McGregor does have a % of PPV sales in his contract.
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Ballsy move, I like it
Isn't this a bit like Lewis Hamilton with Mclaren? He didn't want to do all the promo shite they wanted him to do and he moved away and won two titles with Mercedes. A little different with McGregor though as he can't switch team, he'd have to move sport possibly.
Can he play in a 2 man midfield?
I love the guy, but I still think UFC should not give into him. He has made the dispute so public he will basically make Dana and the company look like his bitch if they give inJesus, some of you people really don't like himAs I have been accused of with the Co92, you're all just bitter
Anyways, it's pretty much the storyline to Rocky 3. I respect his determination to put things right in the next fight from his perspective and I also admire that he wants to put his craft and preparation before some rubbish press work. But, it's the game now sadly.
I actually agree with a lot of what he had to say in his statement. But way too public
Someone should remind him that its all the promotional stuff that lets him boast of doing 1.5m PPV buys. Without it, he's just another top 5 FW.
He's not the top earner in the UFC because he's the best fighter on the roster.
He's not the top earner in the UFC because he's the best fighter on the roster.
Like him or not his 1 tweet generated more fight than that press conference will. It was on every news outlet even ones it's never normally on.
People saying "He didn't mind the press when he was winning" are right however he lost his last fight. Maybe he thinks he has to change something and pay more attention to his fight rather than promoting. Is that a bad thing? To learn frm errors. People slate Rousey for being ignorant to hers...seems they ccan't win.
People saying "He didn't mind the press when he was winning" are right however he lost his last fight. Maybe he thinks he has to change something and pay more attention to his fight rather than promoting. Is that a bad thing? To learn frm errors. People slate Rousey for being ignorant to hers...seems they ccan't win.
The thing is though, with one single tweet, he has gotten more publicity for the event than any presser could ever do.
In a way, he's already made Dana look quite foolish with his "the press work has to be done"
If I were Mcgregor though, I'd want to make damn well sure I win this time, otherwise his stock will fall massively now
It kind of screams of hypocrisy though, don't you think? He wants to control the monster he himself created.
Calling out White like this is also a risky thing to do.
Conor has so much riding on this fight that it makes sense from that POV, but if he is given concessions, it'll unsettle so many others on the roster.
Can't see the UFC backing down so publicly at this stage. In fact it's a bit ridiculous if they do.
It does yeah I agree but he does speak a lot of sense. He HAS made the UFC a lot of money and deserves some kind of leeway for that I'd suggest as well but I can see why others don't. I also think if people like Rousey want an immediate title shot they will and should get it after pioneering a whole division in that sport and again bringing a lot of money to it.
I dont think Dana is wrong either for what it's worth but they are a bit stuck really. I think it's quite admirable to an extent that McGregor has fecked the stuff off as it does show (or imply) that he knows he was to cocky and made mistakes last time. I don't think he doesn't want to ever do press...he went to the post fighter press conference and did a post fight interview when he lost which a lot of fighters dont do. He just seems to want to train and I can understand that.
Considering how much McGregor has lined Whites pockets since he came on the scene I'd imagine he probably has a right to now ask to at least scale things down on the promotional stuff for a bit. It's not like he's refusing point blank to do any promotional stuff full stop either in fairness. He doesn't really need to do stupid talk shows or photo shoots again either. Few words on twitter now and he has the whole place going around half cracked. I didn't sleep for two nights myself.
If anything good is going to come out of this though, it'll be an end to those that are constantly harping on about McGregor being Dana's little pet and how the UFC is a load of bollix as they'll bend over backwards to accommodate the likes of McGregor and Rousey for the dosh. Few lads gone fierce quite these last few days.
Quite a few people reckon he doesn't want to face the music of being taunted endlessly in promotions by the man who beat him, not that I agree with that line of thinking, but it's an angle some are looking at this from.
When all's said and done, I hope this ends amicably. The ball's back in Dana's court and his rebuttal will have the community on tenterhooks.
But it's a bit like a child being told no by one parent and then going to the other asking for the same thing; to bring all of this - which must've been discussed in private - into the open could leave White fuming as it puts him on the spot and shows a great deal of defiance from yer man. You're damn right it puts to bed them being in seamless cahoots, though. I'm not sure who else in the UFC would do what Conor's just done.
I still think it's the Diaz camp that hold an ace here as they can generate a social media storm if he says he wants the fight to go ahead with Conor being given what he wants.
Conor's played this brilliantly, the ball is in the UFC's court and they pretty much lose no matter what their decision now.
If he's got a lengthy injury it's not showing because he's training and a lot of people have watched him train.
Never go above and beyond for the UFC. You get no thanks from it.
Jones was right to turn down the Chael fight and the reasons why.
Jones was right to turn down the Chael fight and the reasons why.
Feels like a shit Saipan this.
