Could finally stop calling Undertaker the best 'pure striker' in WWE history then. Whatever the feck that means.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to celebrate rare back-to-back victories for Manchester United! They analyse the late win in the Europa League vs. Rangers and then try and find things to analyse in a pretty dour game vs. Fulham. They also chat about the latest Marcus Rashford news, and look at the latest transfer news.
It is meaningless, but he would be in developmental for years, before he would even get near TV and they reap the benefits.
Lesnar earns $3-5 million a year for limited dates. Plus he gets a % of merchandise and PPV sales.
McGregor just got to $1 million for the Diaz fight.
They'd fast track him, no doubt.
Daft anyway when they've had the likes of Steve Blackman and Ken Shamrock on the books,
McGregor got much more than that. He got a percentage of the ppv buy (on top of the 1 millioj) which is never disclosed.
Rogan reckons over 4-5 millions.
Sounds about right. In the past 12 months (three fights) Conor easily got at least 10 million just from fights.
Would be hilarious if Conor went to Bellator as a fighter and co-promoter.
It would be much better if he and Dana could just sort out their issues and he remain in UFC
I sense that's what will happen although I'm sure things will never be the same again between them. Fighters who challenge White's authority generally don't last very long.
I read all his tweets in his voice and it's annoying me
I've heard the whole story there a few mins ago and all I can say is that Conor is going to earn a lot of people's respect, even those that don't like him for whatever reason will find it hard not to admire the man.
I imagine he doesn't want to promote the fight in the wake of what he saw in Dublin.
McGregor has been sort of embarrassed by Dana removing him from the card and threatening to make Aldo-Edgar for the real belt, so I guess he has to come out and say something
Dana will or at least should be the one embarrassed soon enough now.
Say nothing till you hear more....
G'wan then, send an auld PM.
Thought you were supposed to be a journalist?!
I'm after hearing the whole story from a lad below in a bog in the middle of nowhere.
I am. A business to business journalist working for a supermarket news magazine.
Pass me the rope.
I hope this is worth the build up.
Sounds like Conor is about to sever ties with the UFC...
Sounds like Conor is about to sever ties with the UFC...
Spoilered for length.
https://www.facebook.com/thenotoriousmma/posts/1260441947357435
I am just trying to do my job and fight here.
I am paid to fight. I am not yet paid to promote.
I have become lost in the game of promotion and forgot about the art of fighting.
There comes a time when you need to stop handing out flyers and get back to the damn shop.
50 world tours, 200 press conferences, 1 million interviews, 2 million photo shoots, and at the end of it all I'm left looking down the barrel of a lens, staring defeat in the face, thinking of nothing but my incorrect fight preparation. And the many distractions that led to this.
Nothing else was going through my mind.
It is time to go back and live the life that got me this life.
Sitting in a car on the way to some dump in Conneticut or somewhere, to speak to Tim and Suzie on the nobody gives a feck morning show did not get me this life.
Talking to some lady that deep down doesn't give a feck about what I'm doing, but just wants some sound bites so she can maybe get her little tight ass a nice raise, and I'm cool with that too, I've been giving you all raises. But I need to focus on me now.
I'm coming for my revenge here.
I flew an entire team to Portugal and to Iceland to make my adjustments in preparation and fix my errors I made with the weight and the cardio prep.
With the right adjustments and the right focus, I will finish what I started in that last fight.
I will not do this if I am back on the road handing out flyers again.
I will always play the game and play it better than anybody, but just for this one, where I am coming off a loss, I asked for some leeway where I can just train and focus. I did not shut down all media requests. I simply wanted a slight adjustment.
But it was denied.
There had been 10 million dollars allocated for the promotion of this event is what they told me.
So as a gesture of good will, I went and not only saved that 10 million dollars in promotion money, I then went and tripled it for them.
And all with one tweet.
Keep that 10 mill to promote the other bums that need it. My shows are good.
I must isolate myself now.
I am facing a taller, longer and heavier man. I need to prepare correctly this time.
I can not dance for you this time.
It is time for the other monkeys to dance. I've danced us all the way here.
Nate's little mush head looks good up on that stage these days. Stuff him in front of the camera for it.
He came in with no shit to do that last one. I'd already done press conferences, interviews and shot the ads before RDA pulled out.
