The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked

Is Mourinho’s time as United manager up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2,296 77.1%

  • No

    Votes: 293 9.8%

  • Not yet - needs more time to see if he can turn it around

    Votes: 388 13.0%
  • Total voters
    2,977
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GhastlyHun said:
One last minute win against absolute relegation fodder who somehow managed to have you two down, and the Mou out option is down 2% :lol:
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It makes no sense, if anything the game should convince people that his shithouse initial decisions are hindering the team.
 
VJ1762 said:
ok,but if we finish outside the top 4, we would be in the europa league travelling to some remote eastern european nation( which will cause fatigue and affect the performance even more in the PL) and missing out on cl revenues as well as a drop in sponsor money from adidas(something related to participation in the cl for x amount of years in the sponsorship agreement). Also, you have to ask, will pogba stay? he is basically our entire midfield right now and if he goes, we are in for an absolute nightmare. Will de gea stay? I feel that we are taking his services for granted. If we feck up this season, he might just say, feck y'all and pack up his bags. So, we have the potential to lose our biggest assets in both midfield and in the goalkeeping department.

I say cut our losses right now, before it becomes more damaging next year. 29 million euros sounds huge, but it is not huge compared to the alternative.
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Pogba reportedly has his heart set on leaving, regardless of who the manager is, so I expect him to go in January/the summer anyway. Obviously if we have no Champions League football on offer next year, that might hurt our chances of keeping De Gea - his current deal expires at the end of this season (with the option of another year) and he has so far refused to sign a new one. If we can't persuade him in the next 9 months, I expect he'll be sold in the summer, too.

In terms of sponsorship, I believe the Adidas deal only reduces in value if we miss out on CL for two consecutive years, so I think we'd be ok for a year there. Obviously there would be a big financial hit, but it would be as a result of reduced TV/prize money from playing EL instead of CL. The question is, who could we get in that would immediately turn things around to the extent that we'd finish ahead of at least two of Chelsea/Arsenal/Spurs. At this point, you have to wonder if the season is simply a write-off, regardless.
 
Yesterday's game again highlights just how under-coached we are going forward, because it's either chuck the ball to flair players and pray they pull off some miracle, or just hoof it and swarm opposition box with bodies and last but not the least try to cross it and hope for the best.
 
Mr H said:
I would love to see some statistics about the poll.

Like the time people began supporting united, or where people are from, gender, age ...

I'm not suggesting anything, just curious about how the votes are distributed.
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From what i see( and i could be wrong), UK based fans and younger fans blame him and want him out. Older fans outside UK who watched Jose since day one (like me) want him to stay. And we blame players.
I repeat this is just my opinion, i am not saying that it is true. And i am not suggesting who is right and who is wrong.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
From what i see( and i could be wrong), UK based fans and younger fans blame him and want him out. Older fans outside UK who watched Jose since day one (like me) want him to stay. And we blame players.
I repeat this is just my opinion, i am not saying that it is true. And i am not suggesting who is right and who is wrong.
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There are plenty of fans that are old enough to have witnessed Mourinho's rise since his days working as translator at Barca and still never wanted him here due to his style of football, off pitch antics, constant moaning and never taking any responsibility etc.
 
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Andycoleno9 said:
From what i see( and i could be wrong), UK based fans and younger fans blame him and want him out. Older fans outside UK who watched Jose since day one (like me) want him to stay. And we blame players.
I repeat this is just my opinion, i am not saying that it is true. And i am not suggesting who is right and who is wrong.
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I get the impression that it’s the other way around and it’s a lot of the newer fans that want to keep Jose.
 
Sassy Colin said:
We win one game of football and suddenly some people have changed their minds about whether he should go or not.

How fickle some people are.
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It's ridiculous. You'd think Newcastle were difficult opposition or something.

In isolation it's a good win, having been 2-0 down for most of the game. But what does it change really? It changes nothing.

If you want Mourinho to stay/go - I don't know why you'd change your mind from this.
 
