The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked

Is Mourinho’s time as United manager up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2,296 77.1%
  • No

    Votes: 293 9.8%
  • Not yet - needs more time to see if he can turn it around

    Votes: 388 13.0%

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I have been a supporter when he came first as he was a serial winner. Now he seems to have lost the plan and the plot and everything all together. He simply needs to go for this club to turn things around. He was bought for instant success and he has not delivered it. He needs to go now.
 
Mourinho out blud, i can't take this any more Robbie! You know what i'm saying fam?
 
Unlucky from a probability sense. I don't think recent results are a reflection of the quality in the squad or of the managing staff.

Now obviously if this run persists I'd have to revise that hypothesis. I'm not there yet. I'm getting closer though.
Honestly I don't get it, probability doesn't play matches. Recent results are IMHO a clear reflection of the managing staff, if anything else. You choose players/formations/tactics and cannot win games, you are 100% responsible
 
Fergie wasn't an antagonistic bastard though.

You'll get posters on here comparing the two. Apparently swearing a bit and getting angry is the same as being toxic.

When Fergie said whoppers like 'he could have killed the boy', people laughed.

Nobody laughs at Mourinho. Nobody laughs at a genuine cnut.
 
That is just not acceptable as a reason.

The only fortune he's had with us is getting a contract extension.

Fair enough.

How is he unlucky? Have you watched us play? This is some of the worst football I’ve ever seen in the history of the game, and Jose is directly responsible for it.

Yes, I watch us play. The game against Derby was very damaging. I thought 2 goals we conceded today were unfortunate (offside, deflection).
 
Even if we sack him nothing will change. That isn't an argument for keeping him, but the players are shit. The only thing going to fix this mess is an obscene amount of money. Again.
 
Fergie wasn't an antagonistic bastard though.
SAF's United could beat anyone on their day and the next day we will lose to Coventry or Oxford United. It was inconsistency and not the play that was the problem with SAF earlier on. Now with Jose the consistency is that we can get beat by everyone.
 
You'll get posters on here comparing the two. Apparently swearing a bit and getting angry is the same as being toxic.

When Fergie said whoppers like 'he could have killed the boy', people laughed.

Nobody laughs at Mourinho. Nobody laughs at a genuine cnut.

Thought they did, when he went on that rant about his 3 PL trophies.
 
To be fair you could add Spurs to that list of good performances even though we lost 3-0.

The good performances come entirely from the fact that we have a talented bunch of players in our squad, talented enough that their ability will shine through in spite of Jose's tactical approach and strategy. Good players simply win games of their own accord.

A mix of good and bad performances is down to the manager's tactics and his inability to consistently motivate his players. Jose has lost the dressing room and there is no getting it back after that happens. Surely you can see it's time for him to go.

Good post. I guess it's due to a lack of confidence, maybe too much team pragmatism over individual quality. It's moments of brilliance that win football matches.
 
Honestly I don't get it, probability doesn't play matches. Recent results are IMHO a clear reflection of the managing staff, if anything else. You choose players/formations/tactics and cannot win games, you are 100% responsible

I'm not saying he's not responsible for overall results! He selects the players and tactics, so yes the buck stops with him.

My sack threshold is just high.
 
It is not Jose alone and Pogba has to take responsibility to the crap we are playing.
 
There is no case for him to stay. Mourinho's fate was sealed even before a ball is kicked by not backing him in the summer window and it's only a matter of time before the inevitable. Today showed he lost support of his players. If this was last season, we'd be fighting until we turn the game around like away at Palace and City but this time the players don't look bothered. Lindelof storming to the tunnel sums it up.

I wonder how far we go down before Woodward notice something isn't right?
You're joking right? He's spent over 400mil€ how much more does he need to beat the likes of Derby County, WHU, Wolves and the likes?
Jesus christ some of you on here....
I'm literally speechless at some of the comments in this thread
 
I think he is a quality manager, and I think the results so far are "unlucky".

If this form persists for a few more weeks I'm willing to admit that this is far more than variation. However I think the mindset of "fire him and then deal with it" is misguided and the reason why us fans shouldn't be involved in club management. I'd be willing to see him go as part of a wider strategy.

So you're going with "we have been unlucky"? I'm sure you have heard the expression "great teams do not rely on luck, but when they do get lucky it is because they created it themselves"

Okay, I kinda made that up (sort of) but you get the picture I'm sure.
 
How the hell are Manchester United on minus-two goal difference? Scandalous.
 
Even if we sack him nothing will change. That isn't an argument for keeping him, but the players are shit. The only thing going to fix this mess is an obscene amount of money. Again.

So? It's clear he's failed at his job. It was worth some of the drama when we were winning but he's clearly failed to build United into a title challenging squad after 2 seasons. Someone sucks at their job you don't just let them keep doing it. Throw the season away, it's already been lost. Fire the dude and stick up for the players he's constantly throwing under the boss and maybe they'll show some effort. There's at least a chance of that whereas if we keep Mourinho the situation will just continue to deteriorate.
 
Fair enough.



Yes, I watch us play. The game against Derby was very damaging. I thought 2 goals we conceded today were unfortunate (offside, deflection).

2 goals were unfortunate but its our lack of creativity and poor defending that put us in that position. Poor line up and tactics and bad subs.
 
No they aren't.
Most of them aren't good enough to be challenging for the league. I'd say that's probably a large reason why we aren't doing so.

Replace Jose with Zidane, I'd be fine with that. But it wouldn't shock me at all if the same problems reared their head until we buy some actual quality. Zidane isn't suddenly going to transform Phil Jones into Cannavaro.
 
The club is rotten from top to bottom. Woodward is the man who should normally be sorting this out but how can he when he's an integral part of the problem?
 
I genuinely feel a bit dirty for liking Jose for so many years, only to see him come to the team I love and do.....this.

I still like him. Doesn't mean I want him to manage United. Everyone has their sell by date and he's done as top level manager. It is what it is.

Now with Moyes, there is irrational dislike for that man.
 
It hurts to say this... but in the back of my head I wanted a loss today. Speed up the process... a win every now and then and his life line extends for a while. The sooner the better, let the new manager (hopefully Zidane) have some time to get accustomed to the team, the players and the league.
 
So? It's clear he's failed at his job. It was worth some of the drama when we were winning but he's clearly failed to build United into a title challenging squad after 2 seasons. Someone sucks at their job you don't just let them keep doing it. Throw the season away, it's already been lost. Fire the dude and stick up for the players he's constantly throwing under the boss and maybe they'll show some effort. There's at least a chance of that whereas if we keep Mourinho the situation will just continue to deteriorate.
I don't disagree with you. I just don't think sacking him will make everything rosy again. It might be a start, and that's good enough. But it will be just that.
 
Right now it feels like just a matter of time before the axe falls. However, I don't think he'll be sacked in the next few weeks, so he must now find a way to get some results and save his skin. Time is running out, he knows that.

If/when Jose is sacked, Woodward needs to go with him. The leadership at the club just now seems non-existent.
 
I’ve been on the fence for a while but have fallen into the ‘out’ camp. The castle is falling down around him and a dressing room revolt is about to happen if it hasn’t already.

He’s not the only problem but he has created a lot of the discord himself, so should be held accountable.
 
Most of them aren't good enough to be challenging for the league. I'd say that's probably a large reason why we aren't doing so.

Replace Jose with Zidane, I'd be fine with that. But it wouldn't shock me at all if the same problems reared their head until we buy some actual quality. Zidane isn't suddenly going to transform Phil Jones into Cannavaro.
Only thing is, Zidane may be able to attract the top class players Mourinho can't because of his dire brand of football.
 
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