The MMA thread

TheReligion said:
Well if @The Bloody-Nine and @Fortitude are finished dancing together I'll give you my opinion and I think both of you are going too far to either extreme..

Was it a superb fight? No it wasn't. It was a fight both fighters were scared to lose and that prevented them from taking almost any risks during the fight.

Was it a terrible fight? No it wasn't. Some of the movement and footwork on display was very high level. The highest infact. It was a technical chess match and certainly one for the purests.

Personally, and I do train, I wont be rushing to watch it back. In mixed martial arts though it's very much different strokes for different folks. I'm a BJJ guy so can really enjoy a ground tactical battle much more than one on the feet. Don't think there's a right or wrong answer but what I would say is @Fortitude you can come across a little condescending which is a shame as you're clearly knowledgeable.
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Only with people like 9, who take great pleasure in posting as they do.

Petty as that may sound, I see no reason for them to conduct themselves like that.

That fluid movement and situational awareness as well as the lateral switching, it's something to admire not admonish, for me. They both took hits when they had to and the risk was there with every strike. We've seen what Wonderboy can do if he gets an opening and Till proved he's one of the best thinkers and movers in the division by matching that.

There's more to learn in that fight than one with the sloppiness and openings we get in the majority of UFC stand-up. You generally have to go down to Mighty Mouse, T.J., Garbrandt, Cruz and the like to see that level. The art or attempt to hit without being hit is a skill of the utmost quality and I wish we saw more of it instead of generic slugfests and fighters getting clobbered because their stand-up is lacking.
 
TheReligion said:
Well if @The Bloody-Nine and @Fortitude are finished dancing together I'll give you my opinion and I think both of you are going too far to either extreme..

Was it a superb fight? No it wasn't. It was a fight both fighters were scared to lose and that prevented them from taking almost any risks during the fight.

Was it a terrible fight? No it wasn't. Some of the movement and footwork on display was very high level. The highest infact. It was a technical chess match and certainly one for the purests.

Personally, and I do train, I wont be rushing to watch it back. In mixed martial arts though it's very much different strokes for different folks. I'm a BJJ guy so can really enjoy a ground tactical battle much more than one on the feet. Don't think there's a right or wrong answer but what I would say is @Fortitude you can come across a little condescending which is a shame as you're clearly knowledgeable.
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I can agree with this. It wasn't terrible, nor was it superb. It was sufficiently uneventful to where it will go down as one of the many, randomly forgetful fights to headline non PPV UFC cards.
 
I found the first few rounds gripping on first viewing, then the tension rapidly dissipated as it became pretty clear that neither man was going to take any substantial risks to try to win the fight decisively. By the end it pretty much had a sparring session vibe with all the fecking pauses to touch gloves. Interesting fight in the opening stages at least, and the skill level was clearly high, but really, really far removed from being a great fight.
 
Has anyone seen this? Cat Zingano talking about brain damage she suffered in the Nunes fight and how it has affected her and what she has been doing to recover. Pretty intresting watch.

 
Kind of agree with what @Fortitude was saying about how I think that was a fight for people that really appreciate high level striking. There both put on a clinic on defusing dangerous situations and putting each other in dangerous situations. They both kept setting traps as well. They maybe did show a little too much respect to each other but I think they both realised this was the top of the tree in terms of striking and one mistake and it’s over.

I use to look at Jui Jitsu with the same distain people treated this fight but now I’ve trained some in it I understand what is happening a lot more so you can appreciate it a lot more.
 
TheReligion said:
Well if @The Bloody-Nine and @Fortitude are finished dancing together I'll give you my opinion and I think both of you are going too far to either extreme..

Was it a superb fight? No it wasn't. It was a fight both fighters were scared to lose and that prevented them from taking almost any risks during the fight.

Was it a terrible fight? No it wasn't. Some of the movement and footwork on display was very high level. The highest infact. It was a technical chess match and certainly one for the purests.

Personally, and I do train, I wont be rushing to watch it back. In mixed martial arts though it's very much different strokes for different folks. I'm a BJJ guy so can really enjoy a ground tactical battle much more than one on the feet. Don't think there's a right or wrong answer but what I would say is @Fortitude you can come across a little condescending which is a shame as you're clearly knowledgeable.
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Yeah I think I agree with this outlook the most with that fight to be honest.

The fight was alright to watch at the time nothing special for me, it wasn't terrible either. I won't be rushing to watch it back.

I thought Wonderboy edged it personally but fights like that go either way. I hope next time someone misses weight in a big fight the opponent doesn't take it cos Till is probably on course for a title shot now and Wonderboy will never get one again. Seems massively unfair.
 
Oggmonster said:
I thought Wonderboy edged it personally but fights like that go either way. I hope next time someone misses weight in a big fight the opponent doesn't take it cos Till is probably on course for a title shot now and Wonderboy will never get one again. Seems massively unfair.
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Just imagine the disappointment if Wonderboy didn't take the fight against a bigger opponent, in his hometown.
Wonder how many would ask to get a refund on their tickets.
 
Grylte said:
Just imagine the disappointment if Wonderboy didn't take the fight against a bigger opponent, in his hometown.
Wonder how many would ask to get a refund on their tickets.
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Agree it would cause huge problems which is why I kind of hope it happens. Till faces no punishment at all, wonderboy won’t get a chance to reach pinnacle of sport I’m guessing.

