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rotherham_red said:
Anyone seen McGregor's Twitter? Looks like the man has been on the crack pipe again :lol:
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His whole act is just forcing his way into any fighters success it's pretty boring and same every time. He acts humble before and then after the event just does this. I think people will start to get bored of it, plenty already are and unless he hand picks Cerrone again he'll struggle in his next fight
 
Oggmonster said:
His whole act is just forcing his way into any fighters success it's pretty boring and same every time. He acts humble before and then after the event just does this. I think people will start to get bored of it, plenty already are and unless he hand picks Cerrone again he'll struggle in his next fight
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He's pretty much become a keyboard warrior now.
 
Oggmonster said:
His whole act is just forcing his way into any fighters success it's pretty boring and same every time. He acts humble before and then after the event just does this. I think people will start to get bored of it, plenty already are and unless he hand picks Cerrone again he'll struggle in his next fight
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Justin called him out
 
Raoul said:
Conor's schtick is getting old. Other fighters will play along in the hopes of getting the payday.
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What was his PPV numbers in his last fight? I think a lot of people have lost interest in him. He is losing relevance, especially now the market is much bigger with all the new viewers Khabib has attracted into the sport.

Also what was PPV numbers like for weekend fights?
 
sammsky1 said:
What was his PPV numbers in his last fight? I think a lot of people have lost interest in him. He is losing relevance, especially now the market is much bigger with all the new viewers Khabib has attracted into the sport.

Also what was PPV numbers like for weekend fights?
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What viewers? :lol:

People will only tune up (and buy PPV) to see him fight Conor, while viewers will show up for Conor even if he fights the waterboy (as seen in his last PPV vs Cerrone...).
 
sammsky1 said:
What was his PPV numbers in his last fight? I think a lot of people have lost interest in him. He is losing relevance, especially now the market is much bigger with all the new viewers Khabib has attracted into the sport.

Also what was PPV numbers like for weekend fights?
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The Cerrone fight got a million PPV buys. Conor has been involved in 5 of the top 6 PPV fights in UFC history and is their biggest draw by a country mile.

No word on this weekend's numbers yet.
 
George Owen said:
What viewers? :lol:
People will only tune up (and buy PPV) to see him fight Conor, while viewers will show up for Conor even if he fights the waterboy (as seen in his last PPV vs Cerrone...).
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I thought it was obvious that Khabib has brought in a huge number of new fans from Russia, Caucus and Muslim dominated countries, who will only tune in when he or his comrades fight.

Raoul said:
The Cerrone fight got a million PPV buys. Conor has been involved in 5 of the top 6 PPV fights in UFC history and is their biggest draw by a country mile.
No word on this weekend's numbers yet.
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Thanks. Was looking at these numbers: https://www.businessinsider.com/the...field-v-mike-tyson-ii-199-million-ppv-buys-50

Aside from Khabib record, all those fights were when Conar was a much more likeable and able fighter, rather than the controversial, divisive and less able fighter he has now become.

Would you agree his golden egg breaks the next time he loses? It would seem to me that his popularity has peaked. I don't see how he can generate so much interest and love into the future.
 
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sammsky1 said:
I thought it was obvious that Khabib has brought in a huge number of new fans from Russia, Caucus and Muslim dominated countries, who will only tune in when he or his comrades fight.



Thanks. Was looking at these numbers: https://www.businessinsider.com/the...field-v-mike-tyson-ii-199-million-ppv-buys-50

Aside from Khabib record, all those fights were when Conar was a much more likeable and able fighter, rather than the controversial, divisive and less able higher and figure he has now become.

Would you agree his golden egg breaks the next time he loses? It would seem to me that his popularity has peaked. I don't see how he can generate so much interest and love into the future.
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Conor is probably one or two notches off his peak (which was probably around the time he fought Diaz/Mayweatther/and Khabib). He's still even now the UFC's biggest financial draw.

The whole UFC game is built around money it makes from North American PPV sales. Khabib may well have a lot of fans in Russia and the Muslim world, but a vast majority of them watch the UFC for free, so they wouldn't factor into the American/Canadian PPV buys.
 
