The MMA thread

There's a backlash about Punk from a lot of mma fans, a lot on forums I've read refusing to pay for a ppv that he's on. Maybe getting him on stacked cards is the way to go.
Probably, but it kind of defeats the point of signing Punk, if it's to draw in crowds/money.
I'm not a big WWE fan, but Ive read that the main reason he didn't become a major star in wrestling is because he couldn't attract the casual fans, and the fans he did have were internet based who streamed everything so never made WWE all that in terms of revenue.
Pretty much bang on. Inside he head though he already was a major star and expected things he had no justification in getting. Hopefully he has a more realistic understanding of his stature in the UFC.
Can't see him attracting anything close to what Brock achieved personally, hope I'm wrong. The sport needs a bit of buzz about it again
Highly unlikely that you are wrong.
 
good victory (rear naked choke) for John Moraga to put an end to the prelims.

could have lost the fight in the first round but hold on and worked it good-
 
I like Mitrione, without knowing him much though.

From winning just 1 fight in 2013, he finished his 3 fights of 2014 by KO/TKO in the 1st round. Not bad.
 
They had a stat up earlier saying he has the second most KO's in HW history, surprised me that did.

Overeem needed that big time.
 
What a war between Dos Santos and Miocic. Very one dimensional slug fest but entertaining. Really shows how scary Velasquez is in this division, he is an animal.
 
Missed a round or so thanks to dealing with the flu, but from what I saw Miocic should have won. So of course the decision goes the other way
 
what a fight indeed.

Miocic won it imo...

wtf... that was a big bottling from the judges or not?
Missed a round or so thanks to dealing with the flu, but from what I saw Miocic should have won. So of course the decision goes the other way
I gave JDS 3,4,5 but it was a great effort from Miocic. I think alot of these Heavyweights need to work more on their cardio, of course being as big as they are it is easier said than done but if anyone wants to beat Cain then they all need to step up.

JDS vs Overeem needs to definitely be made IMO.
 
I gave JDS Rounds 3,4 and 5 too.

In WSOF Palhares nearly ripped Fitch's leg off. There's the usual talk that he held onto the submission for too long but I don't think he did much wrong this time. He's far from well-rounded but he's freaky good at what he does.
 
JDS is getting in these wars far too much, of course with his style it's bound to happen if he can't knock his opponent out. He doesn't look the same fighter as he did before he had those fights with Cain though.
 
I have just started getting into watching MMA properly.

Been watching Brock Lesnars fights as he is the one I am familar with due to his WWF background. But can any MMA enthusiasts recommend me one of the best fights they can think of for me to watch? The MMA equivalent of the 99 Champions league final. An absolute belter.
 
I have just started getting into watching MMA properly.

Been watching Brock Lesnars fights as he is the one I am familar with due to his WWF background. But can any MMA enthusiasts recommend me one of the best fights they can think of for me to watch? The MMA equivalent of the 99 Champions league final. An absolute belter.

Off the top of my head


Frankie Edgar vs Gray Maynard had two great title fights

Jon Jones vs Gus

Cain vs JDS part 2 and 3

Gilbert Melendez v diego Sanchez

Mark Hunt v Big foot silva

Anderson Silva vs Chael Sonnen part 1
 
I gave JDS Rounds 3,4 and 5 too.

In WSOF Palhares nearly ripped Fitch's leg off. There's the usual talk that he held onto the submission for too long but I don't think he did much wrong this time. He's far from well-rounded but he's freaky good at what he does.
Will look it up. I wanted Fitch to win that

Wonder wil liana go back on his word and bring Palhares back. I actually thought his final straw was a bit harsh too.
 
Almost muted the tele for the first three rounds, Rogan was at his annoying best acting like Miocic was destroying JDS and it was the most one sided fight ever. Even when Dos Santos knocked him down in the third, instead of praising him it was "LOOK AT MIOCIC STILL COMING FORWARD!". Credit to Miocic, surprised me with his performance, awesome war. Had Dos Santos three rounds to two but I think both of the first two rounds were close while Dos Santos won 3, 4 and certainly 5.

Great main card apart from the disappointing performance from Diaz.
 
If it was not for the fear of Nate Diaz joining Bellator he shoud be sacked

Failed to do any media stuff, didn't make weight and got destroyed
 
Almost muted the tele for the first three rounds, Rogan was at his annoying best acting like Miocic was destroying JDS and it was the most one sided fight ever. Even when Dos Santos knocked him down in the third, instead of praising him it was "LOOK AT MIOCIC STILL COMING FORWARD!". Credit to Miocic, surprised me with his performance, awesome war. Had Dos Santos three rounds to two but I think both of the first two rounds were close while Dos Santos won 3, 4 and certainly 5.