Maybe I'll hit Cabo this time and skull some shots pre-fight with no obligation.
I'm doing what I need for me now.
It is time to be selfish with my training again. It is the only way.
I feel the $400million I have generated for the company in my last three events, all inside 8 months, is enough to get me this slight leeway.
I am still ready to go for UFC 200.
I will offer, like I already did, to fly to New York for the big press conference that was scheduled, and then I will go back into training. With no distractions.
If this is not enough or they feel I have not deserved to sit this promotion run out this one time, well then I don't know what to say.
For the record also -
For USADA and for the UFC and my contract stipulations -
I AM NOT RETIRED.
I am paid to fight. I am not yet paid to promote.
I have become lost in the game of promotion and forgot about the art of fighting.
There comes a time when you need to stop handing out flyers and get back to the damn shop.
50 world tours, 200 press conferences, 1 million interviews, 2 million photo shoots, and at the end of it all I'm left looking down the barrel of a lens, staring defeat in the face, thinking of nothing but my incorrect fight preparation. And the many distractions that led to this.
Nothing else was going through my mind.
It is time to go back and live the life that got me this life.
Sitting in a car on the way to some dump in Conneticut or somewhere, to speak to Tim and Suzie on the nobody gives a feck morning show did not get me this life.
Talking to some lady that deep down doesn't give a feck about what I'm doing, but just wants some sound bites so she can maybe get her little tight ass a nice raise, and I'm cool with that too, I've been giving you all raises. But I need to focus on me now.
I'm coming for my revenge here.
I flew an entire team to Portugal and to Iceland to make my adjustments in preparation and fix my errors I made with the weight and the cardio prep.
With the right adjustments and the right focus, I will finish what I started in that last fight.
I will not do this if I am back on the road handing out flyers again.
I will always play the game and play it better than anybody, but just for this one, where I am coming off a loss, I asked for some leeway where I can just train and focus. I did not shut down all media requests. I simply wanted a slight adjustment.
But it was denied.
There had been 10 million dollars allocated for the promotion of this event is what they told me.
So as a gesture of good will, I went and not only saved that 10 million dollars in promotion money, I then went and tripled it for them.
And all with one tweet.
Keep that 10 mill to promote the other bums that need it. My shows are good.
I must isolate myself now.
I am facing a taller, longer and heavier man. I need to prepare correctly this time.
I can not dance for you this time.
It is time for the other monkeys to dance. I've danced us all the way here.
Nate's little mush head looks good up on that stage these days. Stuff him in front of the camera for it.
He came in with no shit to do that last one. I'd already done press conferences, interviews and shot the ads before RDA pulled out.
Maybe I'll hit Cabo this time and skull some shots pre-fight with no obligation.
I'm doing what I need for me now.
It is time to be selfish with my training again. It is the only way.
I feel the $400million I have generated for the company in my last three events, all inside 8 months, is enough to get me this slight leeway.
I am still ready to go for UFC 200.
I will offer, like I already did, to fly to New York for the big press conference that was scheduled, and then I will go back into training. With no distractions.
If this is not enough or they feel I have not deserved to sit this promotion run out this one time, well then I don't know what to say.
For the record also -
For USADA and for the UFC and my contract stipulations -
I AM NOT RETIRED.
https://www.facebook.com/thenotoriousmma/posts/1260441947357435
Basically what Dana said then, he wanted to prepare for the fight rather than do media stuff.
OK over to you Dana
Wonder if he will give in to this?
He really will be Conors biatch then
for the record I think UFC should not give in to his demands
Wonder if he will give in to this?
He really will be Conors biatch then
for the record I think UFC should not give in to his demands
I can see his point, but at the same time, shut up and get on with it. Plenty fighters down the years have had the exact same obligations and they have gone about their business fine.
What demands? It looks reasonable to me. UFC owes him tbh.
Fighting dangerous opponents with days to prepare and adjust. Hes asking not to be treated like a dancing monkey.
Helwani said that McGregor's camp had already asked for the media stuff to be pushed back to May but White refused. I can't see him backing down publicly if he wasn't willing to back down privately.
Most likely UFC200 is off the table but a compromise might be reached for the MSG show.
They haven't the *exact* same obligations though, have they? I'd guess he does more media work than anyone else has. Certainly more than any of his opponents do.