This is like Stone Cold vs. Vince McMahon in real life! I love it
Then he is clearly financially rewarded for promotion
Better promotion = more ppv sales = more money
If he is not happy with the contract he should not have signed it... As for now either renegotiate (less promotion for less %)if the ufc are willing... Or see out this contract then renegotiate the next one
Don't get my hopes up that at UFC200 McGregor gatecrashes with a truck, shoots a Guinness canon at White before sparking him out.This is like Stone Cold vs. Vince McMahon in real life! I love it
I seriously can't wait (as in I don't want to wait) until November for MSG when he defends his FW title against the winner of Frankie/Aldo, so please, Dana, put him back on the fecking card!
It's officially cancelled now
I think UFC made the right call
I think UFC made the right call
I'll wait for the UFC twitter feed to break the news. TMZ Sports ..... eh.
Yeah but was on mmfighting.com reporting them to be the source
TMZ get a lot right in fairness
I just can't agree with McGregor holding a hun to their head like this
Although it does t seem like it at times. He needs them far more than they need him. If he quits he will disappear into obscurity and be on celeb big brother in about 3 years
It's weird that the most exciting thing to happen in MMA in ages is a fight being cancelled.
Is it really exciting ?
Good on the UFC if true. They need to stand firm on their policies and avoid the perception there is one standard for McGregor and one for everyone else.
Erm...no I can't agree with this
It's pretty shit and UFC events this year have been mostly great
I do think the UFC needs to recalibrate its fighters and move away from the WWE reality show circus its become in the McGregor era. Yes, they are making boatloads more money, but the fighting itself hasn't really improved. They are simply becoming more entertainment than MMA, and it needs to be balanced out.
Exciting may be the wrong word, but you know what I mean, there's more hype, news and interest around every word of this than there has been in any fight recently, including McGregors. I couldn't even get away from it at work yesterday.
I agree with your general thought, although McGregor era makes it sound like there wasn't this same crap going on with Chael Sonnen talking his way into title fights he didn't deserve. Granted, the media attention is much more prevalent with McGregor et al, but still, the UFC has made this their problem by rewarding the fighters who can talk shite about their opponents.
Would people have pre ordered the PPV already? I'm guessing there would be a disclaimer that the card is subject to change but I'd imagine a fair few fans would be pissed off that the main event has been changed
I've a flight and accommodation for Vegas booked.
Yeah I can see the other side of the coin mate. I like McGregor but am not one of his fans that's blind to his faults. I genuinely don't think he would be too bothered about facing the music and having the piss taken out of him a bit. He handled himself well post fight and I'm sure he'd have an answer of some kind.
I just think it was a training thing really if both have said it we can't say any other way to be fair. His reason for losing last time was basically the wrong tactics and gassing pretty early so if he thinks training will help that fair enough.
McGregor is a cash cow for UFC really. Again I understand the fact people don't want fighters treated differently but the reality is they will be...he brought a shit load of money and fans to the sport and does deserve credit. Diaz said he was right place right time which is bullshit really. He created a unique image and buzz about himself and milked it for all it's worth. In any other sport "special" talents are usually given different treatment. There's nothing stopping other fighters trying to market themselves, others do it quite successfully as well. People enjoy personalities and McGregor definitely is one.
The fact they are making boatloads of money and the fighting hasn't improved means they won't stop doing it. The fighting definitely hasn't got worse so why change it? Theyre all making more money. There's no point fecking it all up cos people aren't happy. The hardcore fans will keep watching and the more "Casual" (not a fan of the word myself) fans will watch til they get bored...so nothing to lose really.
Because its undignified and turns the sport into a circus. Yes we know they make more money and fame but there's more to MMA than selling out or pandering to the lowest common denominator. Its not just on McGregor - Sonnen, W Silva, Jones et al all need to be knocked down a peg.
It's a business though. What business in their right mind would willingly lose money to make a few people happy? They literally gain nothing. If you don't like it that's fair enough you're entitled to your opinion but surely you can see that from a business point of view there's actually no logic at all in doing it?
Unfortunately for fans that may have been around longer times have changed and the UFC has to adapt to that, I think they have done very well from all angles. Their YouTube channel is pretty brilliant for example at showcasing fighters personalities who may not be as outspoken as McGregor. That's what people want to see now....infact it's what people have wanted to see for years. It's not a WWE thing really. It happened with Ali years ago and people like Sugar Ray Robinson. I doubt they were quoting stuff from stone Cold and The Rock that they hadn't even said yet! I appreciate WWE does it but they definitely werent the first to.
Again I get you don't like it and thats fair enough but the UFC understandably doesn't really benefit from catering to the minority. They have to listen to the majority of fans and if they like stuff like McGregor then it will carry on.
Still feels like a publicity stunt to me, given Conor's mastery of that art.
If it's not, he's really acting like a bitch after losing to a mid-level guy.
If it's not, he's really acting like a bitch after losing to a mid-level guy.
It depends on how far you are willing to go to sell something. When fighters are feigning contempt for one another with scripted remarks, then that's a bit too far in the WWE territory for any legitimate sport to go in. And let's be clear here, its a sport before its a cash cow business.