Great main card apart from the disappointing performance from Diaz.
:lol: I watched it earlier and it was in Portuguese, thought JDS won it pretty clearly with 3, 4 and 5.

JDS looked bad though, zero improvement after a year off, doesn't kick or knee when he can or should and looked slower than usual. His defence is also maddening, just walks backwards and defends shots with his face. He is my favourite fighter so it's extremely frustrating watching that.
 
Off the top of my head


Frankie Edgar vs Gray Maynard had two great title fights

Jon Jones vs Gus

Cain vs JDS part 2 and 3

Gilbert Melendez v diego Sanchez

Mark Hunt v Big foot silva

Anderson Silva vs Chael Sonnen part 1

Shogun Rua v Dan Henderson I is in my top three fights of all time.

@LawCharltonBest I'd recommend that.

As for last night, my God Dos Anjos is a beast. Never seen someone do that to Diaz. :eek: And Junior's face must be made of scar tissue. He looks like a monster afert every fight nowadays.
 
Joe Rogan does the UFC no favours when he says people like JDS have 'incredible boxing.' If blocking punches with your face, having no head movement, stamina, blocking or lateral movement is 'incredible' he mustn't have much respect for the art of pugilism.

It annoys me to no end how they try to talk up their fighters when it's unwarranted. All it does is harm their brand, ironically.

I don't know what JDS and his trainers do in camp, but the guy never improves or learns from his mistakes, and he's always gassed within eight minutes, if that.

Apart from Cain, the HW division really lets the UFC down. Most of them don't look like they train and rely purely on brute force and 1-punch KO power as opposed to the rounded, skilled fighter that Cain is.

Jones talked about fighting Cain eventually at HW. If Jones can take his speed with him and has the power needed to fend off Cain's mauling style, it'll be the spectacle that division needs. As is, it's a joke of a division relative to the rest.
 
I think Cain is letting the heavyweight division down. He needs to be more active.

Having an unbeatable monster defending the belt 2-3 times (taking on all comers) a year would be great
 
Have to hope he's the same fighter with the same mobility when he finally gets back in the octagon after so long laid off.
 
Joe Rogan does the UFC no favours when he says people like JDS have 'incredible boxing.' If blocking punches with your face, having no head movement, stamina, blocking or lateral movement is 'incredible' he mustn't have much respect for the art of pugilism.

It annoys me to no end how they try to talk up their fighters when it's unwarranted. All it does is harm their brand, ironically.

I don't know what JDS and his trainers do in camp, but the guy never improves or learns from his mistakes, and he's always gassed within eight minutes, if that.

Apart from Cain, the HW division really lets the UFC down. Most of them don't look like they train and rely purely on brute force and 1-punch KO power as opposed to the rounded, skilled fighter that Cain is.

Jones talked about fighting Cain eventually at HW. If Jones can take his speed with him and has the power needed to fend off Cain's mauling style, it'll be the spectacle that division needs. As is, it's a joke of a division relative to the rest.

I think that's gonna happen in 3 years time. Jones is still quite young and getting bigger. By the time he is 30, his body might demand him to step up to the HW to face a 35yo Cain, on his prime. At least that's my hope. Until then, or some new phenomenon fighter rises, the HW division will be easily dominated by Cain (unless he get beaten by a lucky one punch KO, but i doubt that will happen again).

and yes, i think JDS is overrated as it is. On his side is time... he is still young for a HW and can work on getting better, but he just looks the same every time as you say. Always relying on that 1-punch KO.
 
I think that's gonna happen in 3 years time. Jones is still quite young and getting bigger. By the time he is 30, his body might demand him to step up to the HW to face a 35yo Cain, on his prime. At least that's my hope. Until then, or some new phenomenon fighter rises, the HW division will be easily dominated by Cain (unless he get beaten by a lucky one punch KO, but i doubt that will happen again).

and yes, i think JDS is overrated as it is. On his side is time... he is still young for a HW and can work on getting better, but he just looks the same every time as you say. Always relying on that 1-punch KO.
Yes, if Cain's body holds up, I think it'll happen also, but I'd think we're looking at around 18 months - 2 years, tops.