Raoul said:
Conor is probably one or two notches off his peak (which was probably around the time he fought Diaz/Mayweatther/and Khabib). He's still even now the UFC's biggest financial draw.
The whole UFC game is built around money it makes from North American PPV sales. Khabib may well have a lot of fans in Russia and the Muslim world, but a vast majority of them watch the UFC for free, so they wouldn't factor into the American/Canadian PPV buys.
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George Owen said:
Of course, but they don't buy PPV. They don't bring money to the UFC.
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Yeah, makes sense, my bad. Big difference between no of fans vs PPV buyers.
 
sammsky1 said:
:lol::lol::lol: You’re so right!! In fact it is the absolute perfect description of him right now.

His detractors should spam his IG account with that new title.
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Go on his Twitter. Put your phone close to your nose. Take a sniff... You'll smell the stench of Proper Piss Whiskey reeking from his tweets.
 
cyberman said:
Justin called him out
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Wasn't that before the Tony fight? Back in January when Conor wasn't interested. Now Gaejthe has got some attention he jumps all over it. It's just s boring act now and the reality is he probably won't fight any contender he'll pick an easy fight like he did last time to protect his image
 
Oggmonster said:
Wasn't that before the Tony fight? Back in January when Conor wasn't interested. Now Gaejthe has got some attention he jumps all over it. It's just s boring act now and the reality is he probably won't fight any contender he'll pick an easy fight like he did last time to protect his image
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Nope, after he fought Tony.
 
Himannv said:
Why just these days? Isn't he always like this?
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I dunno, I think whilst he was probably always a bit odd he was also genuinely funny for a while. In his early UFC days it was a pretty good story and he got people excited for fights and was legitimate in the sense he'd fight whoever and whenever, it was refreshing at that time. Now he's a bit tedious really. I'm sure some people didn't like his character in the early days as well but plenty of people did and he got millions of eyes on the sport who didn';t watch it before hand.
 
Oggmonster said:
I dunno, I think whilst he was probably always a bit odd he was also genuinely funny for a while. In his early UFC days it was a pretty good story and he got people excited for fights and was legitimate in the sense he'd fight whoever and whenever, it was refreshing at that time. Now he's a bit tedious really. I'm sure some people didn't like his character in the early days as well but plenty of people did and he got millions of eyes on the sport who didn';t watch it before hand.
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I don't think he's really doing anything different. He still runs his mouth, talks smack, and acts like he's the best thing since sliced bread. Does the same old personal attacks and joke insults to promote possible fights. The only thing new is that he's also promoting his shit whiskey. Apart from that I don't see a big difference between what he's doing now and what he did around the time he faced Aldo for example.
 
Himannv said:
I don't think he's really doing anything different. He still runs his mouth, talks smack, and acts like he's the best thing since sliced bread. Does the same old personal attacks and joke insults to promote possible fights. The only thing new is that he's also promoting his shit whiskey. Apart from that I don't see a big difference between what he's doing now and what he did around the time he faced Aldo for example.
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He wasn't assaulting people when he was fighting Aldo. He did talk shit and it did get personal to an extent but it was said with a smile on his face as well and it seemed more typical humourous trash talk. If you watch some of the Aldo press conferences to the Khabib ones for example there's a huge difference. He was alright in the Cerrone build up but I think that was more cos he knew it was an easy fight.

Maybe he was always like this and I just got bored of it and never noticed the first time but he seems far more messed up now than he was when he first broke through
 
Himannv said:
I don't think he's really doing anything different. He still runs his mouth, talks smack, and acts like he's the best thing since sliced bread. Does the same old personal attacks and joke insults to promote possible fights. The only thing new is that he's also promoting his shit whiskey. Apart from that I don't see a big difference between what he's doing now and what he did around the time he faced Aldo for example.
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Yeah, if anything its Justin being stupidly personal over this with hin bringing up Conors rape accusations and abilities as a father just to bait him into a fight
 
Pretty much ignore Conor nowadays but I'd pick him to send Gaethje to a different 'special place' to what Gaethje had in mine should they ever meet.
 
Oggmonster said:
He wasn't assaulting people when he was fighting Aldo. He did talk shit and it did get personal to an extent but it was said with a smile on his face as well and it seemed more typical humourous trash talk. If you watch some of the Aldo press conferences to the Khabib ones for example there's a huge difference. He was alright in the Cerrone build up but I think that was more cos he knew it was an easy fight.

Maybe he was always like this and I just got bored of it and never noticed the first time but he seems far more messed up now than he was when he first broke through
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I don't think he was very serious about things he said in the buildup to the Khabib fight either. I mean, he seemed more serious about promoting that whiskey of his than anything he was actually saying to Khabib. I doubt he really knows or cares about Russian politics for example. With Aldo he was saying things in Brazilian and saying he owned Rio and things like that. Pretty much the same modus operandi if you ask me. I just think people have kind of got used to it and he just comes across as grating and annoying now.
 
