend to agree, but they need to know exactly who is coming in to sort out the players they want and don't want. Otherwise next summer will be another of not being able to sell players and not getting players we want. It is a strange one as you need to keep Jose interested just to see if he can get us near Top 4. If he has already lost interest we might has well just right it off and get everything in place for next season.
 
If we needed any proof/evidence why he should be fired immediately he provided it yesterday.

Starting with tactics/players and conceding ridiculous goals to a crap team and then turning round the match because we took risks and players played to their ability.

We are a shambles of a football team.

..and shambles of a football club.

This from a supporter who has followed his club from the 60s.
 
If we needed any proof/evidence why he should be fired immediately he provided it yesterday.

Starting with tactics/players and conceding ridiculous goals to a crap team and then turning round the match because we took risks and players players played to their ability.

We are a shambles of a football team.

..and shambles of a football club.

This from a supporter who has followed his club from the 60s.
It is sad. I enjoyed us getting the win, but I am not going to overlook why we had got ourselves in that hole in the first place and that was down to the manager.
 
He's not the man to lead us back to glory - but anyone we get in now isn't going to do that for us this season anyway.

So with that in mind, lets put in contingency plans in place, get some order back in the club - put a plan on the type of players to target in January and the Summer, and what future potential players we could look at too.

Lets actually have a plan, one that looks in the future for the next 2, 4, 5 years at least! You'd think a business our size would have something like that in place.
 
We came from 2-0 down to beat City last season, and nothing changed after that. How can you tell yourself something will change after a comeback against Newcastle at home?
 
It is sad. I enjoyed us getting the win, but I am not going to overlook why we had got ourselves in that hole in the first place and that was down to the manager.

He sabotaged the team against West Ham.

The way he set up the team with tactics and players to prove His point to Woodward...at the expense of supporters. We the supporters are the club. Not the Johnny come lately who picked the club based on adverts.
 
He sabotaged the team against West Ham.

The way he set up the team with tactics and players to prove His point to Woodward...at the expense of supporters. We the supporters are the club. Not the Johnny come lately who picked the club based on adverts.
Yep and then tried to same thing yesterday with Scott again. It is disgusting what he is doing to that lad.
 
Not to mention the melodramatic gesture to the crowd when Rashford missed a chance. Pathetic and self-serving.
 
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