Good to see Bisping retires I’m a huge fan helped get me into the sport but doesn’t need to take any more damage.
 
Bojan11 said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/8d54b66b-5232-467c-815c-047979c0fefb

Bisping confirms retirement.
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Good on him. No sense in continuing to take punishment after the problems he's had with his eyes. He's ended up having a stellar career, and he's been entertaining both in the cage and with his shit-talking outside of it. Annoyed the feck out of me by holding the middleweight belt hostage for so long, but you can hardly blame the guy for wanting to cash out as well as possible.
 
Provided one of the greatest quotes in the build up to a fight ;

"Listen, I'll put it like this. If people can walk around - and I don't mean this in a disrespectful way to religious people - and you believe the son of God came down to earth 2,000 years ago, and he killed himself for our sins, and he can walk on water, and there's a God up there looking after ourselves, and if you get on your knees and pray to him that things will change, if you can believe that, then you can believe that I can knock the f--k out of Luke Rockhold two weeks from Saturday."
 
SteveTheRed said:
Provided one of the greatest quotes in the build up to a fight ;

"Listen, I'll put it like this. If people can walk around - and I don't mean this in a disrespectful way to religious people - and you believe the son of God came down to earth 2,000 years ago, and he killed himself for our sins, and he can walk on water, and there's a God up there looking after ourselves, and if you get on your knees and pray to him that things will change, if you can believe that, then you can believe that I can knock the f--k out of Luke Rockhold two weeks from Saturday."
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Gift of the gab :)
 
Looking forward to seeing Emil Meek in the octagon again, after his loss last time.
I don't know much about Fabinski, so feel free to fill me in if you know anything about him.

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Grylte said:
Looking forward to seeing Emil Meek in the octagon again, after his loss last time.
I don't know much about Fabinski, so feel free to fill me in if you know anything about him.

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Never heard of fab but really like Valhalla
 
Dirty Schwein said:
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Great match but feck me Dana gets whatever he wants
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If anyone won here was Yair. Gets his new contract as he wanted.*

Dana had to backtrack all his nonsense.

ps. maybe it was WME who forced his hand so he can stop letting stars go away (after they saw Mousasi with all the headlines last weeks)

ps2. * I'm guessing he got a new contract because Combate Americas (and probably Bellator) offered him more money than UFC...
 
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Tonight, starting in 150 minutes.

Main card

Bantamweight Jimmie Rivera vs. Marlon Moraes
Lightweight Gregor Gillespie vs. Vinc Pichel
Heavyweight Walt Harris vs. Daniel Spitz
Welterweight Jake Ellenberger vs. Ben Saunders
Featherweight Julio Arce vs. Daniel Teymur
Light Heavyweight Gian Villante vs. Sam Alvey

Preliminary card (Fox Sports 1)

Women's Flyweight Sijara Eubanks vs. Lauren Murphy
Lightweight Nik Lentz vs. David Teymur
Welterweight Belal Muhammad vs. Chance Rencountre
Lightweight Desmond Green vs. Gleison Tibau

Preliminary card (UFC Fight Pass)

Women's Strawweight Jessica Aguilar vs. Jodie Esquibel
Bantamweight Johnny Eduardo vs. Nathaniel Wood
Flyweight Jarred Brooks vs. Jose Torres
 
I sure do hope we're treated to the spectacle of lateral movement in some of these fights. Otherwise, I'll have to go back to watching line dancing.
 
The Bloody-Nine said:
I sure do hope we're treated to the spectacle of lateral movement in some of these fights. Otherwise, I'll have to go back to watching line dancing.
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Don't you enjoy the 12 dimensional chess of two fighters shadow fighting with one another for 5 rounds ?
 
George Owen said:
Tonight, starting in 150 minutes.

Main card

Bantamweight Jimmie Rivera vs. Marlon Moraes
Lightweight Gregor Gillespie vs. Vinc Pichel
Heavyweight Walt Harris vs. Daniel Spitz
Welterweight Jake Ellenberger vs. Ben Saunders
Featherweight Julio Arce vs. Daniel Teymur
Light Heavyweight Gian Villante vs. Sam Alvey

Preliminary card (Fox Sports 1)

Women's Flyweight Sijara Eubanks vs. Lauren Murphy
Lightweight Nik Lentz vs. David Teymur
Welterweight Belal Muhammad vs. Chance Rencountre
Lightweight Desmond Green vs. Gleison Tibau

Preliminary card (UFC Fight Pass)

Women's Strawweight Jessica Aguilar vs. Jodie Esquibel
Bantamweight Johnny Eduardo vs. Nathaniel Wood
Flyweight Jarred Brooks vs. Jose Torres
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This has to be one of the worst cards I've ever seen.
 
Raoul said:
Don't you enjoy the 12 dimensional chess of two fighters shadow fighting with one another for 5 rounds ?
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As a fight fan, nothing gets my blood pumping more than chess. As long as it features a lot of lateral movement.
 
Nathaniel "The prospect" Wood next... Cage Warriors champ, lets see what's all this hype is about.

Great victory! nice debut. showed some interesting stuff.
 
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Eduardo really should have finished that in round 1, don't know why he backed off.

Also the first fight :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
I won't link it as Till's team decided to take it down after getting a bit of backlash.
But he released a video of his weight cut which looked pretty horrible, complained he was losing his vision at times aswell.
 
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