Himannv said:
I don't think he was very serious about things he said in the buildup to the Khabib fight either. I mean, he seemed more serious about promoting that whiskey of his than anything he was actually saying to Khabib. I doubt he really knows or cares about Russian politics for example. With Aldo he was saying things in Brazilian and saying he owned Rio and things like that. Pretty much the same modus operandi if you ask me. I just think people have kind of got used to it and he just comes across as grating and annoying now.
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There as a lot of racial undertone to what he said to Khabib.

Agree to disagree this will go on forever I think he's got worse you don't which is fair enough
 
Himannv said:
That isn't what I'm saying at all. I'm saying he was pretty bad always. :lol:
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My point was if you're being racist it's serious whether he intended to be or not.

Again it's a matter of opinion were talking about something which in the grand scheme of things doesn't matter
 
Some of the stuff he said to Khabib was outright racist, though there were similar themes with other fighters prior to that too. Whether it was calling Dennis Siver a Nazi, telling Aldo that in different times he would have ridden into his favela on horseback to kill anyone who wasn't fit to work or calling Mayweather "boy" and saying he was black from the waist down, he was no stranger to racial undertones or overtones prior to the Khabib fight.

I think the difference is that some people were initially inclined to defend him by saying he didn't really mean the comments in that way, so they were more readily overlooked as part of the McGregor hype machine. Whereas by the time the Khabib fight rolled around people were less inclined to defend him due to his general behaviour, plus the "he didn't really mean it" excuse had lost validity after he kept on doing it.
 
sammsky1 said:
What was his PPV numbers in his last fight? I think a lot of people have lost interest in him. He is losing relevance, especially now the market is much bigger with all the new viewers Khabib has attracted into the sport.

Also what was PPV numbers like for weekend fights?
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that's the thing with Conor, it seemed pre Cerrone fight he'd lost public support for various reasons. But the tickets for that fight sold out in record time, it brought in over one million streams on espn+, the first streaming event to break that number. Over 10,000 people travelled over from Ireland, I've seen much higher numbers on that figure, but let's be conservative and say around 10k to see him fight a guy on a losing streak who, correct me if I'm wrong had never headlined a ppv fight before, and who went from from headlining that event to fighting on prelims in his next fight. I'm from Ireland, I definitely thought interest had waned in him but to see that many people travel in hard economic times and pay that kind of money speaks volumes. I've been to Conor fights in the past, and the atmosphere is amazing, but like others on here I don't think he's the fighter he was, say v Alvarez. He seemed much more focused last fight in fairness to him, which in all truth was a gimme, but this notion in the UFC that you don't fight for 2 yrs and then jump straight back in and fight guys like Khabib without any warm up fights always strikes me as strange. I think Dominic Cruz who hadn't fought in 4 yrs could have done with a warm up fight before taking on Cejudo on sat.The sport needs an undisputed champ, so Gaethje v Khabib is the fight to make and must happen, but as we know with UFC they like the numbers, Conor v either of them brings in much higher numbers.
 
Between Conor's disparaging remarks about Khabib's style and his fans' insistence that Khabib is somehow running from him and is a chicken, they look like a mental bunch.

Not that it should happen, but I reckon Gaethje would take him into deep waters like he wouldn't expect. Conor thinks he's dynamic enough to dance around Gaethje, but once he gets cracked himself and realises he's in for a five round war, we'll see who's "fecking dead."
 
UFC president Dana White joined ESPN 1000 Chicago to say he expects the lightweight unification bout between champion Khabib Nurmagomedov and interim champ Justin Gaethje to happen on Fight Island this summer.

 
sammsky1 said:
What was his PPV numbers in his last fight? I think a lot of people have lost interest in him. He is losing relevance, especially now the market is much bigger with all the new viewers Khabib has attracted into the sport.

Also what was PPV numbers like for weekend fights?
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Mate are you serious ? Conor is still by far the biggest attraction in MMA . Khabib brought viewers in because he was fighting Conor it's that simple .
Khabibs style of fighting ensures he doesn't attach new people to MMA he is appreciated by the old school MMA fans but he's never going to be a huge PPV hitter because his fights are boring as hell to watch
 
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