I think it’s the trophy chasers that want to keep Mourinho. Let’s look at his history, short term management stints, doesn’t leave foundations, dire football style

I think people who buy into the traditions of United over short-term wins want someone who can rebuild the club again
 
As for the result it changes nothing for me. It just means the key players put a bit more effort in for the 2nd half against a very poor Newcastle side for fear of total embarrassment
 
GhastlyHun said:
One last minute win against absolute relegation fodder who somehow managed to have you two down, and the Mou out option is down 2% :lol:
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What did you expect, our fanbase is just as clueless as the board...
 
golden_blunder said:
I think it’s the trophy chasers that want to keep Mourinho. Let’s look at his history, short term management stints, doesn’t leave foundations, dire football style

I think people who buy into the traditions of United over short-term wins want someone who can rebuild the club again
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I think that even if you were more casual/balanced about it (in the middle between traditions and winning trophies), you'd still want Mourinho out. Because ultimately his results just aren't good enough no matter how he has us playing. We don't score enough goals for a supposed top club, which is all casuals want to see.
 
Lol at people trying to attribute poll preference to demographic superiority. Sure only young fans and women want him gone
 
GhastlyHun said:
One last minute win against absolute relegation fodder who somehow managed to have you two down, and the Mou out option is down 2% :lol:
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Our fans are part of the problem we accept too much nonsense. I know you guys at Bayern wouldn't accept it.
 
JPRouve said:
It makes no sense, if anything the game should convince people that his shithouse initial decisions are hindering the team.
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This. I just want to understand the reasoning of someone that felt on Friday, he should go and now thinks he should stay.
 
Sassy Colin said:
We win one game of football and suddenly some people have changed their minds about whether he should go or not.

How fickle some people are.
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Absolutely. It was a great comeback but against the 2nd bottom team who are winless. If he strings together 5 to 6 wins (like the boring grind-outs we are used to) then he should stay till the end of the season then can be honourably discharged with a buy out. Saves face for everyone then.
 
I think some are so desperate for him to turn it around and get us playing well, that that are looking for any signs. I sympathize with that position but feel it's futile.
 
If we play like yesterday against Chelsea Juve etc we will get slaughtered....short minded people
 
Infra-red said:
If/when he does go, Zidane is not interested in replacing him:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...-says-agent-amid-Manchester-United-links.html
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Good as I don't think he's the right fit. However his excuse doesn't make sense. It's not like he's going to play. The manager dictates the style of play. Klopp, Guardiola and Sarri don't have issues with the style of football in the UK, I don't see why Zidane should. Think it's just a polite way of saying he doesn't want to live here.
 
Greck said:
Lol at people trying to attribute poll preference to demographic superiority. Sure only young fans and women want him gone
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That "older fans want him to stay" was as a subtle dig as any aimed at fans that want him gone.
 
FootyGirl88 said:
Our fans are part of the problem we accept too much nonsense. I know you guys at Bayern wouldn't accept it.
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Well, Bayern is not in any state to be used as an example right now. Not in a positive way, at least.
 
Mainoldo said:
What are you hoping to find?
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No idea really, just want to see if there's some trends in it.

Judas said:
Clearly suggesting something or you wouldn't care even a tiny bit about such statistics.
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I have no idea what we could find, i'm not even gonna make a hypothesis.

In my work, i do a lot of statistics, so that's something of interest to me.
 
I think we should go for a caretaker appointment then look at a permanent option in the summer. Tuchel, Poch and Jardim could be available.
 
Hmm maybe Blanc or Butt as caretaker manager till end of season if Jose gets sacked soon and then decide for a permanent manager next summer . I was hoping for Zidane but his agent made it quite clear it won't happen so better we wait till the summer to make the correct appointment .
 
Adisa said:
I think some are so desperate for him to turn it around and get us playing well, that that are looking for any signs. I sympathize with that position but feel it's futile.
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That’s fair.

And is probably true of myself. Whilst there’s still a chance and all that...

However I’m not blind to Mourinho’s shortcomings and I recognise that it will probably take his dismissal for things to be turned around.

People act as if being sad to see Mourinho go makes you less of a United fan. Or unless you’re calling him a ‘fraud’ and calling for his head, you don’t have the best interests of United at heart. I don’t have to turn on Jose to prove my worth. It shouldn’t be that black and white.

