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I wonder if the UFC are hoping all this drags on with Cyborg and she takes her time to finally cut weight? I mean once Ronda faces her, if she wins that's likely to be it for her right? The longer it goes on the longer they can squeeze out these easy matches that make her look good and still make them decent money.
 
She does have a huge frame in fairness. She dwarfs Edgar, an (admittedly small) former LW champion.

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That said, I read a comment from that Mike Dolce guy that she's actually about 10lbs heavier between fights now than she was a few years back when the Ronda fight was first mooted, so that's hardly a sign of good faith on her part.

Another woman's face who's being deformed via artificial testosterone & PEDs.
 
She is signed with zuffa and already goes through the same drug testing as anyone in the ufc.



That logic doesn't really work. She's the same size as Conor if not bigger, so it's akin to saying he should be able to easily drop down to bantamweight which is obviously ridiculous. They both cut a lot of weight to make 145 as it is. Fact is if she even can make weight she'd have to have a horrible cut as well as losing all ofthe muscle mass which is the advantage she'd need to have any hope. At 135 it's aserious disadvantage for her and she knows it. 140 catchweight is the fairest solution as both fighters need this fight as much as each other at this point. Obviously Ronda doesn't need it for her stardom but she does for her fighting legacy. Important to remember that Rousey was a 145'er who moved down to Bantamweight and fught even higher at judo I believe so it's not as if she'd be vastly disadvantaged by meeting a few pounds up at 140. I think she wins via armbar either way.

Cyborg was suspended just over two years ago for juicing when UFC took over Strikeforce, brought in the women and made it clear there wasn't going to be a 145 division. New drug policy right near then and Cyborg decided to take her release.

Not long later Cyborg was going around shouting off how she was coming down to 135 to retire Ronda. What actually happened was she stuck with 145 while saying Ronda was running scared.

Not long after that, Cyborg signs with the UFC. Dana makes it as clear as daylight that she would need to fight at 135 and win that fight to get a shot at Ronda. Cyborg had no issue with that.

And now here we are. Two or so years on and Cyborg hasn't made a single attempt at getting down despite being the one to constantly shout off about how she's going to retire and ruin Ronda. There is no 145 division in the UFC. Some would argue it makes no sense to have Ronda fight in a catch weight bout against a fighter who will likely never fight in the UFC again after that.

Cyborg's biggest win to date is against Carano while Ronda has been destroying the best female fighters in the world in spectacular fashion. Mark my words that no sensible person will look back if this fight doesn't happen and ever question the fighting legacy of Ronda Rousey. That's a daft statement.

And her striking isn't awful either. It's coming on leaps and bounds which is pretty scary.
 
I wonder if the UFC are hoping all this drags on with Cyborg and she takes her time to finally cut weight? I mean once Ronda faces her, if she wins that's likely to be it for her right? The longer it goes on the longer they can squeeze out these easy matches that make her look good and still make them decent money.

Good point, they may be saving this for her last UFC fight, and just building the tension as much as possible from both sides.
 
Cyborg was suspended just over two years ago for juicing when UFC took over Strikeforce, brought in the women and made it clear there wasn't going to be a 145 division. New drug policy right near then and Cyborg decided to take her release.

Not long later Cyborg was going around shouting off how she was coming down to 135 to retire Ronda. What actually happened was she stuck with 145 while saying Ronda was running scared.

Not long after that, Cyborg signs with the UFC. Dana makes it as clear as daylight that she would need to fight at 135 and win that fight to get a shot at Ronda. Cyborg had no issue with that.

And now here we are. Two or so years on and Cyborg hasn't made a single attempt at getting down despite being the one to constantly shout off about how she's going to retire and ruin Ronda. There is no 145 division in the UFC. Some would argue it makes no sense to have Ronda fight in a catch weight bout against a fighter who will likely never fight in the UFC again after that.

Cyborg's biggest win to date is against Carano while Ronda has been destroying the best female fighters in the world in spectacular fashion. Mark my words that no sensible person will look back if this fight doesn't happen and ever question the fighting legacy of Ronda Rousey. That's a daft statement.

And her striking isn't awful either. It's coming on leaps and bounds which is pretty scary.

Carano is arguably a better win than anyone of Ronda's bar Meisha. The best female fighters in the world besides ronda and cyborg certainly arent at bantamweight either. Rousey's last opponent before correia just said that she was surprised ronda went for the armbar against her. Seriously .I'm not sure how my statement can be daft when there is already a sizeable voice today stating that she is fighting in the canniest division of all time, akin to Royce at UFC1 etc. Obviously the win over Cyborg will help her fighting legacy a huge amount, i'm not sure how that is even debatable.
 
