After 7 games. It's utterly bizarre, Steve. Chris Smalling is our second highest goal scorer in 2018 I heard somewhere. It's just crazy.
The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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After 7 games. It's utterly bizarre, Steve. Chris Smalling is our second highest goal scorer in 2018 I heard somewhere. It's just crazy.
An obscene amount of money spent badly has us in this mess.
Agree that they probably can't win the league on their quality alone, but they're certainly capable of good performances and a good league finish. If the next manager comes in and proves that he can get the players playing to their potential then yeah I'd trust him with more money to improve the squad. The horrible performances right now are a direct result of Mourinho being abysmally poor at coaching attacking play.
There is no way this group is going to even challenge for Top 4 under Jose. I reckon Woodward will have no choice after 4-5 more games.
Good grief, Maxi.
He might well do. Let's hope he can.
Shouldn't you be concern with what Chelsea's going to do to your team later today,eh?
Like pogba and sanchez?
I see what you're saying. At some point it's no longer luck, it's the setup and the manager. I'm nearly at that turning point. And at that point I'll block this thread and move over to the dark side
The players gave up which is why we didn't beat Derby, Wolves and West Ham. He only got two players this summer which is inadequate given he need a CB and RW. If Mourinho had backing, we wouldn't be in this mess.
Before I go, tell me if you think Conte or Zidane can turn this around because good luck if you think they can. This season is over and October is about to start.
Good grief, Maxi.
Yeah someone replied to me with that stat on the caf a few days ago. I couldn't believe it.
Our best player is McTominay. The rest clearly aren't bothered. A new manager and a lot of new players needed.
Fecking hellSlightly off topic but just as depressing, I also read that since we sold Ronaldo every single number 7 we've replaced him with has scored a combined total of 13 league goals. In 9 fecking years...
So it was a mistake to sack moyes too? Mistake to sack van Gaal?
Hey how about I get hired. If I can’t do it in 6 years you can sack me ?
Why does he still need a CB when he bought 2 of them already ?
You are completely right, Jose has left an almighty mess that will take a few seasons to fix.
Honestly that's wrong, I'm not saying that they are great but history shows that players as a group can look very poor when the coaching staff is having a meltdown. Just in recent years, you can look at Chelsea or Bayern with Mourinho and Ancelotti. As much as people don't like that fact, the main influence of a manager is mental, they have the ability to destroy or build the spirit of a team.
Waiting for @VP89 to pop-up and tell us how by doing this he’s protecting the team and the club again and surely not trying to shift the blame from himself and save his brand.
At the start of his second season I made a thread on his there’s no way this will end well. Unfortunately the mods didn’t wanna hear it and it got deleted . We get papering over the cracks with fluke wins here and there . It was evident from season one that he wasn’t up to the task
Settle on a starting 11 and ride that unit with minimal changes. Find a way to have the side generate more quality chances. And make us solid again. We've conceded 12 goals already, the bleeding has to be staunched, and he knows how to do that.
When his methods function, he can work wonders. But when they don't, he can really fail miserably. His manipulation skills have worked for him while he was successful. Although, I wouldn't even say he is that good at manipulating. If he was, he would have realised at some point that his old ways aren't getting him what he wants, and he would be trying hard to let the fans and players hear what they want to hear. To save his own arse and buy himself some time, which obviously wouldn't have been good for the club.
His ego is to big for him to be capable of that though. But without it, he probably wouldn't have been so successful during his career in the first place. Unfortunately, it has only worked against him lately.
No no no, those 2 are shit and obviously the board's buys against Mourinho's wishes.
I think I was more optimistic about keeping Moyes.
Slightly off topic but just as depressing, I also read that since we sold Ronaldo every single number 7 we've replaced him with has scored a combined total of 13 league goals. In 9 fecking years...
We seemed to be suffering the same curse as Liverpool did with their no 7 after Kenny. They got Suarez eventually. Hopefully we can spot someone like that too.
It won’t save our skins though. Even if he pulls some wins out of his arse, he’s clearly not the right man for this club now. He was when we needed a quick fix, but enough is fecking enough.
Five years or so not enough?
We could try something with our current no. 7 like playing him upfront, since he actually can play well as a striker.
Whoever supports Jose at this point must be the same type of folks that wanted to give moyes more time as well
If the club was pulling in one direction and we were playing badly and getting bad results, I’d be more inclined to ride it out.
My biggest issue is no one seems to be on the page. No one wants to be on the same page. Clear rifts. Clear divides.
Given all the rubbish we’ve seen in the news lately, if the players wanted Mourinho you’d have seen a reaction. You’d have seen desire. A willing to fight. And we didn’t. And that concerns me as it means they don’t like nor want him there.
Now, that doesn’t put blame solely in Mourinho. He needs to go, but heck if we think a new manager would fix our underlying problems, we are deluded. And it says a lot about our team if they act like this.
My biggest issue is no one seems to be on the page. No one wants to be on the same page. Clear rifts. Clear divides.
Given all the rubbish we’ve seen in the news lately, if the players wanted Mourinho you’d have seen a reaction. You’d have seen desire. A willing to fight. And we didn’t. And that concerns me as it means they don’t like nor want him there.
Now, that doesn’t put blame solely in Mourinho. He needs to go, but heck if we think a new manager would fix our underlying problems, we are deluded. And it says a lot about our team if they act like this.
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Th club wants to hire a DoF which I have to think takes Woodward further away from personnel decisions
Fair enough. But, would you be disappointed/up in arms if he were to get sacked now?
They are capable of it, for sure. We saw that last season with our 2nd place finish. We're being coached badly, and are horribly low on morale, not to mention effort. I don't think there's any doubt about that, and the manager has to be held accountable. I do however think we actually overachieved last season.
It's bizarre. I was cautiously optimistic after last season that we'd have an excellent window and start challenging in earnest. But I think that poor window killed us.
They do. I won't disagree that the team are being coached poorly.
Hey they trained well!
Yeah I have hopes for Sanchez to start playing if we bring in a decent attacking coach.
Yea you gonna talk.
Because Lindelöf is crap and Bailly need a cool headed partner to complement his aggressive style. Most of the goals we conceded is bad defending. If Alderweirld was signed I bet we conceded only half of the goals and not look so shaky at the back.
If you still doubt Mourinho, look at last season defensive record. He's a master of setting up a tight defence but he needed a world class centre back which we don't have since Vidic and Rio.
What about a new poll on Jose? Think his most ardent supporters are on the verge now.
You echo my sentiments completely. I feel such a mug for believing and arguing that he would be different here... But it is what it is, we need to cut out the rot now.
We've seen sides be successful post Jose with the same players Jose has waged war on in the past so hopefully we also have that fate. Obviously I'd be super happy if he magically turned it around and we won the league miraculously but let's be real.
He's created a divisive atmosphere at the club, our own fans fight at every juncture its sad to watch. It's time to go.
People are still posting in this thread? Wow!
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