Above all else, I’m saddened by the whole situation. I’d like Jose to succeed. I’d like Manchester United to succeed. If those two things can’t happen as one, then so be it. That’s life.
 
FootyGirl88 said:
I think we should go for a caretaker appointment then look at a permanent option in the summer. Tuchel, Poch and Jardim could be available.
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Jardim will probably have been fired (he currently has Monaco in the relegation zone) and will therefore be "available". I'd expect Pochettino and Tuchel to still be with their clubs come the summer, though.
 
Poch could be available in the summer? How, what, why? He just signed a new contract and Spurs are perfectly happy with him finishing between 3rd and 6th.

As for Jardim, while Monaco is a sorry ass of a selling club, they still have a squad good enough to be compete for a top 3 position in Ligue 1. No excuse for him sitting a relegation zone with the team he has. Don't get how people would consider him as our manager.
 
klsv said:
Poch could be available in the summer? How, what, why? He just signed a new contract and Spurs are perfectly happy with him finishing between 3rd and 6th.

As for Jardim, while Monaco is a sorry ass of a selling club, they still have a squad good enough to be compete for a top 3 position in Ligue 1. No excuse for him sitting a relegation zone with the team he has. Don't get how people would consider him as our manager.
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You clearly have no idea about Ligue 1 or Monaco's current team.
 
klsv said:
Poch could be available in the summer? How, what, why? He just signed a new contract and Spurs are perfectly happy with him finishing between 3rd and 6th.

As for Jardim, while Monaco is a sorry ass of a selling club, they still have a squad good enough to be compete for a top 3 position in Ligue 1. No excuse for him sitting a relegation zone with the team he has. Don't get how people would consider him as our manager.
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Yep, I think Pochettino is unlikely. Also, when he eventually leaves Spurs, I expect it'll be for Madrid.
 
klsv said:
Poch could be available in the summer? How, what, why? He just signed a new contract and Spurs are perfectly happy with him finishing between 3rd and 6th.

As for Jardim, while Monaco is a sorry ass of a selling club, they still have a squad good enough to be compete for a top 3 position in Ligue 1. No excuse for him sitting a relegation zone with the team he has. Don't get how people would consider him as our manager.
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Our current manager had his previous team wallowing close to relegation before he was sacked.
Fwiw, I don't want Jardim.
 
JPRouve said:
You clearly have no idea about Ligue 1 or Monaco's current team.
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Mourinho would be suicidal if he had to deal with what Jardim does.
People think of Monaco and think they still have the same team as two years ago. The current side has nowhere near the quality of that side.
 
Regarding Jardim let’s not forget Klopp too was facing relegation at one stage and managing a side that was constantly selling its top players and eventually it took its toll. Jardim has had it worse tbh. So I wouldn’t write him off based on current Monaco form.
 
klsv said:
Poch could be available in the summer? How, what, why? He just signed a new contract and Spurs are perfectly happy with him finishing between 3rd and 6th.

As for Jardim, while Monaco is a sorry ass of a selling club, they still have a squad good enough to be compete for a top 3 position in Ligue 1. No excuse for him sitting a relegation zone with the team he has. Don't get how people would consider him as our manager.
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Let's just pray our board is not like you who just make decisions based on the league table after 6-7 matches.
 
JPRouve said:
You clearly have no idea about Ligue 1 or Monaco's current team.
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You'd say it was expected that, with their current squad, they face Toulouse, Nimes, Angers and ASSE and end up getting two points out of 12?

dove said:
Let's just pray our board is not like you who just make decisions based on the league table after 6-7 matches.
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Let's just pray you're not wanting Mourinho out after 8 matches into the season.
 
Adisa said:
Mourinho would be suicidal if he had to deal with what Jardim does.
People think of Monaco and think they still have the same team as two years ago. The current side has nowhere near the quality of that side.
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There is talent but it's among the youngest players who are clearly not ready, the likes of Pellegri, Mboula, Grandsir or Golovin. Aholou is absolutely trash, Almamy Touré and Jemerson have been terrible for more than a year now, older players are naturally declining. Long term they have talent but Jardim can't make time go faster.
 
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