I tivo'd Saturday's event and the overspill had the program with UFC interviews with Cormier and Jones. In Jones' interview, he talked about his plans and what he believes it'll take to be considered the greatest MMA fighter of all time. He said he wants to be out of the game by his mid-30's and that he wants to up his fight rate to 3 - 4 per year. If he does go up to three fights a year, there won't be much else for him to do at LW outside of rematches with Gus and Cormier (assuming he wins their first contest in January) unless some amazing new blood emerges during the interim, and from there, assuming he beats them both again, I'd think he'd then be looking to take the time out to get his weight up sensibly and begin his HW journey.

Jones seems like the kind of clued up fella who will want to fight Cain in his prime, which 35 wouldn't be, so I think that shortens the duration, also. He has a clear path he's following by the sound of his interview, and I think that can only hasten his move to HW - unless he suffers an upset and is beaten beforehand, which makes him re-valuate and stay where he is.

Cain being best buds with Cormier, it'll be interesting to hear his opinions on Jones, which he'll probably offer after his mate's match.
 
Decent interview with McGregor here - talks about his upcoming fights, the UFC media circus and CM Punk joining the outfit. I think it get's lost sometimes with the media constantly looking for a controversial soundbite just how hard this guy works on his game

 
I'm hyped for that Cormier v Jones fight on Jan 3rd. Just hope it's as even as it looks, and won't be over in a round. Cormier has seemed like he really wants it, but I think Jones is better fighter. Unless he does a mistake or underestimates Cormier, I think he'll win it. They'll probably end up in a rematch at some point regardless of the outcome though. The 20-1-0 (Jones) and 15-0-0 (Cormier) fight records are impressive though. Jones' loss was a R1 DQ v Matt Hamill in 2009.

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85" vs 73" reach advantage for Jones as well.

Im all in for DC on this one. Hopefully he became the new champ on a nice fight, but if he manages to finish Jones in the first round after toying with him a little, i wouldn't mind. hehe

Cormier is easily the strongest man Jones has ever faced, while DC have toyed with much bigger guys than him. He will out-muscle him and close the gap quickly, taking away half of Jones weapons.

*wishful thinking.
 
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JDS looked bad though, zero improvement after a year off, doesn't kick or knee when he can or should and looked slower than usual. His defence is also maddening, just walks backwards and defends shots with his face. He is my favourite fighter so it's extremely frustrating watching that.

Defends shots with his face is absolutely spot on :lol:

Frustrating a feck though, completely agree with you there, I really like Dos Santos and it's so irritating to see him taking needless shots by continually dropping his hands. His defensive boxing is awful.
 
You can't underestimate a reach advantage like that. Presumably Jones gameplan will be to stick on the outside and pepper him with shots.

We all want to know if DC can take him down though. If he can't I don't see how else he can win (lucky shot accepted).
 
I have just started getting into watching MMA properly.

Been watching Brock Lesnars fights as he is the one I am familar with due to his WWF background. But can any MMA enthusiasts recommend me one of the best fights they can think of for me to watch? The MMA equivalent of the 99 Champions league final. An absolute belter.

Gilbert Melendez v Diego Sanchez
Shogun Rua v Dan Henderson
Lyoto Machida v Rashad Evans
Forrest Griffin v Stephan Bonnar (TUF1)
 
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UFC Fight Night 58: Machida vs. Dollaway

Preliminary card (UFC Fight Pass)

Welterweight Marcio Alexandre vs. Tim Means
Middleweight Vitor Miranda vs. Jake Collier

Preliminary card (Fox Sports 1)
Light Heavyweight Marcos Rogerio de Lima vs. Igor Pokrajac
Middleweight Daniel Sarafian vs. Dan Miller
Featherweight Darren Elkins vs. Hacran Dias
Bantamweight Leandro Issa vs. Yuta Sasaki

Main Card (Fox Sports 1)
Middleweight Lyoto Machida vs. C.B. Dollaway
Bantamweight Renan Barao vs. Mitch Gagnon
Light Heavyweight Antonio Carlos Júnior vs. Patrick Cummins
Lightweight Elias Silverio vs. Rashid Magomedov
Welterweight Erick Silva vs. Mike Rhodes
Featherweight Rony Jason vs. Tom Niinimäki
 
I have just started getting into watching MMA properly.

Been watching Brock Lesnars fights as he is the one I am familar with due to his WWF background. But can any MMA enthusiasts recommend me one of the best fights they can think of for me to watch? The MMA equivalent of the 99 Champions league final. An absolute belter.
Watch the first ever TUF finale between Forrest Griffin and Stephane Bonnar. It's arguably the best fight ever.