Of course the other side to that is the fact that the media work is a massive part of what has made him such a star. Not like the UFC are the only ones who have benefited from it....
Yeah I'd say a rescheduling is probably the end result. Allows both parties an amenable outcome.
Would he take less money for not fulfilling his promotional activities ?
And take the last 3/4 fights into consideration, he was supposed to fight Aldo who wasn't a native English speaker and who pulled out and had Mendes replace him, it makes sense in this case for Conor to be the mouthpiece of that fight.
Then he did fight Aldo, again not a native English speaker so again it makes sense for Conor to be the main mouth.
Dos Anjos, see above who then pulled out.
Replaced by Diaz who some may say isn't a native English speaker, at the very least he is volatile and most day time networks wouldn't risk putting him on. Let alone that he is a 10 day replacement who many thought was there for a paycheck and to be knocked out, So it makes sense for Conor to do the talking.
The last scenario remains largely the same this time around only this time Conor has to win but he knew what the commitments were going to be when he signed for the fight, as you say in your other post his camp knew Dana wasn't going to budge so why take the fight in the first place ? He did it with this exact situation in mind, he has tried hijacking what is due to be the UFC's biggest show to make a diva powerplay and it has backfired
Will be interesting to see if Conor, being the money generator that he is, can get away with this.
White would crush lesser names for less, but Conor really is the golden goose and it would be foolish to cut off the proverbial nose to spite the face.
Diaz and his camp could hold some sway here, too. Get the hype train running and get the fans into a frenzy, and White will yield, I reckon.
White would crush lesser names for less, but Conor really is the golden goose and it would be foolish to cut off the proverbial nose to spite the face.
Diaz and his camp could hold some sway here, too. Get the hype train running and get the fans into a frenzy, and White will yield, I reckon.
He needs to stop whining. He has become who he is because of the massive push he's had from the media. He loved the media when everyone was on his dick and now he's going in after a loss he doesn't want any of it. Now he can't act like Billy big bollocks it's affecting his preparation all of a sudden. I doubt being dragged around and being treated like a clown when you can't understand or respond in English helped Aldo much either.
Jesus, some of you people really don't like him 
As I have been accused of with the Co92, you're all just bitter 
Anyways, it's pretty much the storyline to Rocky 3. I respect his determination to put things right in the next fight from his perspective and I also admire that he wants to put his craft and preparation before some rubbish press work. But, it's the game now sadly.
As I have been accused of with the Co92, you're all just bitter Anyways, it's pretty much the storyline to Rocky 3. I respect his determination to put things right in the next fight from his perspective and I also admire that he wants to put his craft and preparation before some rubbish press work. But, it's the game now sadly.
Even by not fighting he has more people interested in the fecking thing
I dont blame him tbh.
At the end of the day, what's best for business is McGregor fighting at UFC 200. They should cater to him because without him there won't be half as much exposure. He's a superstar and an active one for that which the UFC don't have many of. Even he just goes to the NY presser, that will crush any other ones without him put together.
"I am not yet paid to promote".
Seems like the obvious compromise. He gets paid specifically for all the extra promotional stuff he does, he promotes.
Seems like the obvious compromise. He gets paid specifically for all the extra promotional stuff he does, he promotes.
Anybody would think that the UFC was all about people getting fights on ability rather than how much money they can make off them.
Its telling that many people feel that Ronda had too many media (and other) commitments to allow her to train properly as well though.
I am personally a little fed up with the UFC basically trying to be MMA - somebody should buy the pride name off them and bring that back
As it is though he has a contract with the UFC, he is 27 and I cant see him retiring yet and there is no viable alternative where he could make anything like as much money... and he still has the potential to earn a lot for the ufc so they will work something out I sure
Its telling that many people feel that Ronda had too many media (and other) commitments to allow her to train properly as well though.
I am personally a little fed up with the UFC basically trying to be MMA - somebody should buy the pride name off them and bring that back
As it is though he has a contract with the UFC, he is 27 and I cant see him retiring yet and there is no viable alternative where he could make anything like as much money... and he still has the potential to earn a lot for the ufc so they will work something out I sure
didnt lesnar used to have a % of PPV sales in america in his contract... stick that on the deal and watch him promote it 24/7