Carano is arguably a better win than anyone of Ronda's bar Meisha. The best female fighters in the world besides ronda and cyborg certainly arent at bantamweight either. Rousey's last opponent before correia just said that she was surprised ronda went for the armbar against her. Seriously .I'm not sure how my statement can be daft when there is already a sizeable voice today stating that she is fighting in the canniest division of all time, akin to Royce at UFC1 etc. Obviously the win over Cyborg will help her fighting legacy a huge amount, i'm not sure how that is even debatable.

Carano better than the likes of Olympic medalist Sara McMann, Zingano etc? Okay mate, okay.
 
Carano better than the likes of Olympic medalist Sara McMann, Zingano etc? Okay mate, okay.

McMann has zero ground game and terrible striking. Zingano just made possibly the worst decision ever in a title fight and decided to run and try to clinch Ronda...why? She was also getting fecked up by Miesha Tate before she made a pretty good comeback.

The women's 115lb division is more talented I reckon.
 
McMann has zero ground game and terrible striking. Zingano just made possibly the worst decision ever in a title fight and decided to run and try to clinch Ronda...why? She was also getting fecked up by Miesha Tate before she made a pretty good comeback.

The women's 115lb division is more talented I reckon.

And both would still beat Carano even if you believe the above. And for the record, I'm a Carano fan.

The idea that Ronda needs to beat Cyborg for the sake of her fighting legacy for me is an absolutely ridiculous statement. Fair enough if you disagree.
 
I find it hard to believe that Ronda doesn't want to fight Cyborg. When you're that good and that dominant, you want to prove you're the best. Mayweather waited around for Pac Man's output to fall and then immediately scheduled the big fight.

I think Ronda is waiting around for such a change in the dynamics, whether that be improving her striking or whatever.
 
Holly Holm is considered one of the best female welterweight boxers of all time so maybe she stands a chance on the feet. Although the fight I saw her in she didn't look impressive at all.
 
The idea that Ronda needs to beat Cyborg for the sake of her fighting legacy for me is an absolutely ridiculous statement. Fair enough if you disagree.

The fact that so many here and many other websites are deliberating about the Cyborg fight highlights that Rousey defeating Cyborg will cement her legacy. Otherwise, these same people (including myself) will always argue that she never beat the other best woman fighter on the planet...
 
And both would still beat Carano even if you believe the above. And for the record, I'm a Carano fan.

The idea that Ronda needs to beat Cyborg for the sake of her fighting legacy for me is an absolutely ridiculous statement. Fair enough if you disagree.
Nah I don't think she has to beat Cyborg, it's up to Cyborg to make the weight.
 
Carano better than the likes of Olympic medalist Sara McMann, Zingano etc? Okay mate, okay.

I said arguably because you can make a case for Mcmann for sure with the Olympic medal , but there's a reason peoplo immediately bring up the medal rather than just her name, because as far as Mcmann has transferred over to mma she is outwrestled by Meisha who was a high school wrestler. I believe her medal was in an inaugral event with a paper thin field by Olympic standards. It's not anywhere comparable to Ronda's bronze in judo for instance which is the deepest combat sport for women. Carano was the precursor to Ronda in some ways, she was the face of wmma at the time and the number one at the time. More flash than substance yes but still surely a bigger win than Zingano overall who I'll repeat claimed the other day that she was surprised ronda tried to armbar her. Anyway moving away from that i'm not sure why you're taking such issue with the legacy statement. I mean she doesn't NEED it like a starving person needs food, but she needs it in the figure of speech sense in that it would help her record massively and be a big help down the road when people bring up the topic of her poor competition in her weightclass,as is already happening in many places today. I've already i think she wins and that I think she would be a dominant champion even if the division was more stacked so I'm far from a Ronda hater or anything I'm just calling it how I see it. The over the top praise can get a bit annoying, such as praising or ignoring her blatently mediocre stand up technique, so it may come across that way in response but I do actually quite like her.
 
Holly Holm is considered one of the best female welterweight boxers of all time so maybe she stands a chance on the feet. Although the fight I saw her in she didn't look impressive at all.
She looked a bit better and more relaxed in her last fight. She's an interesting matchup for Ronda as she moves in and out and is also a big girl for the division. I think she'd make a game of it but ultimately Ronda gets her down and submits her, i'd be hopeful of her making it a few rounds in though. She's another who'd look good on the record and I expect that fight will happen at some point in the not too distant future.
 
Cyborg has also said many times she will get down to 135. Cyborg is also a cheat and if she wasnt so pumped with steroids could probably make weight easily

Ronda isnt ducking anybody


Cyborg had admitted she would have trouble getting down to 135......shes past all her tests since her suspension.....RR has fought at a catch weight before but wont now...why is that? She knows that Cyborg is a serious threat....I guess she just wants to keep padding her record with the shit class she is in. I mean really...Tate for a third time?
 
It seems like the only way RR will take on Cyborg is if Cyborg drains herself to 135, which in my opinion will not be a good fight for the fans. Cyborg doesn't give a shit about the belt so why don't they meet in the middle and catch weight at 140? Because Dana won't stop sucking on RR's clit. Wants her to have as much advantage as possible.

On another note, why hasn't Cat Zingano fought since her loss to Rousey? After the fight she was all eager to go at it again but haven't heard from her since... is she injured?


Zingano and RR should be rematching as the next fight...not this Tate bullshit.
 
Amanda Nunes takes out Sarah McMann. Looks like she could give Rousey a bit of trouble.

She's looked good recently and she's at a good camp which I didn't realise but I think it shows, she's looked like a proper mma fighter in there in her last few. Dispatched the great McMann nicely. Maybe another good win and she'll be ready for a shot.

I'm a big fan of Dariush but I've no idea how he got the nod against Johnson. Seemed like a clear 29-28 to Johnson to me. Main event was pretty entertaining too.
 
She's looked good recently and she's at a good camp which I didn't realise but I think it shows, she's looked like a proper mma fighter in there in her last few. Dispatched the great McMann nicely. Maybe another good win and she'll be ready for a shot.

I'm a big fan of Dariush but I've no idea how he got the nod against Johnson. Seemed like a clear 29-28 to Johnson to me. Main event was pretty entertaining too.

Big fan too but i think it was fair enough. Third round was 100% Dariush + the kicks... i was kinda hoping the judges gave it to him, but also was expecting Johnson to win it because of all the talking and hyping Anik was doing about him, so it was a nice surprise. He needs to be more aggressive and focus on the stand up because he was never gonna take down Johnson or similar level with those poor attempts.

yeah nice event overall... Uriah Hall, Ray Borg (too bad couldn't get the submission) and Dustin Ortiz. good shit. Amanda Nunes was good as well. she can punch! (but would be finished by Ronda in 20 seconds :lol:)

Texeira did great grinding out OSP during the whole fight before that submission.

good fight night... and in 2 weeks another good fight night. (after the UFC in brazil, im glad we are back for the normal mma level we are used to.)

edit. watched the early prelims... good stuff as well! My man Chito Vera from Ecuador fought and won!
 
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Reckon I'll go Vegas for Aldo vs. McGregor, f*ck it.

It'd be a cracking trip I bet. From what I saw and heard of 189, the travelling fans had a crazy time taking over the strip. It'll be expensive for sure but if you plan to go to Vegas at some point and can afford it then what better time I say.
 
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it was a good read.

about cyborg, mayweather, tyson and Fedor

"Sincere opinion about Cyborg: she's just waiting to be offered enough money to get her ass kicked ('cuz she knowsshe'll get her ass kicked). I know for a fact she can make the weight. She consulted with Mike Dolce (my current nutritionist) before I ever started working with him and after consulting with her he said he could get her in "the best shape of her life" at 135. She then started being represented by Tito Ortiz and all talk stopped. The delay is all about money, not her weight. She made 145 pumped full of steroids. She can healthily make 135 without them. Her shows that she headlines lose thousands of dollars, and the majority of the tickets are given away because no one will buy them. She needs me. So pretty much we're waiting for her to realize that she needs to fight me before I retire or she'll never have enough money to retire. I would like me kicking her ass be my retirement fight but whether she steps up or not I'll walk away undefeated and happily ever after regardless.

Do I think I would legit beat Mayweather in a ruleless fight? Floyd is one of the best boxers of all time. He would definitely beat me in a boxing match. I unfortunately don't get into "matches". I fight for a living. In a no rules fight, I believe I can beat anyone on this planet. Boxing is a sweet science with strict rules that I respect very much and aspire every day to improve at. But you said ruleless fight, and that's my honest answer.

I'd be surprised if Mike Tyson returned to the ring but could imagine he would do it in a charity kind of capacity, and if so good for him.

Ring rust is a real serious thing that is hard to overcome and of course I wish Fedor the best but that much of a lay off would affect anyone's performance, which is why I fight so often."
 
Punk and Pendred going at it on twitter.
Don't know how to post tweets but Pendred doing well